Any team would have him in their squad. He might not be a” 2nd Ronaldo “ but undoubtedly a talented player.
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Quality player. 19 years old.
At 19 Ronaldo's technical ability was 50 stepovers everytime he got the ball
Nah, his end product was abysmal today. It's why a lot of people stopped moving as they had no idea what he was going to do. Hes only 19, so I'm happy he's creating the chances against one of the best teams in the league, but he has to be better if we are to rely on him in the future.
Yeah, teenagers are notoriously unselfish
The thing with teenagers at United, though, is that they become more selfish as they get older. He was less selfish last season. Rashford wasn't as selfish as a teenager as he is now, Greenwood also got worse in his 2nd year.
Rashford tried to emulate Ronaldo's game without having the tools to do so, and now I see Garnacho doing the same. 7 shots today and I think only once taking a shot was the right decision. Tbf, this is mostly on the managers and the lack of respected players in the dressing room.
He’s 19, let’s just support him for now.
He didn’t use to be this selfish did he. I remember when he first came into the team he would try and lay of team mates. Maybe it’s the team spirit being so bad that no one gets along with each other
I think there were a lot of good opportunities to shoot, he just couldn't hit a barn door or stay on his feet today. His crossing wasn't too bad, but naive to hang it up so often with a keeper that's bread and butter is claiming crosses.
He'll be fine, this was just a bad day. A very good example of how a small change in decision making can be all the difference.
At the moment he's just a tad bit below the speed and strength required to be a dead cert superstar player. If over the next couple years he can unlock just a little bit more speed and strength he will be a very good player. Does also need to work on his finishing.
You can tell he just isn't being coached properly, he's making the same mistakes game after game. He barely looks to link up play and instead chooses to shoot more often than not, often missing the target.
You can't fault his work ethic but he's still making the same mistakes.
You can't fault his work ethic but he's still making the same mistakes.
I’ve always felt he will be a good member of the squad going forward but the way some try to class him as an elite talent has never made sense to me.
He’s a talent somewhere in the middle of Rashford and Walcott.
Baffling how some think we can go into next season with him as a guaranteed starter.
He’s a talent somewhere in the middle of Rashford and Walcott.
Baffling how some think we can go into next season with him as a guaranteed starter.
What are you talking about with his speed? He is lightning quick.
No discipline and no one at the club disciplining him.
What other young allegedly future world class players (he isn't, but people like to say he is...) are allowed to do what they want on the field and play Fifa style running into 2 and 3 defenders and taking stupid shots all the time, game after game?
Just breeding horrible habits in him. He has very good dribbling skills and there is no attempts being made to make him use it in an intelligent way.
Compared to last year, he has developed so much so significantly! In this rate, within two years, he will have a truly breakout, elite season coming up. Please stay injury free , continue the development and learning. People might be frustrated in end product, but he is on the right path to get there.
I did not say Garnacho possess the same talent as Ronaldo nor do I think that and I also do not sit here and try to forecast where Garnacho will be in 10 years time. Anything can happen to a player, I remember Deli Ali was once the young king of England, now he cannot get into any side he plays for, only 26.
Regarding Garnacho & Ronaldo, I said that people wrote off Ronaldo at a very young age. He made mistakes and was not fluent, he frustrated a lot of the fan base. He was basically young and people did not want to see how he grew. No one expected what came after but his talent was there and obvious.
I'm simply reminding you, it's naive to write off a player, who is 19 years old, has about 15 years left in the game, played 2 professional seasons and has probably been the most consistent player we have had in the worst season Man United have had in a very very long time.
Ronaldo was extremely fortunate to be working alongside proven experienced winners and a manager who was exceptional at improving and handling young players.
Garnacho, like Mainoo and Hojlund, doesn't have that.
I would be alot less harsh on him, personally.
Garnacho, like Mainoo and Hojlund, doesn't have that.
I would be alot less harsh on him, personally.
I completely agree with this. We haven't got the right setup or circumstances to get the most out of these players. We desperately need to improve on that front.
He really needs to focus on decision making and end product. He constantly shoots poorly and is not seeing passes, costing the team good chances week in week out. People focus on him now, because he was exeptionally poor this week, but he has probably had a good 2 months and a pretty poor rest of the season.
Thing is... The rest of our wingers were even worse, and he's one of the youngest, most promising one of them. In the United of old, he would've been in rotation and he could learn and sit some games out every now and then..
Thing is... The rest of our wingers were even worse, and he's one of the youngest, most promising one of them. In the United of old, he would've been in rotation and he could learn and sit some games out every now and then..
He's quick but not blistering quick e.g. Rasford quick. He also is not a great dribbler, although he has the potential to be. That combined with his lack of strength is why at this moment there are fullbacks that he struggles to beat. However, he is young. This is why im still on the fence of whether he will just be a decent/good prem winger i.e. someone who would be on the bench for us if we had a title challenging team or whether if he got a little bit stronger and quicker that he could potentially be a world class winger. Adding to that he also needs to improve his finishing. However none of those are givens. Its not a given that he is going to get stronger, quicker and better at finishing.
I guess he wants to be the next Ronaldo. And he'll die trying. So he either makes it or fails, but he'll never be a passer.
Take it or leave it I guess.
I'd still give him 1 or 2 seasons.
He has been absolutely shocking since the Chelsea match.
he is 19, playing in a dysfunctional team, being asked to play a leading role in the attacking 3, I don't like his inconsistent decision making and he certainly needs to improve, but I like his courage to take on his defender, he had White on toast and went past him at least 3-4 times if not more, he works his socks off and I am very hopeful with him.
I'm more concerned that we run him into the ground, than I am about his recent performances. This team makes everyone worse, and he is only 19. Really it's extraordinary that he has taken such a leading role in the team.
His end product would be so much better if he would just pick and choose his moments. He needs to improve his composure too, but in all honesty id probably be the same as him right now. What has he got to lose? Everyone is playing horrendous and he's pretty much our best attacker, why would i pass to Dalot only for him to shoot from 40 yards away, or cross to one person in the box whose probably going to get out muscled. His options aren't worth it, and he doesn't have the system to play to where he can show his discipline to seeing out team instructions, which he has shown examples of previously. His potential is really high, i just hope we don't waste it - Luke Shaw style.
At times it was like he played for Arsenal. Still way too young to carry the attack for a club like Manchester United. He is no Rooney or Ronaldo at best we are probably looking at Nani level of talent.
The thing is who is there in the locker room to hold him accountable? To show him the standards that are expected. He's looking around at a a bunch of chancers who are lucky to be starting for us themselves. As bad as he's been for a couple months he's still probably in our top 5 best performers of the season.
forget the crap coach for a second, our locker room is full of players who play for themselves and their stats. This is the most worrying thing for me, that he's going to follow their example and not fulfil his potential.
forget the crap coach for a second, our locker room is full of players who play for themselves and their stats. This is the most worrying thing for me, that he's going to follow their example and not fulfil his potential.
He’s 19 and playing as a one man attack.
Antony offers feck all. Hojlund offers feck all.
It’s ridiculous to put this much pressure on him.
Antony offers feck all. Hojlund offers feck all.
It’s ridiculous to put this much pressure on him.
Guy who has far too much pressure on his shoulders.
Ten Hag's favouritism of certain players and complete lack of man management of others is another string to his bow of ineptitude.
Ten Hag's favouritism of certain players and complete lack of man management of others is another string to his bow of ineptitude.
He's still really raw.
Important to remember the teams they played in and the team this guy is playing in. When Ronaldo and Rooney joined we had ruud up front, Giggs and scholes in the team. We were one of the best teams in England, probably Europe. The team garnacho plays in is crap, that has a huge impact on absolutely everything he does. He has too much responsibility and is playing with shit players. I feel sorry for him.
One point toward the end he was dribbling and just collapsed and the ball went out for a GK, he looks absolutely knackered on his feet, he clearly needs a rest as his performances are suffering.
He for me at the moment is too eager, too direct and needs to use his teammates more but again today he just looks like he had too much attacking burden on a 19 year old.
He for me at the moment is too eager, too direct and needs to use his teammates more but again today he just looks like he had too much attacking burden on a 19 year old.
I see enough in him to think that he will have a very good career here. Sure, he's unlikely to reach the level of Giggs/Ronaldo, but he won't be far behind. The kid is 19 (and whilst Bruno is unavailiable) is carrying the attack by himself.
He's brave, works hard, has a good engine and never gives up. His crossing/shooting/decision-making ability are kinks that can be ironed out in training and will improve over time.
Cut him some slack
He's brave, works hard, has a good engine and never gives up. His crossing/shooting/decision-making ability are kinks that can be ironed out in training and will improve over time.
Cut him some slack
I agree it affects to certain extent but more importantly he is not on the same level of talent and that is nothing to be ashamed of, we need to be realistic because we have a top talent at hand. We are where we are because of the Casemiros, Rashfords, Antonys and similar high profile names/transfers, the kids are alright, but they are just kids after all.
Vinicius Jr. would look terrible having to link up with Hojlund and Antony.
I think he's had a stellar first 2/3s of the season, but lately he's faded away and looks physically weak out there.
Maybe just exhaustion from the season and having to play every match.
Definitely a bright spot for us, I just hope that little downwards trend doesn't continue next season and he'll be back at his absolute best again.
Maybe just exhaustion from the season and having to play every match.
Definitely a bright spot for us, I just hope that little downwards trend doesn't continue next season and he'll be back at his absolute best again.
Yea, the last month or so he has been very erratic, playing with blinders while the lack of sharpness I think shows in the finishing.
Still, his application and guts is such that he carries his weight in attack, but I would have wished to see him rotated more lately. For his own develoment as much as for the team. But what am I saying, who should he rotate with?
Before this season, a responsible first eleven front six should look like this:
Casemiro Eriksen/Mount
Sancho Bruno Rashford
Martial
And the likes of Garnacho, Højlund, Antony and Mainoo should be regularily included for playing time and development. Maybe even Amad.
Disclaimer: When I say ‘should’ it implies that either the mentioned six starters should be at or around their highest carreer level and fit. If not, they should have been replaced by players of the same quality, not by making Garnacho, Højlund, Mainoo, Antony into regular first choices. They are not ready for that in terms of the expectations people have for a Man Utd regular.
The most decorated player out there couldn't be bothered to move quickly to push the offside line. The captain for the day was invisible for most of the game.
It's a real problem for us. We've got the likes of Garnacho and Mainoo who have potential but some of the more senior experienced players in the squad are crocks, unprofessional or both.
The boy needs a physical and mental break.
No, you don’t understand my point. Neither I am writing him off nor saying he’s trash. I just don’t rate the him that highly. The comparisons with Ronaldo in any shape or form don’t make sense to me. Ronaldo technical ability combined with his work ethic on the training pitch always gonna make him elite. To me, Garnacho is technically deficient to be an elite player. But that’s just my opinion of course.
Agreed.
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