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To be fair, Januzaj is still taking too many risks during games. It makes the good stuff look really good, while the bad stuff gets swept under the carpet because he's still a kid.

I would be hesitant to make full-on comparisons until I've seen what he's like when he's ironed a few more of the weaknesses out of his game. If he can keep his productivity up while making fewer errors, then we'll able to say whether he's actually better than such and such a player. For example, Welbeck used to take few risks but his end product was crap; it's only now that he's starting to get over it and we can judge him as something close to what he'll eventually become. That's the balance Januzaj needs to find, albeit in the opposite direction.


I thought that he was the best player on the pitch yesterday, regardless of the goals. Odd comment IMO.

I'd expect any top player to take risks, never mind a youngster that looks like he could potentially become a top class player.
 
Talking about yesterday's game or just in general? I actually thought he was quite mature most of the time in yesterday's game and I don't really remember him taking unnecessary risks. His passing was good (apart from a misplaced early pass that put pressure on our defence) and I don't really remember him losing the ball that often when going dribbling.


There was one instance yesterday where he tried to flick the ball through the legs of a defender whilst 2 other defenders were on him. It was a bit of a dead end, but you can't knock the lad for having a go. If he'd have gotten around the other side of 3 defenders with the ball at his feet, there'd be boners all over the caf.
 
I agree with the general sentiment in regards to taking risks, he seems mature already and will only learn. In terms of a contract does anyone feel nervous ?? Also what is this England talk I am hearing?
 
There was one instance yesterday where he tried to flick the ball through the legs of a defender whilst 2 other defenders were on him. It was a bit of a dead end, but you can't knock the lad for having a go. If he'd have gotten around the other side of 3 defenders with the ball at his feet, there'd be boners all over the caf.

Well, I consider that part of being a creative player particularly if you're playing on the wing. I think people have gotten too used to Young if that counts as a risk really.
 
I thought that he was the best player on the pitch yesterday, regardless of the goals. Odd comment IMO. I'd expect any top player to take risks, never mind a youngster that looks like he could potentially become a top player.

He was the best player but he did play a few loose balls trying to force the issue. However it wasn't anymore than the amount Rooney tends to give away during a game.
 
I agree with the general sentiment in regards to taking risks, he seems mature already and will only learn. In terms of a contract does anyone feel nervous ?? Also what is this England talk I am hearing?


Hodgeson and Moyes have both confirmed England are interested in calling him up, but unless there is some loophole I don't know of, the Home Nations agreement pretty much forbids it. He's not lived in the UK long enough prior to turning 18.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_eligibility_rules#Home_nations_agreement

And I am nervous. I don't think he's anything like Pogba, and he seems to be working closely with his family than a dogshit agent, but the world seems to knowhis contract situation and know how good he is. Yesterday reinforced it even more. There are clubs who will probably be willing to throw more money at him than we are, and that could turn anyones head.

The positive here is that when we signed him, we weren't the only club after him, and he chose us. Hopefully nothing has changed for him in the past 2 years. All the quotes from him seem to be very positive too, and he seems genuinely grateful to be getting any minutes at all.
 
Well, I consider that part of being a creative player particularly if you're playing on the wing. I think people have gotten too used to Young if that counts as a risk really.


Exactly. I agree entirely. I love seeing players have a go and really try to cause problems. If they lose the ball from being positive and trying to make things happen, then so be it. Good on him for having the bottle at 18 to try and take on defenders when he was swarmed.
 
People always make comparisons. It's a kind of compulsion, similar to reading horoscopes, and trying to divine the future from tea leaves. We want to skip all the growing up bit and get straight to the "looking back on their achievements" ceremony.

But actually, watching a player grow up and become the player they're supposed to be is about one of the best things in football. To me, we had the best of Ronaldo because we saw him develop and change, Madrid just bought him. I like RvP a lot (for his interviews as well as his play!) but I'm more attached to Welbeck.

However, it is inevitable when you see a young player make his debut to remember other debuts. Sticking to United ones of the (relatively) recent past. I'd say he's in the Giggs/Ronaldo family - a player who arrives in the team and looks at home, who looks like they've got the wow factor. The fact he capped it with two goals to turn a game round can't help but remind you of Giggs' first start, scoring against City to win the game.

I remember Welbeck's debut in a mid season friendly - he did everything except score, in fact he missed a penalty, but he had something special there as well. Macheda wowed us with goals, but I really don't remember him doing anything else - and we've all seen ordinary players hit extraordinary goals. I won't even mention Beckham because I really don't remember him looking like anything special in his first few games.

Clearly, he's not the finished article. Great, we get to see him develop and grow. What could possibly be better to watch than an unknown quantity, with great potential.

Assuming we don't mess up on his contract of course.
 
I think he will sign the contract, especially since he's getting so much minutes. He's pretty much cemented himself a few more starts after his performances. He does sound like he's a very committed guy and takes in all the good advice from his family. He has so much courage and belief in himself and the skills cone second because without courage there's no skills. I think he will stay here for quite some years and then move on to another club.

He is sensible with the ball too imo, there wasn't any naive play but. It looked like this kid was trying to lead a bunch of men and he did that very well. He seems to look up to giggs too, maybe he is a real influence around him. With the good company he will go very very far and judging by the way he carries himself he looks dedicated.
 
Shocking that isn't it. The lot of them have been piss poor for far to long.


Nani is more of a goalscorer whilst those two are more chance creators. But it doesn't excuse an unbelievably poor stat from a position that has regular goalscorers in different teams.
 
Excited how good he could be. Up there among the very best young talents in the world.
 
Is he? He has more assists than both in the last 4 years.


True. Shouldn't compare Young, he just doesn't count as a human being. If Valencia didn't break his leg and be out for the entire year in 2010/11 season they would be on an equal number. But he did and so his numbers are a bit skewed.

That said, Nani did have a mad assist season in the same season Tony V broke his leg, 19 in the Premier league alone.
 
True. Shouldn't compare Young, he just doesn't count as a human being. If Valencia didn't break his leg and be out for the entire year in 2010/11 season they would be on an equal number. But he did and so his numbers are a bit skewed.

That said, Nani did have a mad assist season in the same season Tony V broke his leg, 19 in the Premier league alone.
They still have basically the same appearances over that period so it makes no difference.

Nani really isn't that much of a goalscorer, he's very creative, that's why I found your post a little odd.
 
True. Shouldn't compare Young, he just doesn't count as a human being. If Valencia didn't break his leg and be out for the entire year in 2010/11 season they would be on an equal number. But he did and so his numbers are a bit skewed.

That said, Nani did have a mad assist season in the same season Tony V broke his leg, 19 in the Premier league alone.
Nonsense. Nani's had as many injury issues in the same period. You're just making excuses for Valencia.
 
They still have basically the same appearances over that period so it makes no difference.

Nani really isn't that much of a goalscorer, he's very creative, that's why I found your post a little odd.


He's more of a natural goalscorer than those two, don't you think? His instinct is to shoot rather than pass I find. He's been our top scorer out of the wingers almost every year since Ronaldo left. Not that that is very hard to do...

But yeah he does create too, I just don't think he is an effective crosser or corner taker
 
He's more of a natural goalscorer than those two, don't you think? His instinct is to shoot rather than pass I find. He's been our top scorer out of the wingers almost every year since Ronaldo left. Not that that is very hard to do...

But yeah he does create too, I just don't think he is an effective crosser or corner taker
But Valencia doesn't take corners!

He's a better crosser too.

Basically what you said made no sense :)
 
Nonsense. Nani's had as many injury issues in the same period. You're just making excuses for Valencia.


A leg break or a hamstring injury, which one would be easier to recover from you reckon?

Nani's longest layoff was 3 months last year since both him and Valencia have been at the club. Valencia was out for 7 months. I'm not going to go into a detailed argument about how you're wrong, but you are.
 
A leg break or a hamstring injury, which one would be easier to recover from you reckon?

Nani's longest layoff was 3 months last year since both him and Valencia have been at the club. Valencia was out for 7 months. I'm not going to go into a detailed argument about how you're wrong, but you are.
As Cina said they've played a similar amount of games. None of us know who had it tougher, someone who had one really bad injury or someone else who kept having little disruptive niggles here and there. In truth, the poor performances of both players isn't down to injuries. They've just been poor. There's no need to make excuses for either.

And Nani isn't more of a scorer than a creator. That is simply and utterly wrong. They're bothy creative players with Nani the more creative and Valencia the more solid.
 
If Rooney/Scholes/Rio was born somewhere else because his parents were forced to leave thier country because of war, I am sure people in this forum would have been saying that he should choose England.


So if Rooney was born in Monrovia and had lived in Liberia for much of his life he'll be English just like George Weah is?
 
It's not always that simple though devilish. You don't necessarily just disregard your heritage. I'm sure Januzaj will make the decision that is right for him and that he feels most comfortable with regardless of what people think he 'should be'.


There's a big difference between birth place and heritage. For example I've got a mate of mine who was born in London from Italian families. He knows Italian very well and he cooks pasta divinely, however he's English.

If he was a good player then I dont have any clue which nationality he would choose (I think he'll choose Italy because he's a bit of a bad loser). That doesnt make him less English then the queen. FFS he was born in London and had lived all his life there. How can he be less English then other English people?
 
One thing you hope is that some of the older experienced players who are doing sweet feck all at the moment see it as a kick up the arse.

If I was Young or Kagawa I'd be shitting myself. Whilst Kagawa doesn't look completely useless, he hasn't really imposed himself at all this season when given a chance. Januzaj's gung-ho approach has been a joy to behold. Neville said it yesterday, he has an acceptable arrogance in his play...something I think we lack in the team. He's miles off being the answer, but with hard work and the correct nurturing from DM, he can be the answer.
 
Joy to watch yesterday, its important that he signs the contract we have seen how stupid it was with Podga so if he is allowed to leave in a similar way, someone should be fired.
 
It will be weird wearing a shirt of a player 5 years younger than myself.
 
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