A Tribute to Roy Hodgson - his LFC legacy in quotes

BaldwinLegend said:
Excellent news. Off you toddle then - go and find a post to back up your earlier claim I 'even wanted Liverpool to win' under Hodgson.



Why have you deemed that pathetic? AR's from the States and has an interest in 2 teams in the PL - a foreign league for him. Seems perfectly rational to me.
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It would seem perfectly rational to you to support two teams in the same league wouldn't it? First you claim the rivalry between us and Pool is brainless and now it's ok to support 2 teams in the same league in your book?

and what assumption are you trying to make about our supporters from the States?



on the wanting Liverpool to win

did you not state it would be bad for Roy to be sacked because English managers don't get chances at top English clubs in the Prem.

do you know what a conflict of interest is?
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Yes, because it's really that simple isn't it?

Jesus, it's like the bloody Floella Benjamin school of football with you at the moment. That's a bloody playschool analysis of what went on in your club there.
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coming from the lad blaming some of Roy's colossal flop on the treatment from the fans, constantly talking about everything but the actual man himself and where he went wrong. Not surprising since he's perfect in your eyes

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playschool analysis indeed.
 
I certainly agree that Dalglish's failures at Celtic and Newcastle are probably more relevant on his CV than his success with the fantastic team he inherited at Liverpool and the initial bankrolled success at Blackburn.

That said, he's pretty suitable as a caretaker. I just think Liverpool would be wise to look for a new manager in the summer.
 
Oh Christ. Let it go.

Supporting United and Fulham is no different than supporting United and Scunthorpe. They are never, ever, ever going to be competing for the same spot in the league. Ever. Ever. Ever.

But hold on to it. Hold on tight. Don't ever let it go.

What a fecking spaz.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
Oh Christ. Let it go.

Supporting United and Fulham is no different than supporting United and Scunthorpe. They are never, ever, ever going to be competing for the same spot in the league. Ever. Ever. Ever.

But hold on to it. Hold on tight. Don't ever let it go.

What a fecking spaz.
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whatever works for you mate


congrats

it's not quite the same as supporting United and Scunthorpe, actually it couldn't be more different, that was a very stupid comparison

these two clubs are in the same league for one and we haven't had the best luck in our travels to craven cottage and to think you're sitting there cheering for Fulham *vomits*

but meh
 
Boss said:
whatever works for you mate


congrats

it's not quite the same as supporting United and Scunthorpe, actually it couldn't be more different, that was a very stupid comparison

these two clubs are in the same league for one and we haven't had the best luck in our travels to craven cottage and to think you're sitting there cheering for Fulham *vomits*

but meh
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Why's it not quite the same? Fulham were two divisions down when I started supporting United. Scunthorpe are only one division down at present. I have Morecambe as a second team (since I moved near there 20 years or so ago) but if one day they ever got promoted to the same division as us I'd still want United to beat them in the head to heads. I think it's perfectly normal to have a second team, althouygh something like supporting United and Liverpool would be a real fecked up situation (I actually met someone once who did - wierdo!).
 
I do sometimes get the feeling that poor old Boss hasn't got much going on in his life.

I still wouldn't mind seeing a quote where I implicitly state I'd like to see Liverpool win under Hodgson, otherwise I'll chalk that up as another retard moment from him.

Come on - you said yourself it's 'pretty pathetic' to cite a post from a player and then be too 'lazy' to go look for it.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
I do sometimes get the feeling that poor old Boss hasn't got much going on in his life.

I still wouldn't mind seeing a quote where I implicitly state I'd like to see Liverpool win under Hodgson, otherwise I'll chalk that up as another retard moment from him.

Come on - you said yourself it's 'pretty pathetic' to cite a post from a player and then be too 'lazy' to go look for it.
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:lol: another retarded moment? the irony!

I have alot more going on in my life than you brad stalking, wannabe failed english teacher

and you implied it, I've shown you why, it's you who chooses not to acknowledge it or you're probably too dimwitted to understand the concept of conflict of interests

This was said when Roy was in charge of Liverpool
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/roy-hodgson-309052/index37.html


BaldwinLegend said:
Again, misrepresenting people's views.

For the umpteenth time - wanting football managers to be given a fair chance at a club, and wanting an Englishman to buck the trend and do well at a top club does not equal being a Liverpool supporter.

Are you really this thick?
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So anyway, break this down for me, because I don't believe you can

How can you want Roy to do well at Liverpool in your own words Baldwin and want Liverpool to do badly?

Do you see how these interests conflict?

It doesn't add up to me, you explain it, because to want Roy to do well at Pool you HAVE to want liverpool to get some good results, no? isn't that some some of ...support?

Am I right?

or Am I wrong?

If I'm wrong I'll be intersted to know why, untill then the accusation stands
 
Crustanoid said:
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Why's it not quite the same? Fulham were two divisions down when I started supporting United. Scunthorpe are only one division down at present. I have Morecambe as a second team (since I moved near there 20 years or so ago) but if one day they ever got promoted to the same division as us I'd still want United to beat them in the head to heads. I think it's perfectly normal to have a second team, althouygh something like supporting United and Liverpool would be a real fecked up situation (I actually met someone once who did - wierdo!).
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huh, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate

Redwood supports Fulham and manchester united, two teams in the same league, a team where we go head to head at the cottage we struggle to gain points, I was just trying to discern who he cheers when they play each other

is it normal to support two teams in the same league? I didn't know that? Different leagues, yes, I see it all the time but rarely the same.

I've already congratulated redwood so more power to him
AlwaysRedwood said:
:lol:

Jesus, at least go with something clever.
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I'm not sure what i'm supposed to go with?:confused:


it's an honest question

you support fulham and united, so did you cheer when Nani missed the penalty?

if you don't want to answer, then fine
 
Boss said:
huh, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate

Redwood supports Fulham and manchester united, two teams in the same league, a team where we go head to head at the cottage we struggle to gain points, I was just trying to discern who he cheers when they play each other

is it normal to support two teams in the same league? I didn't know that? Different leagues, yes, I see it all the time but rarely the same.

I've already congratulated redwood so more power to him


I'm not sure what i'm supposed to go with?:confused:


it's an honest question

you support fulham and united, so did you cheer when Nani missed the penalty?

if you don't want to answer, then fine
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Really, Boss, who actually gives a feck? He can support who he likes and good on him.

Now back to Hodgson. How bad was he? Awful.
 
Boss said:
huh, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate

Redwood supports Fulham and manchester united, two teams in the same league, a team where we go head to head at the cottage we struggle to gain points, I was just trying to discern who he cheers when they play each other

is it normal to support two teams in the same league? I didn't know that? Different leagues, yes, I see it all the time but rarely the same.

I've already congratulated redwood so more power to him


I'm not sure what i'm supposed to go with?:confused:


it's an honest question

you support fulham and united, so did you cheer when Nani missed the penalty?

if you don't want to answer, then fine
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As I've stated before, the thread is not about me. If you desperately need answers to shit that has nothing to do with you, I'm happy to answer your questions in a DM.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Do you find Dalgish's managerial track record impressive?
As a manager, he had one bad season when Newcastle finished in 13th place in his one, & only, full season at the club (1997/1998). He was sacked after drawing the first 2 games of the following season. Only a crackpot club like Newcastle would get rid of a guy that had won 4 league titles over the previous few years - Brian Clough walked out of Derby County after winning the league in 1972. He went onto managing Brighton in the old 3rd division, winning just 12 out of 32 games. They finished the season in 19th place. Yet 2 years later, Cloughie had won the league again with Derby. & 3 years after that, he'd done it again with Forest. So if anyone was deserving of time & patience. Given his record of success at Anfield & Blackburn. Kenny should have had a lot more backing than he did with the Geordies.

Any manager that wins league titles with 2 different clubs, in one of the toughest leagues in the world, probably knows a thing or two about the game. Especially when his sides were noted for their good football.

There's that old saying: If it looks like a duck. Walks like a duck. & quacks like a duck. Then it's probably a duck - People point the finger at Liverpool fans for not giving Hodgson more time. But his managerial record shows he doesn't stick around for too long anyway. If he does well at a club, he uses it as a leverage for something bigger & better. If he fails, then he lowers his sights & starts all over again. He's never built anything meaningful, or left a positive legacy, at any of the clubs he's managed. He's a stop-gap man who took over a club that needed rebuilding, not saving from relegation. & just like a 'duck' treads water to stay afloat. That's what he spent most of his time doing at Anfield.
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I can see Steve McLaren being the next big thing on here. Has managed a national team. Took an unfancied side to the Europa Cup final. Had success in a foreign league.

I'm just praying that it's me defending him against the angry regulars on The Caf who feel he wasn't good enough to succeed Sir Alex at OT.
 
McClaren >Roy

I'll be eager to know why not

winning the dutch leage with a team that has never won it before > winning the swedish and danish league


and he got boro to the Uefa cup final who were alot shiter than fulham

hehe

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Boss said:
:lol: another retarded moment? the irony!

I have alot more going on in my life than you brad stalking, wannabe failed english teacher

and you implied it, I've shown you why, it's you who chooses not to acknowledge it or you're probably too dimwitted to understand the concept of conflict of interests

This was said when Roy was in charge of Liverpool
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/roy-hodgson-309052/index37.html




So anyway, break this down for me, because I don't believe you can

How can you want Roy to do well at Liverpool in your own words Baldwin and want Liverpool to do badly?

Do you see how these interests conflict?

It doesn't add up to me, you explain it, because to want Roy to do well at Pool you HAVE to want liverpool to get some good results, no? isn't that some some of ...support?

Am I right?

or Am I wrong?

If I'm wrong I'll be intersted to know why, untill then the accusation stands
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The very post you quoted featured me saying that I was tired then of your attempts to miscontrue my posts and that I'd explain it again for the 'umpteenth' time for you then. And I still haven't got through!

I'm for British managers being given jobs at PL clubs. For example - I'd prefer to see, say, David Moyes being given the Chelsea job over Ancelotti who I don't think is more capable than Moyes. This doesn't mean I want Chelsea to win, nor did I specifically want Liverpool to win under Hodgson and indeed I never specifically said this. I have only ever said I'd like to see British managers given chances and I hope they'd do well enough to stay in the job longer than say, Hodgson, Hughes, Allardyce or Ince have in the last couple of years.

I'd say the overwhelming majority of people involved with football - managers, players, fans - would echo such sentiments but for some reason it seems beyond you to get your head around it.


Boss said:
McClaren >Roy

I'll be eager to know why not

winning the dutch leage with a team that has never won it before > winning the swedish and danish league


and he got boro to the Uefa cup final who were alot shiter than fulham

hehe

:smirk:
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Yeah, hehe. I can see you're enjoying yourself. McClaren was just fired by Wolfsburg with their Director of Football saying, publically, that the club had 'lost their belief in him'.

The 'Boro team McLaren led had had the benefit of far greater sustained financial input in addition to the benefits of a long term youth policy.

I'd argue that Hodgson's CV is easily and significantly better than McLaren's and the fact West Brom appointed him while declining to appoint McLaren perhaps reflects this. I'd certainly rate Hodgson's chances of PL employment as being far higher than McLaren's over the next few years.

Boss said:
huh, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick mate

Redwood supports Fulham and manchester united, two teams in the same league, a team where we go head to head at the cottage we struggle to gain points, I was just trying to discern who he cheers when they play each other

is it normal to support two teams in the same league? I didn't know that? Different leagues, yes, I see it all the time but rarely the same.

I've already congratulated redwood so more power to him


I'm not sure what i'm supposed to go with?:confused:


it's an honest question

you support fulham and united, so did you cheer when Nani missed the penalty?

if you don't want to answer, then fine
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Who the feck are you to tell people who and in what way they can follow, support or even follow the results of?

He's already explained it to you several times - he began an interest in Fulham as at the time they had several US players on their books. It's that simple - quit hounding someone who has already had the decency to explain himself, something he shouldn't have to do anyway.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
The very post you quoted featured me saying that I was tired then of your attempts to miscontrue my posts and that I'd explain it again for the 'umpteenth' time for you then. And I still haven't got through!

I'm for British managers being given jobs at PL clubs. For example - I'd prefer to see, say, David Moyes being given the Chelsea job over Ancelotti who I don't think is more capable than Moyes. This doesn't mean I want Chelsea to win, nor did I specifically want Liverpool to win under Hodgson and indeed I never specifically said this. I have only ever said I'd like to see British managers given chances and I hope they'd do well enough to stay in the job longer than say, Hodgson, Hughes, Allardyce or Ince have in the last couple of years.

I'd say the overwhelming majority of people involved with football - managers, players, fans - would echo such sentiments but for some reason it seems beyond you to get your head around it.
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It's like speaking to a toddler here

I like how you've added this part but unfortunately it changes nothing

this is a form of support, no matter which way you look at it, quite simply the obvious conflict of interests are yet to grasped by you but I guess such talk is way beyond your intelligence, I honestly can't simply this any further.

with regards to redwood, are you his mummy?

surely he can speak for himself

all I wanted to know is if he cheered when Nani missed the penalty. I've congratulated him on his support so it's pretty much a dead issue but feel free to keep bringing it up.

oh and the majority of United fans couldn't give a flying feck how well a Pool manager does, English or not
 
Boss said:
It's like speaking to a toddler here

I like how you've added this part but unfortunately it changes nothing

this is a form of support, no matter which way you look at it, quite simply the obvious conflict of interests are yet to grasped by you but I guess such talk is way beyond your intelligence

with regards to redwood, are you his mummy?

surely he can speak for himself

all I wanted to know is if he cheered when Nani missed the penalty. I've congratulated him on his support so it's pretty much a dead issue but feel free to keep bringing it up.

oh and the majority of United fans couldn't give a flying feck how well a Pool manager does, English or not
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I'm not talking about the majority of United fans though am I?

I get and have always got your conflict of interest idea - that it's apparently a conflict to support United but hope a British manager employed by a main rival doesn't get prematurely sacked.

Let's agree to disagree - I seem to be well capable of both supporting United and hoping that Brits are appointed and given fair chances at other clubs.

I'm no relation to AlwaysRedwood, maternal or otherwise, but I don't see why anyone should have the right to question how someone else chooses to follow football.
 
I taught Hodgson deserved a chance just like Ferguson did all them years ago, I also think Dalglish will be successful, despite what people say about the length of time he was out of the game.
 
United87 said:
I taught Hodgson deserved a chance just like Ferguson did all them years ago, I also think Dalglish will be successful, despite what people say about the length of time he was out of the game.
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How much of a chance?
 
United87 said:
I taught Hodgson deserved a chance just like Ferguson did all them years ago, I also think Dalglish will be successful, despite what people say about the length of time he was out of the game.
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Is that why he's so rubbish?
 
exactamundo and anyone who says there was no chance of that happening under Roy was either not watching us play or were using some kind of reverse mocker-tastic approach as it was definitely a possibility the way things were going.
 
Boss said:
with regards to redwood, are you his mummy?

surely he can speak for himself

all I wanted to know is if he cheered when Nani missed the penalty. I've congratulated him on his support so it's pretty much a dead issue but feel free to keep bringing it up.
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So, how old are you Boss?
 
Good ol' Boss. Same ol' "you must not be a United supporter" argument if you disagree with him.
 
Boss said:
.... the thread is not about me. If you desperately need answers to shit that has nothing to do with you, I'm happy to answer your questions in a DM.
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I thought it would take me longer.

But you did it in one post.

Now move on.
 
M'n'M said:
exactamundo and anyone who says there was no chance of that happening under Roy was either not watching us play or were using some kind of reverse mocker-tastic approach as it was definitely a possibility the way things were going.
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I don't think it would have gone that way, but the way it was going you could have finished bottom half.
 
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