Players do change at times and we can add both sell on and buy back clauses
Adnan Januzaj Exit Speculation
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Players do change at times and we can add both sell on and buy back clauses
He had his chance and fecked it up. Get rid.
And the chances of us then trying to buy them back are even slimmer. Plus Pogba chose to leave us we did not sell him so using him as an example in these situation does not really work.
He was a decent player under Moyes but not to the levels some hype him up to be.
It's as if under Moyes he had a season comparable to say Alli.. when he wasn't half as good.
Baring in mind he's done sweet feckall for 2 seasons and seems to have a poor attitude.
Can be sold.
It's as if under Moyes he had a season comparable to say Alli.. when he wasn't half as good.
Baring in mind he's done sweet feckall for 2 seasons and seems to have a poor attitude.
Can be sold.
It's lazy journalism they tried to make an issue with Martial and now using the same line with Adnan.
Reminds me of the one year the press ran with about 15 stories of different players falling out with SAF and we're going to be transferred that summer.
Do we need to replace him though? We've got Mkhitaryan (great), Martial (great), Lingard (squad player), Depay (meah) and Young (meah)
He should be showed the door in my opinion. Talent is worth nothing without the right application and attitude. Look at Ronaldo and Quaresma.
adnan, adnan... go to sunderland, get some minutes under a manager who rates you and prove yourself. you never ever make it, ask david beckham that. even at 30+ he had to prove himself at real madrid when he had six months left on his contract, was frozen out but forced his way back in to capello's plans and both team and player thrived as a result. oh, and he got back in the england squad.
if beckham had to prove himself at 30, januzaj needs to prove himself at 21.
if beckham had to prove himself at 30, januzaj needs to prove himself at 21.
Yes, they can also have attitudes that get worse with elevated status.
I thought it was either or? When has a player had both a sell-on and a buy back clause inserted into a single contract?
I am no expert in football contracts but I guess we can add both clauses if we wanted.
The turning point in his career was when he wasted the chance to prove himself at Borussia Dortmund.
He was good for the first half of the Moyes season, for the last 2.5 years he's been uninspiring and mostly poor.
This little shit thinks he's the business.
You can have all the talent in the world but a terrible attitude and work ethic will get you nowhere. He's entitled to feck all cause he's done feck all so far. Get rid of this parasite.
You can have all the talent in the world but a terrible attitude and work ethic will get you nowhere. He's entitled to feck all cause he's done feck all so far. Get rid of this parasite.
I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but this was 100% what was said about pogba on here some time ago. We need to stop with this attitiude BS about young players. If you think Januzaj is not good enough then fine but if he's good enough then some paper talk should never be what should stop us.
Why does everyone believe all this shit in the media about Adnan?
He wants to play and being made train with the reserves at his age and reputation would grate with anyone.
Hopefully he goes to Sunderland and has a great season.
I still believe he has the quality to make it here.
Fcuk the biased corrupt lying media.
He wants to play and being made train with the reserves at his age and reputation would grate with anyone.
Hopefully he goes to Sunderland and has a great season.
I still believe he has the quality to make it here.
Fcuk the biased corrupt lying media.
Lovely post
Come on Slevs, stop sitting on the fence, tell us how you really feel!
I like Januzaj, but it seems more and more that he does have an attitude problem and a massive chip on his shoulder.
The attitude is based on their development not just the whole reserve dressing room thing
Pogba for all his faults kept trying and worked hard even after having a good debut season. He got the 10 jersey in his later seasons and even then he never believed that he made it. Whereas januzaj after his good(ish) debut season barely kicked on. Pogba earned more chances whereas januzaj seemingly didn't.
This news about Januzaj refusing to use the reserves dressing room in training shows exactly why he is nowhere near the first team. He has all the ability in the world, but his attitude seems to have become a big problem. He has proven nothing in footballing terms to have that kind of attitude. If he had an IQ in the double digits, then he would not have pissed off 3 managers in such a short amount of time.
He has done feck all over past 2 seasons and he was been overhyped in his first anyway (skillful but lots of flaws), do not want. Just sell him and everyone will be happy.
He should go on loan and prove himself - if there is still no place for him he'll have better options than Sunderland! Also if the AC Milan rumours are true that's a good option - i doubt they wll want to buy given they are still in mid-transition wrt ownership. Same thing - loan for ayear then we'll see i he has a place or should be sold. These 2 years under van Gaal has been a car crash for him wrt chances and loans - given Mourinho's desire to not have a bloated squad of more than 26 and we already have several who play where he does I can understand why he's being loaned. Humiliation is extreme and just sounds like his agent jockeying into a bargaining position. He hasn't shown the mentality (yet) so I wouldn't think this will necessarily be Pogba 2.0 but we shouldn't sell him yet due to his age and the fact he has talent still. He wants games so he should go out, but we shouldn't sell yet.
There is always a fallout from a Mourinho entrance to a big club.
His work ethic is ferocious and some players, who he doesn't fancy, are simply expendable.
I think Januzaj - and Bastian for that matter - will be excellent players for different teams this year.
They still have so much to offer.
As for Jose, he's had such an impressive start to our club (even though we've hardly kicked a ball yet) that we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Of course, if he persists with the Wayne experiment then serious questions have to be asked. For now, it's still a lenghty honeymoon period - which'll probably last till the first defeat.
His work ethic is ferocious and some players, who he doesn't fancy, are simply expendable.
I think Januzaj - and Bastian for that matter - will be excellent players for different teams this year.
They still have so much to offer.
As for Jose, he's had such an impressive start to our club (even though we've hardly kicked a ball yet) that we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Of course, if he persists with the Wayne experiment then serious questions have to be asked. For now, it's still a lenghty honeymoon period - which'll probably last till the first defeat.
"Attitude BS" It's hardly that when so many coaches say the same thing. All Pogba wanted to do is play. He was impatient, but he didn't have this torrent of negativity surrounding his attitude, so the situations/players aren't alike.
I don't know what to think of Januzaj in terms of ability - haven't seen him play since Moyes and can only imagine he's worse for lack of playing time.
If what is being said about him is true, then he, as an individual, has a real problem on his hands, which could ultimately cost him in the long run.
Sorry but it's attitude bullshit. Tuchel has been the only one to talk about it -- even then he just seems mad that Adnan preferres United over Dortmund. There are no concrete quotes from any other manager.
There was nothing to be mad about. We signed him for a one season deal without a buy clause. It was clear from the start that Januzaj would leave the club again after the season. For us he was nothing but (very unexpensive) cover in case of injuries (which we ultimatively did not need) and a place holder for either a premanent signing or for our own academy prospects to mature enough to feature in the first squad. In the end two of our academy players developed faster than planned so we agreed to terminate Januzaj´s loan deal in the Winter and give them the playing time of the Belgian.
I honestly would not hold his underwhelming time for us against him as he never had a real chance to become established in the first place. He was not developed enough to force himself into the squad based on quality and ability and we had no incentive to develop him ourselves His biggest hope was an injury crisis in the offense, which did not happen.
Januzaj could not have chosen a worse club to develop even if he tried.
Yup. Pogba wasn't being impatient about not playing over '98 Scholes and Keane. He knew he should have been starting for us. I bet most of the posters who play here get annoyed in our terrible sunday leagues or wherever when we sit on the bench and a player we think is worse is preferred. I know I fecking hate it.
Pogba was proven right, too. He got a move, immediate playing time, developed very quickly and now is back in the United midfield with a starting spot, comically large wages and endorsement deals and the braggings rights of a world record transfer fee. He even got to skip the Van Gaal and Moyes eras.
Honestly he should probably be our Director of Football now that I write it all out.
Some of his runs reminds me so much of rashford. If we had both of them starting.. would be my dream!
First never follows. Thank you for your post.
I just don't get the fuss over Januzaj. We do tend to overhype our youngsters, sometimes deserved, but Adnan has been almost a constant disappointment as far as I'm concerned. He's got skills in his locker but so did Gabriel Obertan. I would say Sunderland is about Januzaj's level and I certainly don't think we'll have any regrets about letting him go.
Not the first time something has come out about his attitude in training...
Time for another club me thinks.
Time for another club me thinks.
I haven't thought that he was good enough for a long time. Just hasn't shown much of value in the last two years, and seems to have regressed.
All I've been ready is people shitting on Januzaj, he's this, he's that, he's shite now we got shiny new toy. I hate the negativity aimed at the lad from our own fans. It's nice to read a post that's the opposite and not getting sucked into media hype just because he's been left out of the first team squad.
Januzaj needs games, he needs his confidence back, the best thing for him and the right decision for him is to get him a loan where he can get exactly that.
Goodbye sweet prince
The club's stance here just doesn't make any sense. If these reports are true, it seems Adnan is intent on burning his bridges in the way that even Pogba didn't. If that's the case, why loan him when he doesn't want to be here at all? I honestly hope he uses this season to get his head out of his arse and get the latter into gear. Maybe we're hoping he uses this year to take stock and that the time away from the big time mellows him, and that after a year away, he appreciates what he has available to him. He has that right-sided attacker role ready and available for him. He could be the answer to that problem position, saving us 30m+ min. in the process, but only if he performs.
This is 100% true, Adnan has a lot of talent and although his attitude perhaps can be questioned in some ways the abuse he is getting is way over the top.
I believe his game has suffered through a lack of game time and he needs this regularly over the next year.
I know Moyes believes in him and I could see him thriving at Sunderland.
Jose putting him with the reserves just seems unnecessary as well.
Also I think Adnan is still growing into his body and has put on a lot of muscle in the last year. He seems a bit awkward and unbalanced when he plays right now when he is dribbling but I believe in time he will become a powerful and technical winger who we will regret selling if we do so.
Very disappointing turn of events with Januzaj, but he's basically done feck all since his breakthrough season under Moyes. Seems like his attitude is shit as well, which Jose can't really tolerate.
We can only speculate, but I think he thought he was a huge star way too early instead of using the great 2013/14 season as motivation to work even harder.
We can only speculate, but I think he thought he was a huge star way too early instead of using the great 2013/14 season as motivation to work even harder.
Steve Bates has very good contacts at United. His story was backed up by few other hacks, hence the degree of belief in this story. Well from my part anyway. Not to mention, it's not the first time his attitude has been pulled up. So there is an inclination to believe - no smoke with out fire and all that.
Also, it may 'grate' you to be placed in reserves, but it's unprofessional to come in your kit to training because you don't want to be seen changing with the u21's. It's outright petulant. BFS - a World Cup winner - I'm sure he's upset, but he is being professional about it. What's Januzaj's excuse?
I for one hope he fecks off ASAP, with no fecking buy back clause mumbo jumbo. With an attitude problem like that we won't be exercising it.
He is only young, as he matures his attitude will improve.
We will regret selling him if we do so.
Praying he only goes on loan.
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