Lash
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Yeah, teenagers are notoriously unselfishJust don't understand a player being this selfish at his age.
Yeah, teenagers are notoriously unselfishJust don't understand a player being this selfish at his age.
Any team would have him in their squad. He might not be a” 2nd Ronaldo “ but undoubtedly a talented player.I don’t rate him and that’s not based on this match alone. The guy has been praised to high heavens like he’s the second coming of Ronaldo. In reality he neither has the technical ability nor has the iq. On top of that he’s selfish as hell.
At 19 Ronaldo's technical ability was 50 stepovers everytime he got the ballCome on, Ronaldo's technical ability was always lightyears ahead of Garnacho. Making that comparison does no favours to him.
Nah, his end product was abysmal today. It's why a lot of people stopped moving as they had no idea what he was going to do. Hes only 19, so I'm happy he's creating the chances against one of the best teams in the league, but he has to be better if we are to rely on him in the future.In all honesty, if any, and I mean any winger had one of our fullbacks on toast like Garnacho did White, we would be either singing his praises or bashing our own fullback. His end product was meh, but a couple of his crosses were quite good.
The thing with teenagers at United, though, is that they become more selfish as they get older. He was less selfish last season. Rashford wasn't as selfish as a teenager as he is now, Greenwood also got worse in his 2nd year.Yeah, teenagers are notoriously unselfish
He didn’t use to be this selfish did he. I remember when he first came into the team he would try and lay of team mates. Maybe it’s the team spirit being so bad that no one gets along with each otherJust don't understand a player being this selfish at his age.
I think there were a lot of good opportunities to shoot, he just couldn't hit a barn door or stay on his feet today. His crossing wasn't too bad, but naive to hang it up so often with a keeper that's bread and butter is claiming crosses.The thing with teenagers at United, though, is that they become more selfish as they get older. He was less selfish last season. Rashford wasn't as selfish as a teenager as he is now, Greenwood also got worse in his 2nd year.
Rashford tried to emulate Ronaldo's game without having the tools to do so, and now I see Garnacho doing the same. 7 shots today and I think only once taking a shot was the right decision. Tbf, this is mostly on the managers and the lack of respected players in the dressing room.
What are you talking about with his speed? He is lightning quick.At the moment he's just a tad bit below the speed and strength required to be a dead cert superstar player. If over the next couple years he can unlock just a little bit more speed and strength he will be a very good player. Does also need to work on his finishing.
No discipline and no one at the club disciplining him.Just don't understand a player being this selfish at his age.
I did not say Garnacho possess the same talent as Ronaldo nor do I think that and I also do not sit here and try to forecast where Garnacho will be in 10 years time. Anything can happen to a player, I remember Deli Ali was once the young king of England, now he cannot get into any side he plays for, only 26.If you think Garnacho possesses the same talent and ability as young Ronaldo then you have a dodgy judgement.
I completely agree with this. We haven't got the right setup or circumstances to get the most out of these players. We desperately need to improve on that front.Ronaldo was extremely fortunate to be working alongside proven experienced winners and a manager who was exceptional at improving and handling young players.
Garnacho, like Mainoo and Hojlund, doesn't have that.
I would be alot less harsh on him, personally.
He's quick but not blistering quick e.g. Rasford quick. He also is not a great dribbler, although he has the potential to be. That combined with his lack of strength is why at this moment there are fullbacks that he struggles to beat. However, he is young. This is why im still on the fence of whether he will just be a decent/good prem winger i.e. someone who would be on the bench for us if we had a title challenging team or whether if he got a little bit stronger and quicker that he could potentially be a world class winger. Adding to that he also needs to improve his finishing. However none of those are givens. Its not a given that he is going to get stronger, quicker and better at finishing.What are you talking about with his speed? He is lightning quick.
I guess he wants to be the next Ronaldo. And he'll die trying. So he either makes it or fails, but he'll never be a passer.Just don't understand a player being this selfish at his age.
Important to remember the teams they played in and the team this guy is playing in. When Ronaldo and Rooney joined we had ruud up front, Giggs and scholes in the team. We were one of the best teams in England, probably Europe. The team garnacho plays in is crap, that has a huge impact on absolutely everything he does. He has too much responsibility and is playing with shit players. I feel sorry for him.At times it was like he played for Arsenal. Still way too young to carry the attack for a club like Manchester United. He is no Rooney or Ronaldo at best we are probably looking at Nani level of talent.
I agree it affects to certain extent but more importantly he is not on the same level of talent and that is nothing to be ashamed of, we need to be realistic because we have a top talent at hand. We are where we are because of the Casemiros, Rashfords, Antonys and similar high profile names/transfers, the kids are alright, but they are just kids after all.Important to remember the teams they played in and the team this guy is playing in. When Ronaldo and Rooney joined we had ruud up front, Giggs and scholes in the team. We were one of the best teams in England, probably Europe. The team garnacho plays in is crap, that has a huge impact on absolutely everything he does. He has too much responsibility and is playing with shit players. I feel sorry for him.
Yea, the last month or so he has been very erratic, playing with blinders while the lack of sharpness I think shows in the finishing.I think he's had a stellar first 2/3s of the season, but lately he's faded away and looks physically weak out there.
Maybe just exhaustion from the season and having to play every match.
Definitely a bright spot for us, I just hope that little downwards trend doesn't continue next season and he'll be back at his absolute best again.
The most decorated player out there couldn't be bothered to move quickly to push the offside line. The captain for the day was invisible for most of the game.The thing is who is there in the locker room to hold him accountable? To show him the standards that are expected. He's looking around at a a bunch of chancers who are lucky to be starting for us themselves. As bad as he's been for a couple months he's still probably in our top 5 best performers of the season.
forget the crap coach for a second, our locker room is full of players who play for themselves and their stats. This is the most worrying thing for me, that he's going to follow their example and not fulfil his potential.
No, you don’t understand my point. Neither I am writing him off nor saying he’s trash. I just don’t rate the him that highly. The comparisons with Ronaldo in any shape or form don’t make sense to me. Ronaldo technical ability combined with his work ethic on the training pitch always gonna make him elite. To me, Garnacho is technically deficient to be an elite player. But that’s just my opinion of course.I did not say Garnacho possess the same talent as Ronaldo nor do I think that and I also do not sit here and try to forecast where Garnacho will be in 10 years time. Anything can happen to a player, I remember Deli Ali was once the young king of England, now he cannot get into any side he plays for, only 26.
Regarding Garnacho & Ronaldo, I said that people wrote off Ronaldo at a very young age. He made mistakes and was not fluent, he frustrated a lot of the fan base. He was basically young and people did not want to see how he grew. No one expected what came after but his talent was there and obvious.
I'm simply reminding you, it's naive to write off a player, who is 19 years old, has about 15 years left in the game, played 2 professional seasons and has probably been the most consistent player we have had in the worst season Man United have had in a very very long time.