Adnan Januzaj
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Donovan and Dempsey are both over 30. They also don't play the same position. Aron Jóhannsson is already ahead of Eddie Johnson. That guy is 29 and playing in the MLS. He's in not way the future of the team.
What's your point about the WC that I haven't already said myself? Switzerland are on their way to their 3rd consecutive WC whilst Albania has never been. Again, completely comparable examples.
And I've said that Shaqiri would have played for Albania if he wanted to. Here's however a quote from him:
Your bit about Xhaka just proves my point. You say he actually got an offer from Albania but chose Switzerland.
Shaqiri got called from Switzerland but he never got called from Albania. Yes, he could have waited a few years until Albanian FA would hav erecognized his talent and call him, but that would have been absurd. Why should have Xhaka chose Albania when they asked him to gave them money if he wants to play. That would have been stupid, if nothing Albania should have given something to him, not vice versa.
Shaqiri also grew up in Switzerland and learned all he knows about football there. That's why he chose it. He said so.
That Xhaka bit. It actually sounds plausible. FAs can be retarded. I do think though that a counter-offer from him of "I'll do it without giving you guys any money" would have ended with them saying "Ok" but it's also a serious sign of an organization that you don't want to be part of. He still could have played for Albania if he really wanted, but he didn't. Which is ultimately my point. I totally get why they all chose Switzerland. Unless your upbringing is otherwise very strict then you normally associate yourself most with the country you grew up in. Him playing for Switzerland doesn't mean that he's just a Swiss. After all, he plays with three different flags on his boots, does he not?
He shouldn't have done that. He should have called them 'corrupted cnuts' and walk away. Why on Earth you should play for a team who asks you to give money to them, regardless if that is your nation or not.
Shaqiri is the one who plays with three different flags on his boots, Xhaka is the one who sang Albanian anthem when Switzerland players were asked to sing a song. It became a scandal in Switzerland especially after Xhaka admitted that he doesn't know the anthem of Switzerland.
The last point in bold definitely doesn't hold for Albanians. Usually we associate ourselves with our country, not the country we are grown. I have a lot of relatives who have borned in EU states and they consider themselves Kosovan/Albanian. In all cases I know is the same. As I have said many times ago, the situation is a bit more complicated than choosing between your state and the state when you were grown because Kosovo and Albania is not exactly the same, despite being the same nation. We are two different states of the same nation, and it's a bit more acceptable choosing someone else instead of Albania as it would have been if the choice was between Kosovo and someone else.
Can we not have all this talk about which country he might play for in a separate thread?
No! We need to sort this out now!
Fully expect him to start on Sunday. Massive day for the kid.
We need to start with the best team, he should be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Totally different types, Ronaldo was pacey even at the start what he didn't have was the football brain that Januzaj has at roughly the same age.
It's a shame that the fa's of pretty much all the country's in that part of the world are so corrupt. Ibrahimovic didn't end up playing for Bosnia because of a similar situation to this, our FA allegedly asked him to pay in order to play for the national team. fecking ridiculous, especially when you look at how good he is. It's like they don't realize that they, along with everyone else, will get a lot more money the better a team is and the further it gets, rather then just collect some small cash from players like that or from playing useless friendly games against small nations who pay under the table.
There's a starman, on the left hand side. He plays for Man United and his name is Januzaj.
I think it will be a risk if he starts on Sunday but it needs to be done. If he plays well then we know he is ready to start against other tough oppositions, if he doesn't then he will know he will need to work harder to get to that level.
I know what you mean but it's not as black and white as that.
You're looking at one side and saying if he passes, he is fine. If he doesn't, well he isn't up to that level yet. Well what about if he just has a poor game?
If RVP doesn't play well, would you say he isn't up to that level?
We judge players on single performances far too often.
There is a difference between rvp and Januzaj with one being a very experienced player who knows what to expect against the top teams. Januzaj, if selected in the starting XI, will be roaming in unchartered territory. We don't know how he will react in that situation. That being said even if he has a poor game, he will know he still has work to do which I guess is normal as he is still so young.
There is no doubt that he has a lot of work to do but you can't put a potential poor performance purely down to the stage he is on. He might be fine with it, he might feel very comfortable and his opponent might have a blinder, he might pick up an early knock and struggle to get into the game. That's nothing to do with his age, that's just being a footballer and sometimes things don't go to plan.
But I suppose it works the other way even if he has a good game there still will be work for him to do. But I think majority of us will be able to make a conclusion on whether he has a poor game or just ends up struggling against a tough opposition. I think there is a difference between the two.
Yeh he will have a lot of work to do, no doubt.
The majority will be able to form an opinion, only he will know what is going through his head. I understand your point though.
Whether he has great or poor game, at his age there will always be plenty of work to do if he wants to become better or one of the best players in the world.
I don't think anyone is disputing that.
Moyes should take a gamble and start him. Give him a minimum of 45 mins too see how's he doing. He provides us with that creative spark and is really the only player in the team who loves to take players on. Arsenal would attack in numbers and he could be vital during counter attacks. I want to see Mertesacker take on Januzaj 
. He's slightly overconfident and takes pot shots and it sometimes irks me, but just a little. We kind of need that arrogance. Specially after all the other players look pretty dull. I know he's gonna be great even against Arsenal if he plays his natural game. We need to play to our strengths and be confident. That's why I think he should be on the starting line up.
. He's slightly overconfident and takes pot shots and it sometimes irks me, but just a little. We kind of need that arrogance. Specially after all the other players look pretty dull. I know he's gonna be great even against Arsenal if he plays his natural game. We need to play to our strengths and be confident. That's why I think he should be on the starting line up.I dint think starting him is a gamble at all, although you might say Kagawa is showing signs of form and should start instead.
Moyes has handled him really well so far and I think Januzaj will play a big role in this match.
Moyes has handled him really well so far and I think Januzaj will play a big role in this match.
It will hardly be a gamble. The 3 games against the better sides, Moyes has started a combination of Young/Welbeck/Valencia out wide and United only have 1 consolation goal to show for it.He is the best option on the left if not already United's best winger/wide player at the moment.
I agree.We have a lot to lose on Sunday regarding the outcome of the match but as for Adnan, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain by playing him.
I do think using him as an impact sub will be the best route.
Sure he has the ability to start the game and take it too them, but this will be a cagey match with not many chances, they are not the Arsenal of recent times.
I can see the game being a draw coming into around 60 mins, which then bringing on Januzaj will get the crowd excited. Once he hit's a few dribbles at the defence it will get the place rocking, which could turn the momentum to our side. I do not think Young/Valencia/Kagawa/Nani have that same effect on our crowd.
Sure he has the ability to start the game and take it too them, but this will be a cagey match with not many chances, they are not the Arsenal of recent times.
I can see the game being a draw coming into around 60 mins, which then bringing on Januzaj will get the crowd excited. Once he hit's a few dribbles at the defence it will get the place rocking, which could turn the momentum to our side. I do not think Young/Valencia/Kagawa/Nani have that same effect on our crowd.
I actually like this. Would sound good on the terraces.
Cracking chant that.
He should start IMO. Games like these are incredibly difficult to get into let alone impact as a sub. Start with your best team.
thats excellent!
Heard a few singing that on the way out of Anoeta Tuesday night. Don't think it's properly taken off yet though.
I think the fact he was left out midweek was a pretty clear indication he'll start.
Agreed. It's a difficult balancing act for Moyes trying to juggle the sensible need not to give the lad 40+ games in his first season but also acknowledging that he's probably first 11 material already
What happens when he plays through the middle?
What happens when he plays through the middle?
Was kind of thinking the same. Seems a bit presumptive.
Then just sing;
'there's a star man, playing in our side..... '
'there's a star man, playing in our side..... '
What happens when he plays through the middle?
Then we change left hand side to "anywhere in the side"
I was comparing Ronaldo back in '03 compared to in '07. He was quick over the first 10 metres or so in his early days, but it wasn't until '06/'07 that he could really dribble the length of the field.
Anyway yeah, Januzaj is obviously a very different player. He does kind of play every so slightly like Messi though
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