Would be great to use on Fifa with United, good pace and agility.
Other than that.. why are we signing him really?
Other than that.. why are we signing him really?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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He wouldnt make any difference because if I recall we didnt win a single corner. If we won 3 or 4 corners Young could actually make a difference against Barcelona because thats Barcelona's weakest area.
I dont think it justifies signing him though
Europe is never secondary, but what difference does it make? To have a better chance of winning in Europe we need to do the same thing as to win in England, make the team stronger.
I'll do a Kermit.
Lads just talking to #mufc doctor back in Manchester and said Ashley Young had medical in Manchester on Friday!
Lads just talking to #mufc doctor back in Manchester and said Ashley Young had medical in Manchester on Friday!
Is it worth digging up the thread for when we signed Valencia? What were people saying when we signed Yorke?
He is not being bought for no reason.
He is not being bought for no reason.
Good squad player. Will stop the need to ask Giggs or Rooney to play wide left anymore.
Mr.Mujac is a reliable poster, I don't think he would lie.
Has anyone stopped to think that maybe Fergie and the coaching staff believe they can make him a lot better player than he is already.
Valencia was to fill the position that Ronaldo had. Young is seemingly coming to add to the squad which is odd as there is no position to replace and he's not as good as our two main wingers.
How much improving as a player can you do at 26? It seems a bit older than the players we've brought in to let them settle and turn into quality players.
Most people seem to want him at United, then as with every transfer people will also complain.
He's a good signing, hope we get him next week, and we are done as early as possible with getting the players Fergie wants.
He's a good signing, hope we get him next week, and we are done as early as possible with getting the players Fergie wants.
Why is that odd? Nothing wrong with making our squad stronger. When Valencia was out Nani was our only fit out and out winger. He's a good player who can play on either flank or off the striker. Very useful.
He can play through the middle and most likely will be.
Unfussed.
I think the idea is to have someone that can play the no10 whenever Rooney is having a rest/injured/is playing up top, but who can play wide most of the time.
I think the idea is to have someone that can play the no10 whenever Rooney is having a rest/injured/is playing up top, but who can play wide most of the time.
In place of who? We have an excellent squad as shown by our bench last night (better than Barca's bench) but it's our best XI which needs improving. Young would be a good squad player but wouldn't improve our XI, whether he came in on the wing or through the middle.
Yep, I reckon it's not a situation Fergie would like to repeat, hence the signing.
Has getting so dominated by Barcelona made anyone else think differently about who we are going to sign for United?
I mean, prior to that match I always maintained that Young would be a good signing - pacy, flair, good crosser...I really think he would step up his game and become a very good player for United a la Valencia.
But, having watched the game last night, all I can think is the it's not good enough. The improvement we would get from signing Young does not justify the expense, and it does not improve us enough - Nani, Valencia and Park are three players who are better than Young, and all 3 offer something different.
I don't know, he'd be a good signing...but not good enough to be on a first eleven against Barcelona in the Champions League Final...or, at least not any improvement on who we would already send out for such a match - so why sign him ?
I mean, prior to that match I always maintained that Young would be a good signing - pacy, flair, good crosser...I really think he would step up his game and become a very good player for United a la Valencia.
But, having watched the game last night, all I can think is the it's not good enough. The improvement we would get from signing Young does not justify the expense, and it does not improve us enough - Nani, Valencia and Park are three players who are better than Young, and all 3 offer something different.
I don't know, he'd be a good signing...but not good enough to be on a first eleven against Barcelona in the Champions League Final...or, at least not any improvement on who we would already send out for such a match - so why sign him ?
It's a squad game. He doesn't have to start every single one. We need to remind ourselves Giggs is 37 and Scholes may call it a day.
But at the end of the day we just don't know, the big man does.
To be fair, that's from MUJAC, who I'd call pretty reliable
MUJAC has been way off before
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/qatar-bo...mufc-takeover-316475/index39.html#post9440543
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/qatar-bo...mufc-takeover-316475/index39.html#post9440543
Is that the MUJAC who posts on the CAFE?
I'd have him down as very reliable bearing in mind his obvious knowledge of the youth set up. Not as reliable as Yolkie but still in a good source
Is that the MUJAC who posts on the CAFE?
I'd have him down as very reliable bearing in mind his obvious knowledge of the youth set up. Not as reliable as Yolkie but still in a good source
Yep that's him.
And that Qatar thing shouldn't be counted, he was only relaying what Stewards told to him.
Well if he was having a medical Friday then the deal should be announced imminently so we will now for sure in the next couple of weeks.
Not sure what I think of United signing Young. He's good, no doubt, but I don't know if he is needed. There are the obvious benefits of giving us more squad depth, a versatile English player and a much needed free kick/corner specialist but the centre of the park should be the priority and this deal would marginalise Cleverley and Welbeck abit(similarly versatile players).
Good sign that we are doing business early in the summer mind you.
Leving football now, there's one more thing I want much more Young than Sanchez or any other latino. Neville, Hargreaves, Owen and Scholes are all probably finished at United, I don't really want us to become Arsenal.
I think he'll be a good signing mate. I think we should have 4 wingers fighting for winger spots, the lack of backup at wings was a main reason why Nani lost his form a little bit tbh, he played a bucket-loads which made him tire in the last stage of the season.
Plus Young is highly versatile, can play centrally in that 4-5-1 formation we like to use, takes a decent set piece plus and just like Valencia will thrive playing with a better team. I think he will be a cracking signing tbh.
On balance, I agree mate. Added this to my original post just now
"There are the obvious benefits of giving us more squad depth, a versatile English player and a much needed free kick/corner specialist but the centre of the park should be the priority and this deal would marginalise Cleverley and Welbeck abit(similarly versatile players).
Good sign that we are doing business early in the summer mind you."
I also agree that the stage of the season when Valencia and Park were unavailable effected the performance of the team a fair bit.
Absolutely. Plus he will be relatively cheap as compared to the other players which will enable us to spend more on the idea we desperately need recruitments for i.e Midfield.
If the United backroom staff are convinced that they can improve Young as they did with Ronaldo, Nani and Valencia just to mention a few, then you might be wrong
£14million for a young and English PL-proven player is a great piece of business, more so when you consider his versatility and set piece capabilities - something we desperately need.
Compare it to £35million for Andy Carroll, and you've got a bargain.
Compare it to £35million for Andy Carroll, and you've got a bargain.
Agreed. As KM also says this should free up funds to go for the target(s) Fergie may well want in the centre of the park and as you point out, our backroom staff normally improve the players we sign. I'm also a huge fan of getting our transfer business done as early as possible.
Signs that this might be our biggest summer spree since 2007 with the news of De Gea and Young and it is just about needed as I am convinced we will sign at least one central midfielder.
Yeah, I've said before that Young wouldn't be my winger of choice but if it frees us up to bring in a top drawer centre midfieder then I'll be more than happy. He's a very good player in truth.
He'll be a good signing my only concern is if it's t the expense of other funds being made available for central midfield.
You can make the argument that he'd be the third best winger on our books, but you could also make the argument that he'd be the most effective left winger. He also upgrades our set pieces which have been gash for some time now. If we're getting him on the cheap, I think it's a good signing.
Just one point to note, for everyone saying he would make no difference in getting closer to Barca, their equivalent to Young would be Afellay and I don't think there is a huge difference in quality between the two. Nor is their a massive difference between our set of wingers(if you count Villa and Pedro as wingers for the purposes of the comparison, I know they are really forwards) and their complement.
The big difference between the two is the quality of the central midfielders and the fact they have the best player in the world as one of their forward players. The way we close the gap is buy buying better quality in the middle of the park but improving the quality of our squad certainly helps in a marginal way. It also helps us domestically and winning the league and the domestic cups should ALWAYS been a big priority.
The big difference between the two is the quality of the central midfielders and the fact they have the best player in the world as one of their forward players. The way we close the gap is buy buying better quality in the middle of the park but improving the quality of our squad certainly helps in a marginal way. It also helps us domestically and winning the league and the domestic cups should ALWAYS been a big priority.
Well duh
Your missing the point which is addressed at posters saying that signing Young does not help bring us closer to Barca. When it gives us an option the equivalent of their back up it helps as well as having incidental benefits with our squad depth for the league. The lack of wide players was something which cost us last season when Valencia was out and Fergie's using Park and Giggs in different roles these days.
The fact that we are after Young does not mean we are not after central midfielders as well, so to say this signing does not help us level the gap with Barca when it improves our squad, is incorrect IMO. We are still going to target central midfield.
Why you bothered with replying with a sarcy two liner if the point was so obvious to a genius such as yourself, I have no idea. It's your time to waste I suppose.
Probably not, but the added attacking prowess does put a bigger gap between us and the smaller and mid-table sides, which is equally important. You don't win the title by building a squad to beat a team that plays in a different league.
The £14million for him will be made back with our summer departures IMO.
Young is a fine signing imo.
The big issue is CM, we need a proper world class talent there.
The big issue is CM, we need a proper world class talent there.
Ronaldo was 18, Nani was 20 and Valencia was 23 when United signed them. Young is 25 so will obviously be harder to improve as he isn't a young lad anymore.
My opinion is that he is a good player who will improve the squad and our chances in the league but if everyone is fit he'll be on the bench at best. There are a few more important positions we need strengthening but won't be able to formulate an opinion on the summer's deals until the window closes. If the starting XI is strengthened to aid our CL challenge and Young adds to that to improve the quality of the squad then fine. Either way, I'll get behind anyone and give a clean slate to whoever we sign. Apart from Charlie Adam / Parker
Unless Berbatov leaves, which looks unlikely, who are we going to sell to bring in any money? Aren't those leaving going on a free or retiring?
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