A Tribute to Roy Hodgson - his LFC legacy in quotes

Let's just judge them from their results in their time in charge of Liverpool. We'll keep a running tally as the season goes on.

First 8 games in charge:

Hodgson 5-2-1

Dalglish -3-2-3
 
we didn't support roy 'to the hilt'. He got the tentative support of a new manager without an impressive track record. Which is to say, most were hoping to see him do well, but he would need some results before actually having his name sung.

There is quite a gap from there to 'liverpool fans were actively against him from day one'.
 
B9 said:
we didn't support roy 'to the hilt'. He got the tentative support of a new manager without an impressive track record. Which is to say, most were hoping to see him do well, but he would need some results before actually having his name sung.

There is quite a gap from there to 'liverpool fans were actively against him from day one'.
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I'm not sure what Baldwin wants?

for Liverpool fans to sing his name to the high heavens like he does daily?

what ever happened to earning respect?
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Are you an oracle or something?

You seem to think that simply disagreeing with someone is enough to win the argument for you.

Where's the evidence to back up your certainty that you all supported Hodgson to the hilt?
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I am not really here to 'win' arguments, BL.

Back Hodgson to the hilt? Not sure I ever said that. The general reaction to his appointment was one of caution, not one of animosity or hostility as is being touted here.

My experience is my reality and yours is obviously different. But you can't argue with mine.
 
Boss said:
You don't throw anything at him, that's the problem, you support him so much you even wanted Pool to win while he was in charge.

Try to be objective when it comes to your man.
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And there were pool supporters on here stating they wanted Roy to lose.

Huh.
 
B9 said:
we didn't support roy 'to the hilt'. He got the tentative support of a new manager without an impressive track record. Which is to say, most were hoping to see him do well, but he would need some results before actually having his name sung.

There is quite a gap from there to 'liverpool fans were actively against him from day one'.
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Do you find Dalgish's managerial track record impressive?

At anywhere other than Liverpool, he'd have been treated with far more caution than Hodgson.
 
Boss said:
You don't throw anything at him, that's the problem, you support him so much you even wanted Pool to win while he was in charge.

Try to be objective when it comes to your man.
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Are you happier now that King Kenny is back?

Oh, and do show me where I 'even wanted Pool to win' when he was in charge.
 
Sam.G said:
hehe.

Of course there was but conveniently you have no idea who or when.

You've come up short here, AR. Well short.
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Yes, you got me. It never happened then. Not sure why I don't keep a record of minutes and comments made.

:wenger:
 
It is poor form to use a post to support your argument, then be too lazy to look back and actually find it. Anyone could make a claim like that and then say 'I can't be arsed looking through old threads'.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
Yes, you got me. It never happened then. Not sure why I don't keep a record of minutes and comments made.

:wenger:
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I know you support Fulham and Manchester United and all, but is your affection for Roy so deep that you can just make baseless accusations with no evidence?

Surely you can find something?




Anything?!


ONE POST?!?!
 
kietotheworld said:
It is poor form to use a post to support your argument, then be too lazy to look back and actually find it. Anyone could make a claim like that and then say 'I can't be arsed looking through old threads'.
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Indeed, pretty pathetic in my opinion...


but then again so is supporting 2 clubs in the same league.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Do you find Dalgish's managerial track record impressive?

At anywhere other than Liverpool, he'd have been treated with far more caution than Hodgson.
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:lol:

Apart from having won more league titles than Wenger, being the manager with the best win record in our history, assembling one of the best attacking sides the country has ever seen, he was also our best ever player.

No one, except maybe Paisley, has earned the support and adoration he gets from the fans more than Dalglish. Of course he was going to have his name fecking song. He's the biggest legend alive associated with the club and has been at heart of most of our major triumphs over the years as player and manager.
 
B9 said:
:lol:

Apart from having won more league titles than Wenger, being the manager with the best win record in our history, assembling one of the best attacking sides the country has ever seen, he was also our best ever player.

No one, except maybe Paisley, has earned the support and adoration he gets from the fans more than Dalglish. Of course he was going to have his name fecking song. He's the biggest legend alive associated with the club and has been at heart of most of our major triumphs over the years as player and manager.
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surely one of the stupidest questions ever asked on here.
 
Boss said:
I know you support Fulham and Manchester United and all, but is your affection for Roy so deep that you can just make baseless accusations with no evidence?

Surely you can find something?

Anything?!

ONE POST?!?!
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Sure I can. I simply don't care enough.
 
M'n'M said:
How is it a non-question? Because you know the answer you have to give renders the rest of your post pointless?

Let me ask another which I have also failed to get an answer to.

How long should he have been given and at what cost?
And also, I assume you are equally as sympathetic with Rafa after his reign at Inter??
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As long as it took to get you relegated of course.
 
Sam.G said:
How do the fans stop a manager from doing his job, FS? How does that work? Rip up his notes?

The players were behind him to begin with. Maybe they lost respect in the end due to the way he had them playing. Who knows, but Gerrard and Carragher in particular were enthusiastic about his appointment

He had a great opportunity at a great club and blew it. His apologists can (and do) blame the fans, the players or Benitez, but the real culprit is Roy himself. And deep down, he probably knows it. Well he should anyway.
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Attitude of fans can negatively affect club morale - and helped give a bunch of underperforming players an ideal scapegoat in this case.
 
Boss said:
surely one of the stupidest questions ever asked on here.
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Really? It's stupid to assume more people outside Liverpool FC would have questioned Dalgish's appointment if it had come over the summer than they would have done Hodgson's?

That really is news to me. Hodgson had guided Fulham through to the latter stages of a European competition and got them playing well in the league and was seen, at the time, as the obvious candidate to succeed Capello.

Dalglish had been out of the game for over a decade and failed at Newcastle and Celtic.

And yet me pointing out that a Dalglish appointment would have been questioned more than a Hodgson one anywhere outside Liverpool is apparently, in your very esteemed opinion, 'surely one of the stupidest questions ever asked on here'?

Righto.

B9 said:
:lol:

Apart from having won more league titles than Wenger, being the manager with the best win record in our history, assembling one of the best attacking sides the country has ever seen, he was also our best ever player.

No one, except maybe Paisley, has earned the support and adoration he gets from the fans more than Dalglish. Of course he was going to have his name fecking song. He's the biggest legend alive associated with the club and has been at heart of most of our major triumphs over the years as player and manager.
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We know all that, but his recent managerial career is at best very questionable. A lot of people outside Liverpool would question his record - he had Jack Walker's money at Blackburn and was rubbish at Newcastle and Celtic.

Unless you think - oh the irony - he wasn't give the time/resources at, say, Celtic?
 
Sam.G said:
I think it was Hodgson's tactics rather than the fans who undermined the players.
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Whereas I reckon the major dynamic was the fans and players undermining Hodgson. The team were collectively as poor as you had been for a long while and on their way down. You wanted a miracle-worker who would lie to you.
 
Sam.G said:
You're losing it, BL. The plot that is, not the argument.
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Not at all. You constantly go around making unsubstantiated oracle-like statements and when you're called up on it you assume the high ground and say 'I'm not here to 'win' arguments'.

I think it's fair enough to point it out when you then proceed to make a petty point in the hope of 'winning' an argument not twenty posts later.
 
Boss said:
Indeed, pretty pathetic in my opinion...
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Excellent news. Off you toddle then - go and find a post to back up your earlier claim I 'even wanted Liverpool to win' under Hodgson.

Boss said:
but then again so is supporting 2 clubs in the same league.
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Why have you deemed that pathetic? AR's from the States and has an interest in 2 teams in the PL - a foreign league for him. Seems perfectly rational to me.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Not at all. You constantly go around making unsubstantiated oracle-like statements and when you're called up on it you assume the high ground and say 'I'm not here to 'win' arguments'.

I think it's fair enough to point it out when you then proceed to make a petty point in the hope of 'winning' an argument not twenty posts later.
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Whatever makes you happy, BL.
 
Sam.G said:
I think it was Hodgson's tactics rather than the fans who undermined the players.
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Yes, because it's really that simple isn't it?

Jesus, it's like the bloody Floella Benjamin school of football with you at the moment. That's a bloody playschool analysis of what went on in your club there.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Yes, because it's really that simple isn't it?
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No, it's not.

But the fact someone here is trying to blame the fans for Hodgson's failures is a little laughable.

But as I said to him and, as I said yesterday to you, am happy to disagree over this.
 
Sam.G said:
No, it's not.

But the fact someone here is trying to blame the fans for Hodgson's failures is a little laughable.

But as I said to him and, as I said yesterday to you, am happy to disagree over this.
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Don't get above yourselves though ;) - you were only a contributory factor, not the sole cause.
 
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