Like Pogba? Oh wait...
Adnan Januzaj Exit Speculation
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Like Pogba? Oh wait...
Im sorry but this lad needs to go, sold for cheap or whatever, just get him out of the club by any means.
He isnt rotten to the core but he has calculated how football works for youngsters and absolutely missed the mark by a long shot. I am sick and tired of hearing about his "talent" and how he will be a top player one day, Not at United he wont, not at any top level club. The best he can hope for is a Nasri style career.
Unfortunately he was a shining beacon in a terrible terrible season under Moyes where we finished SEVENTH he would be great at a team like Everton or Saints but not Manchester United, sorry.
We have much bigger and better prospects coming through in Rashford and Martial and Memphis has much much more ability and physicality.
I actually dont think he has much of an attitude problem I just think he is desperate to make it and simply does not have the ability or commitment like others do.
Im looking forward to seeing his career progress but not here, not at United.
He isnt rotten to the core but he has calculated how football works for youngsters and absolutely missed the mark by a long shot. I am sick and tired of hearing about his "talent" and how he will be a top player one day, Not at United he wont, not at any top level club. The best he can hope for is a Nasri style career.
Unfortunately he was a shining beacon in a terrible terrible season under Moyes where we finished SEVENTH he would be great at a team like Everton or Saints but not Manchester United, sorry.
We have much bigger and better prospects coming through in Rashford and Martial and Memphis has much much more ability and physicality.
I actually dont think he has much of an attitude problem I just think he is desperate to make it and simply does not have the ability or commitment like others do.
Im looking forward to seeing his career progress but not here, not at United.
does anyone really see him having a long term future here ?
Pogba never broke into the first team. That's why he left.
He needs to take a long hard look at Lingard and show some patience and perseverance.
He's only 3rd choice and Mourinho doesn't work with 26 players. LVG didn't trusted him either. He played him right back, number 10 for one game before loaning him etc
Adnan has just been average since LVG came, and didn't showed anything at United for 2 years.
I think that a loan for a 21 years old man is the best option before selling him for good.
Adnan has just been average since LVG came, and didn't showed anything at United for 2 years.
I think that a loan for a 21 years old man is the best option before selling him for good.
In terms of talent alone yes, he just needs a good long loan by the looks of things.
Sell him for 15m with a Morata style buy-back clause for 20-25m, simples.
The stories about him refusing to use the reserve dressing room are probably (hopefully) just paper talk but if they are true, it's just more confirmation of him having a shitty attitude. There's a new manager in charge. He barely featured last season and has it all to prove if he wants to force his way into Mourinho's thinking. He should knuckle down and work his bollocks off at whatever level he is asked to play. If he can't/won't do that, then he'll never succeed at a club like United.
Ofcourse i realise that. But if you fail to show 2 managers your skillset you need to leave (On Loan prefer). The other players like Fellaini and Rojo were just examples. Louis gave a lot of players game time, why not Januzaj? Because he wasnt convinced and neither is Mourinho.
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It's a fecking disgrace @Pogue Mahone, there's a bloody World Cup winner changing in that dressing room, Adnan should be thrilled to be sharing with him
Personally i don't see the hype around him. Bar his 2 goal game under Moyes, Ive never seen anything that makes me think WOW. He was sent on loan to gain experience by LVG to a decent club and just spat his dummy out, so I'm not sure that we as a club 'owe' him anything else other than to offer him anything other than a loan if he wants to have a future with us. There is not a cat in hells chance he will get in the squad this year so a loan makes sense, but if it makes it easier just get rid of him.
Agree with all of this.
You want to believe Adnan's bad press is down to people having a go at him. Its all too easy to believe them though. It would be understandable if he had only had issues with Van Gaal. The squad as a whole visibly had issues with Van Gaal. Januzaj's fallen out with Tuchel, Wilmots and now Mou too. Its starting to look like a pattern. As talented as he is, he will never reach his potential if he is not able to get over himself.
Except Pogba never had any issues with anyone except Ferguson and that was only due to contracts. Adnan has managed to fall out with everyone who has managed him except OF Moyes.
Everything I read about this kid is negative. Rather than believe random people on RedCafe that it's all bollocks, I'm inclined to believe he actually does have an attitude problem. The fact that Louis "give every kid a chance" van Gaal didn't want him, Dortmund decided he was shit and sent him packing, and now Mourinho has stuck him in the reserves, suggests he's either A) Not as talented as many seem to think he is, or B) He's a bit of a twat. Either way we can't afford to be giving him a free ride. He can go elsewhere and prove all us doubters wrong, although I suspect he won't.
Pogba was a jumped up little shit who had shown way less for the first team or the under 21 than janujaz had. He expected to start over a great player like Park and a solid first teamer in Rafael even though his performance didn't warrant it. He then gets posed because we bring back on of our best ever players for half a season, a decision which proved right as we won the league. He ironically went against not only the best manager of all time but one who had overseen the development of many top class players.
I'm glad Pogba developed and we have him back but his attitude stunk at the time. In hindsight the move done him well but equally the decision to bring Scholes back worked well too.
If Adnans attitude problems are real then good riddance. However let's not act like he's ravel or anything. Let's learn our lessons from the 100 million just spent and not give up on him just yet especially as he ain't gonna grab us a lot of cash. Young people can make bad choices but doesn't mean none of them grow up in the end and maybe a loan to a lower league club and a relegation battle are just what he needs.
Really sounds like his pissing his career away now. At first, I disregarded the 'attitude' talk as just paper nonsense, but Tuchel, Scifo, and van Gaal all left without glowing reports of the player. Pretty frustrating news.
What happened to the painfully shy Adnan that used to be on MUTV now and again?
Anyway, I wonder if some of this is being briefed by the club - for example, the stuff about him getting angry over not being consulted regarding shirt-number changes sounds like a load of rubbish designed to make him look like a diva.
Anyway, I wonder if some of this is being briefed by the club - for example, the stuff about him getting angry over not being consulted regarding shirt-number changes sounds like a load of rubbish designed to make him look like a diva.
I know he's had limited game time but he just hasn't improved enough for me. He's physically weak and lacks the pace of a traditional winger and aside from his initial breakthrough into the first team he's been poor to average.
The likes of Januzaj ands Wilson may well prosper somewhere else but i can't ever envisage them being first choice United players.
The stuff about not sharing the changing rooms with the U21's shows a poor attitude if true - he should be willing to knuckle down and do what's asked to prove Jose wrong. I read somewhere he also wasn't happy about not being consulted regarding the no.11 shirt being given to Martial. Do me a favour - you're barely a first team player.
The likes of Januzaj ands Wilson may well prosper somewhere else but i can't ever envisage them being first choice United players.
The stuff about not sharing the changing rooms with the U21's shows a poor attitude if true - he should be willing to knuckle down and do what's asked to prove Jose wrong. I read somewhere he also wasn't happy about not being consulted regarding the no.11 shirt being given to Martial. Do me a favour - you're barely a first team player.
I hope the Sunderland loan deal goes ahead. Would be perfect for him. If we do sell him, I hope we insert one of those Real Madrid buy-back clauses. If he does give his head a wobble and makes the most of his talent he could still become a brilliant player.
Why would the club want to portray any player as a diva? Even if they want rid (for whatever reason) surely that's only going to put off potential buyers?
I seem to remember thinking Januzaj is the most dynamic, creative player in the team about 12 months ago - and then suddenly he's off to Dortmund in a still curious move that many people don't understand.
There's no falling out, he just wants to play. That's a good attitude, rather than a bad one.
Needs to improve his stamina and workrate in second halves though. That one prime reason many top managers don't like to pick him from the start. They don't think he'll last.
There's no falling out, he just wants to play. That's a good attitude, rather than a bad one.
Needs to improve his stamina and workrate in second halves though. That one prime reason many top managers don't like to pick him from the start. They don't think he'll last.
To placate fans who might be angry about Adnan's sale?
Whether it's the case or not, it seems to be in a lot of peoples heads that everyone in the game is some sort of master manipulator, using intrigue and political manoeuvres to shift their way to the top. Like I say, some of it may be true, but a lot of posters in general seem to be quite taken by this premise.
I don't doubt that Adnan has an attitude problem - it's just that the stuff about 'shirt-numbers consultation' struck me as odd. If he's genuinely that entitled, then he needs to grow up.
It does seem odd. Nowhere near as odd as some bright spark at the club creating it as a work of fiction though, surely?
It seems the decision to give Januzaj £50k was an overcompensation after the loss of Pogba. United were determined not to let another young player walk away.
If we'd offered Pogba £50k a week, perhaps he'd never have left!
If we'd offered Pogba £50k a week, perhaps he'd never have left!
Given the amount of negativity surrounding Januzaj's attitude already I don't think we need to plant stories.
It makes him look bad, which is why it stands out (for me anyway).
Just seen this.
That would be an absolutely crazy rationale. So worried about fans being upset over the sale of a fringe player that they would deliberately sabotage his perceived value to a potential buyer?
sell him with a buy back clause. Problem solved. He needs to play week in/week out now. If he does it at another club, then there is no reason why we can't just buy him back when he gets a little older
It would be very much in the clubs interest to counter them, if anything. A few articles about him being a talented and hard-working kid who just needs a break is exactly what they need right now. These rumours about him having a shit attitude helps noone.
The only real reason I'd be sad to see him go is because of that 'I wanna tell youuuu' song we had for him! I was hooked on that for about 2 months! Then again, it's speaks volumes when that's my main reason. Get rid asap, never going to cut it here. Attitude seems terrible to be honest
Agreed and I actually think the club are trying with him otherwise we'd have just sold him but instead we are adamant he only goes on loan, the rest has to be just put aside by supporters for now IMO, so much bullshit in this social media age.
Why are you being so disingenuous?
There'll always be a potential buyer for a young talent like Januzaj; further, it's pretty obvious that many United fans won't like him being sold, despite his attitude problems...so, the club making him seem like the bad guy isn't far-fetched at all.I guess the issue with trying to implement a buy-back clause is not only that Januzaj might not want to agree to it - he may/may not want to come back to the club - but also that if we're selling to a PL side, they aren't as obligated as the lower Spanish sides when Barca/Madrid do so to insert buy-back clauses. The sort of 'why insert a buy-back clause for x million when we can simply hold out for more?' type of rationale.
We have Young and Lingard ahead of Depay and Januzaj. I am sorry but this is a disgrace.
I would be annoyed if I was Januzaj. Superb under Moyes and then never been given a kick in 2 years. This will be Pogba all over again.
I would be annoyed if I was Januzaj. Superb under Moyes and then never been given a kick in 2 years. This will be Pogba all over again.
Is he not sold yet? Woodward!!!!!!!!
Why are you being so disingenuous?
I just don't understand why placating fans is worth using the media to portray him as damaged goods. It makes no financial sense and money will always be the prime motivator for the type of people who might be behind such a nefarious plot.
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