He wants a permanent transfer. Can feck off for all I care with his entitlement issues.
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Adnan Januzaj Exit Speculation
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This exactly. If he comes good, just buy him back.
Unless he holds a permanent grudge against Utd and refuses to come back.
Why are you being so disingenuous?There'll always be a potential buyer for a young talent like Januzaj; further, it's pretty obvious that many United fans won't like him being sold, despite his attitude problems...so, the club making him seem like the bad guy isn't far-fetched at all.
This was started right from last season and tuchel and that Belgium coach was in on it too? Seems pretty far fetched tbh
If he wants to leave then include a buy-back clause. We should do what Barca & Real do.
His advisors/ family come across to be more after money / fame than his career.
His long negotiations with us in 2013/14 which resulted in us giving him a ridiculous contract,
as well as his father giving tons of interviews about how grounded he is and how he will decide for which national team to play for and then just deciding in time for the WC to play for Belgium seemed weird to me for such a young player who hadn't achieved anything yet.
His long negotiations with us in 2013/14 which resulted in us giving him a ridiculous contract,
as well as his father giving tons of interviews about how grounded he is and how he will decide for which national team to play for and then just deciding in time for the WC to play for Belgium seemed weird to me for such a young player who hadn't achieved anything yet.
Why are people mentioning a buy back clause? If he turned out to be class, he'd have plenty of options and would be very unlikely to return to United to play under a manager that has 'humiliated' him.
Refuse to sell him. Loan him out, and if he develops into a very good player - we'll be able to demand a sizeable fee next Summer (although he'll only have 1 year remaining on his contract, we could still potentially get a lot more for him than we could now)
Unless somebody wants to pay £15m for him now, then sell him. Otherwise, loan him out again.
Refuse to sell him. Loan him out, and if he develops into a very good player - we'll be able to demand a sizeable fee next Summer (although he'll only have 1 year remaining on his contract, we could still potentially get a lot more for him than we could now)
Unless somebody wants to pay £15m for him now, then sell him. Otherwise, loan him out again.
Don't agree with insults being thrown at the lad for wanting to leave and further his career. The lad thinks he warrants first team football and is willing to go to a club like, reportedly Sunderland, to gain it.
Yes the Dortmund loan paints him in a negative light, but from the BBC article you can see why he's upset at this moment.
Hope we don't turn this into some drama, just let the lad go. Would be a delight to see him fulfill his potential, albeit at a club other than United.
Yes the Dortmund loan paints him in a negative light, but from the BBC article you can see why he's upset at this moment.
Hope we don't turn this into some drama, just let the lad go. Would be a delight to see him fulfill his potential, albeit at a club other than United.
You'd really hope they'd do this, there's still a potential for him to turn good, and if Sunderland got him Moyes (somehow) did seem to get the best out of him and would surely play him.
feck a buy back clause - just let him go. Moyes can give us 10-15m for him. Basta.
It's a shame. I think he'll go on to be a very good player and can understand why he wants to move too.
Don't think he'll go on to do all that much with his career, to be honest. Plenty of players look great when they bust onto the scene but there's been no progression / complete lack of playing time, since that point.
I'd be more interested in a sell-on clause than a buy-back clause TBH - I don't see him coming back, but the rate that the market is going up for non-United players then I'd gamble on him being sold for more in the future than we'd get for him this summer. That might also give us a bit of leverage if we did try to buy him back, as Sunderland would have to account a portion of the fee they received back to us anyway.
Whatever we do, don't just bend-over and accept the first pathetic offer we get - he's got two years left on his deal and he's pushing to leave against our wishes with weeks left in the window, so let's get a good deal here.
Whatever we do, don't just bend-over and accept the first pathetic offer we get - he's got two years left on his deal and he's pushing to leave against our wishes with weeks left in the window, so let's get a good deal here.
As much as most of us wanted him to succeed here, surely by now there's a recognition that - at least today - he's not a solution for a top team.
From watching loads of the reserves, I'd say he'll look best in a number 10 role, with the team built to suit him. As skillful as he is, he lacks the pace to be a truly effective winger. Kind of like the Mata problem - he can easily beat a man, but that doesn't matter much when the defender can catch up again in 2 steps. (and depressingly a bit like Memphis)
Then again, I can't really see a downside to a loan move in the prem. He'd be a great contributor to any mid/lower table team and we could finally see if all he needs is a run of games.
If he feels he's done enough to warrant a starting spot at United or bust, well...it has to be the latter.
From watching loads of the reserves, I'd say he'll look best in a number 10 role, with the team built to suit him. As skillful as he is, he lacks the pace to be a truly effective winger. Kind of like the Mata problem - he can easily beat a man, but that doesn't matter much when the defender can catch up again in 2 steps. (and depressingly a bit like Memphis)
Then again, I can't really see a downside to a loan move in the prem. He'd be a great contributor to any mid/lower table team and we could finally see if all he needs is a run of games.
If he feels he's done enough to warrant a starting spot at United or bust, well...it has to be the latter.
I remember when PSG were throwing money at us (allegedly anyway) when he first broke through...offering us upwards of £30m by all accounts...
At the time, he was the new hot prospect, but in hindsight, maybe we should've let him go...
At the time, he was the new hot prospect, but in hindsight, maybe we should've let him go...
No, my discussion was centred around the idea that Januzaj was furious at not being consulted over a change of shirt-number. I've already conceded that he appears to have an attitude problem.
Or a bit of both. Probably, he could get away with being a bit of a twat if he was as talented as some of the hype around him was back in 2014.
This. Whatever about putting a buy back clause in his sale but he needs to leave the club. It doesn't matter if he has all the talent in the world as he clearly has huge attitude problems which will see him fail to achieve his potential. Rio mentioned that back during Pogba's first spell he caught him, Ravel and Januzaj sitting on the pitch, messing around and not putting the work in. It's telling that only Pogba had the determination and attitude to actually reach his potential. Even Ravel seems to be getting his head down. Januzaj still seems to feel he's worth a starting place despite showing nothing bar a few performances when the rest of the team were abysmal. The stories of him and Periera not taking the u21's games seriously just shows he still retain's the attitude problems Rio mentioned.
We should just sack him. And Depay. Refuse to sell or loan them out. Just pay out their contract and tell them to feck of. Draw a line in the sand and make an example out of them. So future players know that we don't tolerate this bullshit behaviour. For me Depay is even worse then Januzaj, but I understand why we should give him a final season to see if he can make it. But I would be extremly suprised if he changes his personality disorder along with his game the next month.
So we should pay to get rid of these players rather than actually receive money for them by selling them. Just to send out a message. Good thinking.
All a player has to do in the future is show a bad attitude and he can leave the club with a nice pay day. Sound logic. That'll show 'em!
I don't think you've thought this through. You suggest paying them all the money they are entitled to in their contract and then allowing them to move on a free transfer to whoever they wish, where they would likely pick up a sizeable signing-on fee? If a player wants to leave a club, that would be the dream scenario for them.
Bournemouth are the worst place to send him. They have so many players with similar skills like dribbling, crossing. Maybe not so many with all his skills but ... Why would they play him?
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You guys are so sensitive. Any time a player doesn't get playing time and wants to go to another club why is it that we have to attack them? Someone on here mentioned "entitlement". Wanting first team football is now entitlement?
It's not like he's causing havoc in the dressing room. He wants to go to Sunderland to play regulalry. Anyway, I personally think this has Pogba written all over it. Whether I am right or wrong, one thing you all have to agree with me on is Pogba leaving was recieved the exact same way on this forum. I was of the opinion we should let pogba go since I thought he hadn't proved himself at the top level of football.
It's not like he's causing havoc in the dressing room. He wants to go to Sunderland to play regulalry. Anyway, I personally think this has Pogba written all over it. Whether I am right or wrong, one thing you all have to agree with me on is Pogba leaving was recieved the exact same way on this forum. I was of the opinion we should let pogba go since I thought he hadn't proved himself at the top level of football.
Want him to stay.
Reading between the lines, and maybe adding a little spice to it, he sounds like a player who needs a manager who will suck his balls on a regular basis, tell him how wonderful he is, not make him to do anything annoying like hard work or irritating things like tracking back and defending, and allow him to play a free role in the forward line.
That clearly isn't Mourinho.
Unless Jose has a massive disaster, he'll be around for the next 2 seasons, and that's how long there is remaining in Adnan's contract. So it's fair enough he wants to leave, as he probably doesn't see himself as a Mourinho style player who will get much game time. He sure as hell isn't gonna get a contract extension, so his logic in wanting to leave is fair.
That clearly isn't Mourinho.
Unless Jose has a massive disaster, he'll be around for the next 2 seasons, and that's how long there is remaining in Adnan's contract. So it's fair enough he wants to leave, as he probably doesn't see himself as a Mourinho style player who will get much game time. He sure as hell isn't gonna get a contract extension, so his logic in wanting to leave is fair.
Now whenever we let any young player go we're going to have people referencing Pogba, aren't we? The chances of any of our young players getting even remotely close to being as talented as Pogba are extremely slim.
Januzaj would be perfect for a relegation dog fight. He can play in the centre or #11, or even #7. Match him with a fast striker to play his through balls to and he'll be deadly on the counter. His corners from the right, set piece deliveries. Crosses from the left. All very useful to a struggling side.
Just putting this here and someone can quote me on it, but I reckon hel be playing in the championship by next August . He's absolutely shite and other than a few good games at the start of his career he's done feck all for the club or for himself . He appeared to be good because he was a new entity and defenders had no idea what his style was . Now that opposing managers get all the stats and videos of the opposition , turns out he's just quite easy to play against now . Won't ever amount to anything , I genuinely got more excited about Rodrigo possebon
contract till july 2018... so I'm not sure we would get much more for him in a seasons time even if he does well
No other young player in the recent past can be compared to be honest.
I fail to understand how he could be so surprised about been left out of the squad, and the fact he is seemingly been so childish about it says a lot of about him.
If I heard the same story about Pereira then I could maybe understand it a bit more, because he, unlike Januzaj has never been given a proper chance in the first team, when he probably should have been, but no he just gets on with it.
I'm leaning towards the sell Januzaj camp atm, I'm just not sure he's got what it takes.
If I heard the same story about Pereira then I could maybe understand it a bit more, because he, unlike Januzaj has never been given a proper chance in the first team, when he probably should have been, but no he just gets on with it.
I'm leaning towards the sell Januzaj camp atm, I'm just not sure he's got what it takes.
Perreria is a great young player and I am hopeful he can make it somewhere but he doesn't come close to Januzaj in terms of natural talent and ability.
Again, I don't see why people find it so shocking that a 21 year old wants first team football. For arguments sake, even if he is complete shit he would still want football because everyone think they are the best.
Not given any warning? You made 5 PL appearances last season. Take a fecking hint, son!
Granted januzaj is too young to be written off but he is more bojan than Pogba at this point of time.
And Pogba wasn't much of what he is now too at that time. I am not even saying he will turn out to be pogba. Just saying the sentiment on here was exactly the same
Pogba however left for juve and in a short while broke into a midfield many thought was almost impossible to break into especially for a 18 year old who barely played at senior level. Just into his second month he was scoring worldies. Whereas januzaj spent 6 months in Dortmund and didn't have any effect on their season good or bad.
Pogba seems to have had a lot of self belief and determination that januzaj seems to lack. Sure many on here were critiscizing him too but he quickly proved that he was right. Januzaj hasn't whether it's here or in Dortmund.
The point is that he's been given chances with us, and by all accounts it was his choice he went to Dortmund last summer when he was advised to go to a club where he'd actually play.
I'm not shocked he wants first team football, I am though shocked he expects it off us, he'd be well advised to forget his Moyes season, and be willing to start again, stop sulking, go to Sunderland and show what you're all about again.
He was given a privileged position amongst young players being talked up by SAF & Moyes and has some talent. His ego was stoked further by gaining the no 11 shirt and being placed on super wages. But he has blown his opportunity, because he seems to have too big an opinion of himself.
In my opinion, he has everything to prove. He should have taken demotion to reserves as a motivation. Instead he seems to have entitlement issues. I think he has been very badly advised by his family and agent. A shame. But right now, he's not deserving of a 1st team sqaud.
I think we should sell him overseas, preferable with a buy back, but if he does not agree to that, then just sell. I doubt he will get to world class status.
One of those eternal talents for whose transfers fans will eventually be thankful. He did impress me a couple of times during the era Moyse, but not overly and ever since then he produced nothing that would suggest he can be a great player. Somewhere on here the name Arnautovic popped up and I think the comparison works quite well: Outstanding technical attributes, creativity and the courage to keep on attempting to make great plays, but both showed no consistency and instead seemed to lack the willingness to fight for a spot instead of being given one.
Forgive me if I've missed any posts pertaining to his ego being an exponential problem, but if this kid is what he's been made out to be in terms of his attitude, it's only going to get worse if he turns out to be a top-class player, isn't it?
A potential cancer in the dressing room ready to kick up a fuss whenever he doesn't play is not what managers want to deal with. Furthermore, that will not be tolerated for anything but elite talent, which Januzaj has got a long, long way to go to get anywhere near.
If he is a genuinely problematic individual, you want to add sell-on clauses, not buy-backs - let him be someone else's problem whilst making a tidy profit.
A potential cancer in the dressing room ready to kick up a fuss whenever he doesn't play is not what managers want to deal with. Furthermore, that will not be tolerated for anything but elite talent, which Januzaj has got a long, long way to go to get anywhere near.
If he is a genuinely problematic individual, you want to add sell-on clauses, not buy-backs - let him be someone else's problem whilst making a tidy profit.
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