Adnan Januzaj

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I'll happily admit I was utterly, utterly wrong about him.

He's taken everything into his stride and by january he'll be in our first choice XI. I predicted about five appearances for him..

He's put my predictions to shame and he's already twice the player I thought he was. Long may it continue!


It's barely October and he's already in our first choice XI in my opinion.
 
feck, to think I wanted him sent out on loan because I was scared of stalling his development with the limited opportunities he'd get :lol: Don't want to get too carried away (it's so difficult not to though), but he's on the fringes now & after that performance, he'll rightly start the next match as well.

Let's get the contract sorted :nervous: To speed things up, we can just give him Young's contract. Just tippex out the name/date/signature :lol:

#savethetrees
 
It's very difficult to discard your ethnicity. However, that's not to say you cannot love, and respect the country of your residence - or do what is best for you as a professional.

Yeah, it's a different debate for a different conversation. But I think it's wrong for people to forget about their heritage or not even acknowledge it. And I find it funny when people who's heritage is the same as their place of birth try and tell others what country they should choose.

But had I been born in Germany or France it may have been different, and I think that's where the argument is for me. I'd represent GB over Turkey because I'm British, but I wouldn't represent England over Turkey because I'm not English.

But yeah, this isn't the thread for this debate.
 
What a weird post. 18-year-old won the away game in PL ffs and all that while looking head and shoulders above other players. It's not a common thing nowadays.


Made weirder by the hyperbole that he uses to describe Deulofeu with far less justification.
 
Anyone born in Belgium should be Belgian right?

It's not always that simple though devilish. You don't necessarily just disregard your heritage. I'm sure Januzaj will make the decision that is right for him and that he feels most comfortable with regardless of what people think he 'should be'.
 
Made weirder by the hyperbole that he uses to describe Deulofeu with far less justification.
Deulofeu has half the footballing brain Januzaj got and I don't think he's better at anything else demanded at this stage. For me he falls into a good/great talent whereas Adnan has a special talent aura about him.
 
What are your thoughts?

Perhaps reactions are a little OTT, but his introduction was a bit special. It wasn't just the technical quality of his goals, but also the vast importance of them in the context of our season. These weren't just good strikes in the Reserves or meaningless goals as part of a big scoreline.

I think he's terrific and it's understandable why so many clubs, including my own, were pursuing him ahead of his arrival to United.

I liked him even before the goals, he has composure, fearlessness as well as skill. There are many bright talents out there with loads of skill but fail to make the leap in the other areas Adnan has already. It begins now for him and there will be ups & downs and I understand the excitement from fans - was merely poking fun of our nature to go OTT far too soon

Didn't you buy into Pep's "I've got 50 players as good as Wilshere" pile of old bollocks?

Hard to buy into something he never said. Claiming 50 echoes the hyperbole I was alluding to wrt Adnan.
 
Get what you say about the aura

he has the confidence to make his own decisions, was floating around and you cold see him developing into a number 10 - he reminds me of Kaka more than any other player

Got to feel for Shinji - excellent player at the wrong time for United?

getting Adnan on a 5/6 year contract has got to be a priority
 
I never knew much about him until yesterday and he looks unbelievably good. Imagine how gutted you would be if this lad never signed a new contract, lucky for you guys that Woodward fella is on the case.
 
I think he's terrific and it's understandable why so many clubs, including my own, were pursuing him ahead of his arrival to United.

I liked him even before the goals, he has composure, fearlessness as well as skill. There are many bright talents out there with loads of skill but fail to make the leap in the other areas Adnan has already. It begins now for him and there will be ups & downs and I understand the excitement from fans - was merely poking fun of our nature to go OTT far too soon
What I take it is you basically laugh at what you perceive to be a normal and justifiable reaction to one of the best full debuts you will see from a kid out there. Fair enough.
 
Deulofeu has half the footballing brain Januzaj got and I don't think he's better at any anything else demanded at this stage. For me he falls into a good/great talent whereas Adnan has a special talent aura about him.


Yes, but Deulofeu has dominated at every youth level!

I'm sure Deulofeu will come good and become a very good player in his own right, but you can't criticise others for using hyperbole to describe an 18 year old who just won a game we looked like losing with two moments of quality, while talking up a kid who has done nothing at senior level (while getting extremely defensive and snarky at people who disagree with your assessment of him as a special talent, if I remember it correctly)
 
Made weirder by the hyperbole that he uses to describe Deulofeu with far less justification.

One, I have not used any hyperbole to describe Deulofeu. Two, Deulofeu has done more on every level (Including NT) for longer than Adnan to justify hype. Lastly, Deulofeu, like Adnan, is not the finished article and is a goalscorer whereas Adnan will become a creative midfielder
 
Yes, but Deulofeu has dominated at every youth level!
Will take your word for it. Hasn't impressed me yet at senior level which is sort of understandable. Reminiscent of younger Sturridge in terms of selfishness.
 
One, I have not used any hyperbole to describe Deulofeu. Two, Deulofeu has done more on every level (Including NT) for longer than Adnan to justify hype. Lastly, Deulofeu, like Adnan, is not the finished article and is a goalscorer whereas Adnan will become a creative midfielder
I think the fact Adnan is yet to play NT football can have some bearing on it.
 
What I take it is you basically laugh at what you perceive to be a normal and justifiable reaction to one of the best full debuts you will see from a kid out there. Fair enough.

Comparing to CR & Messi is justifiable & normal? Fair enough
 
Comparing to CR & Messi is justifiable & normal? Fair enough
In terms of what they were like when they first broke to any kind of first team, top level football? Yes, perfectly justifiable and normal. Nobody will tell you he's definitely going to reach their level but the signs bode well for him.
 
Who pissed in FCBarca's cornflakes this morning? Of course people are going to go overboard when an 18 year-old wins you a game and a potentially vital one at that.
 
In other words, he has yet to do something to warrant/justify the hype eh?
He bettered every single player on the pitch despite there were some coveted stars playing. Away from home, where nothing seemed to click for us. It can sometimes justify the hype more than dominating your opposite peers while playing for a NT full of young starlets. Judge him by what he can show in the first team football, among the senior players and we'll see how they fare.
 
The great thing about him is that he still looks like a kid. Most 17-19 year olds that break onto the scene really early usually already look physically developed, i.e Rooney. Adnan's still got all that to come. He's probably not even shaved yet!
 
I remember this time last year I went to watch the Under-18's up at Loughborough and Januzaj was injured at the time and I was a bit disappointed in not being able to see him, if you told me then he'd be a matchwinner for us in a year I'd have called you a madman. His development so far has been terrific, he's worked very hard on developing his physical frame and killer instinct and he's got a fair way to go yet but he's done really well so far. The biggest thing for young players is carrying their game across the levels when they move up, a lot of youngsters look nervous and get caught out but Januzaj seems to thrive on moving up. We know he has technical ability but his mentality is why a lot of people are excited, his game is very mature and he isn't phased by anything. He was born in 1995 FFS. There seems to be a fair few players at the club seemingly afraid to run at people and look for the ball but not this lad, it's refreshing.
 
The great thing about him is that he still looks like a kid. Most 17-19 year olds that break onto the scene really early usually already look physically developed, i.e Rooney. Adnan's still got all that to come. He's probably not even shaved yet!
It looks to me he's got good skeletal system with wide, spread shoulders. He's got a good capacity to develop a muscular stature, the question is do we want him to do so.
 
The great thing about him is that he still looks like a kid. Most 17-19 year olds that break onto the scene really early usually already look physically developed, i.e Rooney. Adnan's still got all that to come. He's probably not even shaved yet!

He looks like a kid! Rooney at 16 was built like a 24 year old, Adnan looks about 16. It's hard not to get excited by his talent, he reminds me of Özil for some reason. Also as for the NT debate, I reckon footballers should choose the country they feel closer too. If Adnan feels more Albanian then fair enough, I just hope it's not his father making the decision for him. Also we need to give him a contract to reflect his status as a first team player and give him #7 whilst we're at it.
 
In other words, he has yet to do something to warrant/justify the hype eh?


Obviously you are not very informed on Adnan Januzaj (reference to your attitude toward people questioning Deulofeu)

He's dominated every youth he's played at- including winning the Player of the Tournament award at the FIFA Blue Stars Event in Switzerland last year, and he has rejected numerous and repeated call-ups to national sides because he wanted to concentrate on his club career and didn't want to be boxed into choosing one side over the other since he has a difficult choice ahead- potential success or pride. He's definitely done enough to warrant hype.
 
In terms of what they were like when they first broke to any kind of first team, top level football? Yes, perfectly justifiable and normal. Nobody will tell you he's definitely going to reach their level but the signs bode well for him.

I commented on how promising Adan looked when I saw him preseason, that doesn't change for me because he scored a couple of goals against Sunderland and it would never lead me to compare him to world class players nevermind the greatest player in the game. That, incidentally, is precisely hyperbole. Moreover, his lack of NT success/play nevermind success only makes the comparison to a talent like Deulofeu who has done well at every level, including NTs like Spain that have dominated Internationally, a poor one.

Of course there's excitement for him, he's unquestionably the most promising player at United
 
Comparing him to Ronaldo and Messi as finished articles is different than comparing them at their teen years respectively. You should know Rooney was better than both of them at 18. Januzaj, for the time being, falls into that exclusive bracket. It's what he does from now on that will determine his career.
 
I commented on how promising Adan looked when I saw him preseason, that doesn't change for me because he scored a couple of goals against Sunderland and it would never lead me to compare him to world class players nevermind the greatest player in the game. That, incidentally, is precisely hyperbole. Moreover, his lack of NT success/play nevermind success only makes the comparison to a talent like Deulofeu who has done well at every level, including NTs like Spain that have dominated Internationally, a poor one.

Of course there's excitement for him, he's unquestionably the most promising player at United


And of of the top 5 talents in world football.
 
I'm sure Fergie will be delighted that Adnan is getting his chances and proving how good he is. One thing he always loved was young forwards giving him a headache.
 
Obviously you are not very informed on Adnan Januzaj (reference to your attitude toward people questioning Deulofeu)

He's dominated every youth he's played at- including winning the Player of the Tournament award at the FIFA Blue Stars Event in Switzerland last year, and he has rejected numerous and repeated call-ups to national sides because he wanted to concentrate on his club career and didn't want to be boxed into choosing one side over the other since he has a difficult choice ahead- potential success or pride. He's definitely done enough to warrant hype.

Blue Stars Events is a club football tournament, not a NT tourney. I know about his issues with Belgium & Albania but they are immaterial as a basis for comparison when criticism was levied at Deulofeu for hype on him when he has actually done well on all of these levels. Adnan does not have that on his resume, it doesn't make him less of a player but his body of work is - hence, the comparison of hype.
 
Comparing him to Ronaldo and Messi as finished articles is different than comparing them at their teen years respectively. You should know Rooney was better than both of them at 18. Januzaj, for the time being, falls into that exclusive bracket. It's what he does from now on that will determine his career.

Sorry, I didn't realize you had no idea what you were talking about. Carry on.
 
I'm sure it would be the other forwards that would be giving him a headache at the moment! feck me, they are out of form.


I meant a selection headache. It's still hard to throw a young lad on no matter how good he is. Proud of that from Moyes yesterday.
 
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