Adnan Januzaj

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He's an exciting talent but at this point in time surely Nani should be starting ahead of him (and Kagawa, and Welbeck).

Januzaj should be on the bench most games, and start some easier ties at Old Trafford.

He has performed better than all of them in the games he has played this season and deserves to be starting ahead of the players you mentioned on merit. The other players have to perform better when they get the opportunity to get the spot back from Januzaj, and they will get plenty of opportunities as Moyes is being very careful with his use of young Adnan.
 
He's an exciting talent but at this point in time surely Nani should be starting ahead of him (and Kagawa, and Welbeck).

Januzaj should be on the bench most games, and start some easier ties at Old Trafford.
His performances so far have been far superior to theirs.
 
True, and I had no objection to him starting against Cardiff at the weekend as he was deserving. But looking at the season ahead, we will win more points with Nani, Kagawa or Welbeck starting ahead of Januzaj. They are, at this time, better footballers.
 
His performances so far have been far superior to theirs.
I agree. Its a no brainer. He has been one of our better attacking performers this season. And unless his form suggests he needs to be dropped, he must be played every game.

Nani and Valencia have had more off games than he has had thusfar
 
I agree. Its a no brainer. He has been one of our better attacking performers this season. And unless his form suggests he needs to be dropped, he must be played every game.

Nani and Valencia have had more off games than he has had thusfar

Disagree there. As good as he has been, he should be used wisely. This is his breakthrough season, we don't want him suffering the same fate as Sterling suffered last season.
 
Disagree there. As good as he has been, he should be used wisely. This is his breakthrough season, we don't want him suffering the same fate as Sterling suffered last season.

Burnouts happen but only when they're played excessively to the extent that when they're playing bad, they're played more to regain the lost form. As long as Januzaj is in good form, there is no reason to drop him. You rotate him is fine. But he should be a first teamer and play majority of the matches.
 
I agree. Its a no brainer. He has been one of our better attacking performers this season. And unless his form suggests he needs to be dropped, he must be played every game.

Nani and Valencia have had more off games than he has had thusfar
Not sure about playing every game given how young he is, but I'd have him as first choice based on merit as of now.
 
Has he beat his wing-back on the outside and got past so far? Can't remember him doing it but I may be forgetting something.
 
He's not a winger though so doubt he's attempted it much.


Not trying to slate him I can't wait until he starts in the middle as a AM/creative CM in a midfield 3, just trying to figure out if he has actually beat his opponent on the outside this season. Interesting thing to know.
 
Not trying to slate him I can't wait until he starts in the middle as a AM/creative CM in a midfield 3, just trying to figure out if he has actually beat his opponent on the outside this season. Interesting thing to know.

Yeah I'm sure I've seen him do it, but he's definitely not a winger.
 
Any particular game?

Don't have a clue. But to be honest I was saying from the dummer that he's never going to be the type of player who's going to knock the ball past a player on the wing and beat him because he doesn't have the pace to beat him.

He's better off in the final third of the pitch and taking on players in tight spaces.
 
I don't actually think that he was that bad vs Cardiff. Taking a feck load of risks is natural in a young player and I'd be more worried if he played it overly safe. He's a confident lad and should just continue to do his thing for the time being. We have enough players hiding in their shells at the minute.
 
West Brom. When he played on the right, he beat a man on the outside. I've not watched my video again, but you may find something here, though I don't remember much.

It isn't in there at least but great highlight video mate. He has the second/third best range of passing in our team after Carrick/Rooney.
 
It isn't in there at least but great highlight video mate. He has the second/third best range of passing in our team after Carrick/Rooney.

If you're talking about range, I'll have to say that adnan probably has the best range out of any of our players including the 2 you mentioned. He has so many types of passing ability in his locker that rooney doesn't have imo.
 
If you're talking about range, I'll have to say that adnan probably has the best range out of any of our players including the 2 you mentioned. He has so many types of passing ability in his locker that rooney doesn't have imo.


True to be honest. I was thinking about long-balls but using range of passing which is the wrong term. I agree that Januzaj has the most in the locker. I would love to see him with Kagawa because he would be able to offer that long-ball threat which Kagawa doesn't have in his game.
 
But to be honest I was saying from the dummer that he's never going to be the type of player who's going to knock the ball past a player on the wing and beat him because he doesn't have the pace to beat him.

He's got an excellent turn of pace, I'd have thought that was fairly obvious. I think sometimes he looks slow to people as he can appear languid in gait, but he's burned numerous full backs for pace coming up the ranks.
 
He's got a good burst that's for sure but he's not a "pacey winger" type of player. He might be able to Traveller himself out burning up and down the pitch but he seems to prefer to rely on skill to leave people behind, which is good because it means he won't be rendered useless against a speedy marker.
 
He's got an excellent turn of pace, I'd have thought that was fairly obvious. I think sometimes he looks slow to people as he can appear languid in gait, but he's burned numerous full backs for pace coming up the ranks.

As ryans beard mentioned he does have a good initial burst but he doesn't have the flat out pace to knock a ball past a player and gain a yard. He's got the ability to create a yard of space by his movement, skill and quick acceleration but he's never going to win races against pacey full backs especially if that player has the yard on him already.
 
His pace shouldn't be an issue long term. Can't image he'll end up as a winger long term, Moyes has said he'll likely be a number 10 and so that initial burst will be all he needs, especially with his control. Plus once we do sort out the midfield it might actually let the wide players push up a little and so it will be less of an issue when he does play there or drift there.
 
As ryans beard mentioned he does have a good initial burst but he doesn't have the flat out pace to knock a ball past a player and gain a yard. He's got the ability to create a yard of space by his movement, skill and quick acceleration but he's never going to win races against pacey full backs especially if that player has the yard on him already.


You rarely have a flat race though, the winger normally squares the full back up and pushes it past, something he has done numerous times. The good thing about him is that he can beat you with a trick or pace, making him a very difficult player to defend against.
 
You rarely have a flat race though, the winger normally squares the full back up and pushes it past, something he has done numerous times. The good thing about him is that he can beat you with a trick or pace, making him a very difficult player to defend against.


But I think you're really overrating Januzaj's pace, it's probably the weakest part of his game. If he's off the shoulder of the full back, then yes he can beat the man easy with his skill, turn of pace, shoulder feints, basically whatever bag of tricks he likes to use. But if he's running and tries to knock it past a defender who is even half a yard ahead of him, he won't be beating the defender.
 
But I think you're really overrating Januzaj's pace, it's probably the weakest part of his game. If he's off the shoulder of the full back, then yes he can beat the man easy with his skill, turn of pace, shoulder feints, basically whatever bag of tricks he likes to use. But if he's running and tries to knock it past a defender who is even half a yard ahead of him, he won't be beating the defender.


It's pretty obvious you can't have watched him very often coming through the ranks. His main weakness is/was end product, his pace has never been an issue.
 
Left out against Leverkusen. A bit disappointing. He's done enough to merit a place on the bench in big games.
 
It's pretty obvious you can't have watched him very often coming through the ranks. His main weakness is/was end product, his pace has never been an issue.
I disagree with GM about his pace, but his weakness was his end product? Really?
 
It's pretty obvious you can't have watched him very often coming through the ranks. His main weakness is/was end product, his pace has never been an issue.

:lol: never watched him much through the ranks, okay then.
 
It's the only logical conclusion if you think he lacks pace. He's not a Walcott but he's plenty quick enough as he's proved over the last few seasons consistently.

No it's not the only logical conclusion, you're comparing him running against boys and not considering that men are faster. Like I keep explaining to you, if he's half a yard behind a pacey fullback he's not going to be able to just knock it past him like a Valencia and then be expected to get past him and win the ball. That's not his game, and his pace isn't suited to that.

I didn't say he's slow, but he's not going to be able to do that, he uses other methods to beat a man.
 
No it's not the only logical conclusion, you're comparing him running against boys and not considering that men are faster. Like I keep explaining to you, if he's half a yard behind a pacey fullback he's not going to be able to just knock it past him like a Valencia and then be expected to get past him and win the ball. That's not his game, and his pace isn't suited to that.

I didn't say he's slow, but he's not going to be able to do that, he uses other methods to beat a man.


Against the quickest full backs virtually no player would be able to knock it past and win it if he's a few yards off, it's a completely pointless argument?!
 
Against the quickest full backs virtually no player would be able to knock it past and win it if he's a few yards off, it's a completely pointless argument?!

Not really a pointless arguments, because even if it's not the quickest full backs, he's still not capable of really knocking it past a player and winning the ball if he's half a yard behind them.

But you disagree, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
Left out against Leverkusen. A bit disappointing. He's done enough to merit a place on the bench in big games.

Understandable that Moyes doesn't want to overplay an 18 year old. We'll see what happens against Tottenham.

I hope Moyes caution, or his evil genius, whichever it is, doesn't prompt him to ignore Januzaj's better claims in favour of older players.

No evidence of that yet though.
 
Personally, as much as he's impressed me this season, I don't see him getting any change out of Walker or Vertonghen. They will physically beast him. I'd prefer Valencia and Nani for this one.
 
Personally, as much as he's impressed me this season, I don't see him getting any change out of Walker or Vertonghen. They will physically beast him. I'd prefer Valencia and Nani for this one.

They've both been incredibly poor recently. But I think Nani and Valencia both did enough to earn the start anyway. Januzaj should get half an hour or so off the bench.
 
They've both been incredibly poor recently. But I think Nani and Valencia both did enough to earn the start anyway. Januzaj should get half an hour or so off the bench.

They might not be on top form, but they haven't physically declined. It would be men against boys with Januzaj - they are two of the most athletic in the League. If they are lacking at the minute, Valencia and Nani have the best tools presently to exploit it I think.
 
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