Adnan Januzaj

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LR7 said:
I saw a video of the interview with the Belgium coach on Sky and he definitely said that Januzaj is staying at United.
Fingers crossed we get the contract sorted ASAP. I believe we will.

Those quotes above from Januzaj are quite old I think, but hopefully unlikely that he will have deviated too far from that opinion.
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Do you have a link to the interview? His quotes that I've seen in all Belgian media never mention Manchester United. According to what I read, Wilmots never even had direct contact with Januzaj and it was actually the club who told him that Januzaj is not interested at the moment.

What Januzaj's quotes are concerned, according to the Belgian media, they originate from a recent club magazine issue. Anyone know which or from when?
 
Just an observation on money. We don't know what the agent is asking for or what the player wants. It's almost certainly more complicated than a straight £x for 4 years or whatever. They might be looking at bonuses based on playing time or success, image rights, annual increments, and yes, even at the release clause concept.

However just to give an idea of what wages it's believed Real Madrid paid to recruit a couple of 18 year olds with a promising first season behind them in 2010 and 2011. In their case they had to pay a transfer fee as well.
Sergio Canales - €1.2m net (about £2m before tax, £40k/week) - he's now with Valencia.
Raphael Varane - €1m net (about £1.7m before tax, £35k/week) - he's now had a pay rise.

I'm not quoting Madrid as a role model, just as another big club.
 
He's tailor made for United too. He would be tailor made for a lot of teams. However, the press will have a field day until he's signed. Most people thought Nani was off and at times Vidic and at times Evra....

I wouldn't worry about it. However, we should not let players enter into their final year full stop.
 
The barca link is scary. The chance to play with messi Iniesta and co must be hard for any player to turn down right now.

On the other hand, they're already so strong and have many great technical players so he might struggle for opportunities there
 
Striker10 said:
He's tailor made for United too. He would be tailor made for a lot of teams. However, the press will have a field day until he's signed
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But Barca are pretty picky about who they go for, which leads me to think they'll make a huge push for him. Especially since Xavi and Iniesta will soon need replacing. Still, he's turned them down in favour of us before.
 
I dont want to trawl through the last pages. Can anyone give a short summary on why a young player whos been given loads of responsibility and play time for one of the top clubs in the world is likely to leave for other pastures?

Januzaj has been a breath of fresh air this season, the biggest positive in a pretty low season. Would hate it if we cant keep him.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
The barca link is scary. The chance to play with messi Iniesta and co must be hard for any player to turn down right now.

On the other hand, they're already so strong and have many great technical players so he might struggle for opportunities there
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That's what we said about Thiago when Bayern came into the frame.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
The barca link is scary. The chance to play with messi Iniesta and co must be hard for any player to turn down right now.

On the other hand, they're already so strong and have many great technical players so he might struggle for opportunities there
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I don't think it's that enticing personally. He would be second fiddle to those guys. He could quite easily replicate that at United at some point. He could be that level of influence on our play, a player that always makes himself available and who isn't scared on the ball.

We go on about these clubs, but the fact is we've produced quality players. We've bought in quality too. We shouldn't feel inferior.
 
It's a Daily Mail article. And it says that Januzaj feels unappreciated. Really?! He'll sign, don't worry. He is breaking into the first team here and will be behind several players in the Barcelona squad.
 
I've come to learn recently that these players don't seem to put much value in who will be ahead of them in the pecking order when choosing a new club. Probably because they're so confident in their own ability and are having their ego stroked by the club club officials anyway.

I hope we just get this sorted soon.
 
Talking about Barcelona or Real Madrid is like saying the bogey man is after him. It's a scary headline for United fans.

He's 18, he's looking for his first proper professional job. He needs stability and playing time. He's not a 23/4/5 year old looking for his big career defining move or a 28/29 year looking for his last big deal. He'd like one day be a #10? Barca's got one.
 
jojojo said:
Talking about Barcelona or Real Madrid is like saying the bogey man is after him. It's a scary headline for United fans.

He's 18, he's looking for his first proper professional job. He needs stability and playing time. He's not a 23/4/5 year old looking for his big career defining move or a 28/29 year looking for his last big deal. He'd like one day be a #10? Barca's got one.
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I hope you're right but we've applied that logic to quite a few players recently and ended up wrong. Most don't seem too phased by having to fight for their place.
 
God roll on Friday then the papers can concentrate on the England game.
 
I think he'll sign on with us for now. But my gut feel tells me it might be tricky holding on to him if he makes it big.

If he ever wants to go, it should be on our terms. So we should keep him nicely and happily tied up under contract at all times.
 
He feels so unappreciated that he's turned down international football because " United is the most important thing right now".

If it made bigger headlines that he wanted to stay, they'd have used those quotes accordingly.
 
So Daily Fail says something random about a player transfer. Why does it even deserve mention? Those morons might run a news just beside it saying Januzaj will definitely sign contract at United for so and so money.
 
fatboy said:
I think he'll sign on with us for now. But my gut feel tells me it might be tricky holding on to him if he makes it big.

If he ever wants to go, it should be on our terms. So we should keep him nicely and happily tied up under contract at all times.
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I'm really sick of this inferiority complex.

Us, along with Barca and Madrid are the biggest clubs in the world. We've helped develop him and given him playing time. There's nothing to suggest he's looking to leave. Just hysteria as he's in his final year. He's only recently qualified for a professional contract, the last one we offered him could be no longer than 3 years. The Pogba situation really messed up a lot of fans.
 
b82REZ said:
I'm really sick of this inferiority complex.

Us, along with Barca and Madrid are the biggest clubs in the world. We've helped develop him and given him playing time. There's nothing to suggest he's looking to leave. Just hysteria as he's in his final year. He's only recently qualified for a professional contract, the last one we offered him could be no longer than 3 years. The Pogba situation really messed up a lot of fans.
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That may be true but both are currently far more attractive propositions to players than us, as well as Bayern, as we found out with Thiago this summer. We may match them in fanbase and money but we do not have the same lure for players as Barca or especially Real.
 
Cina said:
That may be true but both are currently far more attractive propositions to players than us, as well as Bayern, as we found out with Thiago this summer. We may match them in fanbase and money but we do not have the same lure for players as Barca or especially Real.
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For South Americans and other Spainish players maybe. But for British, Eastern European etc I believe we are as attractive.

The Thiago example is bad, he was clearly only ever interested in following Pep. Had Pep been made Norwich manager Thiago would have likely followed.
 
b82REZ said:
For South Americans and other Spainish players maybe. But for British, Eastern European etc I believe we are as attractive.

The Thiago example is bad, he was clearly only ever interested in following Pep. Had Pep been made Norwich manager Thiago would have likely followed.
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Right, so for the countries/continents with around 70% of the worlds most talented footballers they're more attractive than us, got it.

Are we actually more attractive for British players or are you basing that purely on the fact that we sign more? Most British players Real have gone for, they've signed. Owen, Beckham, McManaman, now Bale.

Also, Eastern European, um ... like who exactly? What top Eastern Europeans have we signed? Vidic? Any others?

I don't get why people try to argue we're as appealing as Real, we never were, and we're even less appealing now because we've fallen further behind them financially and because we lost our biggest appeal to players, SAF.
 
b82REZ said:
For South Americans and other Spainish players maybe. But for British, Eastern European etc I believe we are as attractive.

The Thiago example is bad, he was clearly only ever interested in following Pep. Had Pep been made Norwich manager Thiago would have likely followed.
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We've missed out on more British players that we have gone for than Real. If Real really want a player, and make him a priority, they end up getting him, irrespective of the player's nationality. We're not as attractive as Real, never have been but then no other club in the world is.
 
Cina said:
Right, so for the countries/continents with around 70% of the worlds most talented footballers they're more attractive than us, got it.

Are we actually more attractive for British players or are you basing that purely on the fact that we sign more? Most British players Real have gone for, they've signed. Owen, Beckham, McManaman, now Bale.

Also, Eastern European, um ... like who exactly? What top Eastern Europeans have we signed? Vidic? Any others?

I don't get why people try to argue we're as appealing as Real, we never were, and we're even less appealing now because we've fallen further behind them financially and because we lost our biggest appeal to players, SAF.
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Eastern Europeans was probably not the best term, I'd say northern Europe, Netherlands, Belgium etc. We are clearly the more desired destination for British players.

It's such a cop out to say because we've fallen behind financially all top prospects are going to jump ship or avoid United. A lot of players recognise they will simply not be given the chance at the two big Spainish clubs, as many talented youngsters find out. There would be no benefit of Januzaj going to Spain, at least during his current develpoment. Madrid aren't exactlt reknowned for giving youth a chance, and Barca are well stocked in talented young attackers and playmakers.

I do believe a lot of these reports are fabricated. No doubt the top clubs recognise his talent, but there is no reason for them to want him, especially when they are well stocked in these areas already with players further along in their development.
 
Bestie07 said:
We've missed out on more British players that we have gone for than Real. If Real really want a player, and make him a priority, they end up getting him, irrespective of the player's nationality. We're not as attractive as Real, never have been but then no other club in the world is.
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I disagree.

The only one is Bale, for whom Madrid went all out for. They offered more than he was worth in terms of transfer fee and wages. I can't think of many other British players Madrid were interested in, let alone beat United to their signature.
 
b82REZ said:
Eastern Europeans was probably not the best term, I'd say northern Europe, Netherlands, Belgium etc. We are clearly the more desired destination for British players.

It's such a cop out to say because we've fallen behind financially all top prospects are going to jump ship or avoid United. A lot of players recognise they will simply not be given the chance at the two big Spainish clubs, as many talented youngsters find out. There would be no benefit of Januzaj going to Spain, at least during his current develpoment. Madrid aren't exactlt reknowned for giving youth a chance, and Barca are well stocked in talented young attackers and playmakers.

I do believe a lot of these reports are fabricated. No doubt the top clubs recognise his talent, but there is no reason for them to want him, especially when they are well stocked in these areas already with players further along in their development.
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How are we clearly that? Whenever Real have wanted a British player, they've gotten them. People can argue all they want but Real are and always were a preferred destination for around 95% of footballers than us, British players included.

I'm not copping out, merely pointing out truth, we can't offer the silly wages and transfer fees or Barca or Real and thus we're not going to be able to sign the superstars they do. Big deal.

You're kidding yourself if you think that we have the same lure to players as they do.
 
Cina said:
How are we clearly that? Whenever Real have wanted a British player, they've gotten them. People can argue all they want but Real are and always were a preferred destination for around 95% of footballers than us, British players included.

I'm not copping out, merely pointing out truth, we can't offer the silly wages and transfer fees or Barca or Real and thus we're not going to be able to sign the superstars they do. Big deal.

You're kidding yourself if you think that we have the same lure to players as they do.
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Name one other than Bale.
 
b82REZ said:
I disagree.

The only one is Bale, for whom Madrid went all out for. They offered more than he was worth in terms of transfer fee and wages. I can't think of many other British players Madrid were interested in, let alone beat United to their signature.
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I didn't mean to say in terms of direct competition. We are rarely ever in for players at the top of their game, and even if we are and Madrid become interested, we pull out. What I meant to say was that there are several Britishers who have rejected United for other clubs, while I can't think of any(Gerrard?) who have rejected Madrid. That they haven't made a move for may British players doesn't discount for the fact that when they do they inevitable end up getting them.
 
Cina said:
How are we clearly that? Whenever Real have wanted a British player, they've gotten them. People can argue all they want but Real are and always were a preferred destination for around 95% of footballers than us, British players included.

I'm not copping out, merely pointing out truth, we can't offer the silly wages and transfer fees or Barca or Real and thus we're not going to be able to sign the superstars they do. Big deal.

You're kidding yourself if you think that we have the same lure to players as they do.
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Yup.
 
b82REZ said:
One of whom we sold as we no longer wanted him, and when did we show any interest in the others?
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Am I supposed to know the inner dealings of the club?

When have we ever beaten Real to a player, can you answer me that?

Actually when the feck does anyone ever beat Real to a player? Apart from ... Barca.
 
Bestie07 said:
Name one they went for who rejected them?
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Gerrard, sure I read reports of Rio being approached too. Sure there's dozens more.

You are both taking examples from over a decade a go, and using them examples even though we never had any interest in those players.

The point I'm making is Madrid don't always beat us to targets, Bale being to only one who we were apparently interested in who turned us down.
 
b82REZ said:
Gerrard, sure I read reports of Rio being approached too. Sure there's dozens more.

You are both taking examples from over a decade a go, and using them examples even though we never had any interest in those players.

The point I'm making is Madrid don't always beat us to targets, Bale being to only one who we were apparently interested in who turned us down.
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Do pray tell me more.

Oh, remember, they can't be from a decade ago, that's not allowed apparently.
 
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