Hodgson played 2 of those games against the Macedonian giants of Rabotnicki, remember.
A Tribute to Roy Hodgson - his LFC legacy in quotes
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Hodgson played 2 of those games against the Macedonian giants of Rabotnicki, remember.
But... but... Hodgson is such rubbish. Worst record in Liverpool history....
They'll probably say its because of the situation Hodgson himself created
Roy left the team demoralized after his rubbish tactics and playing key players out of position, Daglish had to pick up the pieces and immediately.....
We know you don't like Hodgson, but surely that's rubbish?
What about the overall good feeling about a club legend coming and rescuing a terrible season? New manager syndrome and all?
Not sure if you're being deliberately ironic but that's almost the exact same excuse you refused to allow anyone use about Hodgson's first 10 games in charge.
As an aside, does anyone else agree that Mereiles has been Liverpool's best player this season? So there's more to "Hodgson's legacy" than a load of quotes taken out of context.
Not under Roy who stupidly played him out of position, I didn't judge Roy immediately like people are Daglish
Roy left them near a relegation position, it's going to take alot more than new manager syndrome to lift these players who expect alot more from a club like Liverpool.
Roy didn't need an excuse for those ten games. The knives weren't out for him yet.
No. He's been a lot better under Kenny and though he has shown what he can do over the season it's been extremely sporadic. Also he is an utter fanny, which is quite the sin for a central midfielder.
Good player, hasn't been our best. That goes to Reina, despite his poor showing yesterday.
I assume all the Mancs are queuing up to defend Dalglish as they were Hodgson?
"The player's fault....the fan's fault.....Rafa's fault....the owner's fault...ad nauseum"
"The player's fault....the fan's fault.....Rafa's fault....the owner's fault...ad nauseum"
Then I guess it would be fair to assume that Scousers are queuing up to criticize Daglish as they were doing to Hodgson?
Why would the players or fans be to blame for the poor results under Dalgish?
The one thing he clearly has got going for him is unanimous support. Possibly the one and only thing. There's got to be a reason that no other manager in the modern game regularly plays 352.
The one thing he clearly has got going for him is unanimous support. Possibly the one and only thing. There's got to be a reason that no other manager in the modern game regularly plays 352.
I'm not criticising Dalglish personally and I haven't read or heard much criticism from others either.
Though, I wasn't criticising Hodgson after 10 games either. Soon after, mind. It soon became apparent how out of his depth he was.
why?
Daglish is a legend for Pool fans
Roy is a nobody.
Who do you think our fans would be more patient with and less critical of, a United legend or some random manager
But they were certainly hovering in anticipation of any slips/blunders.
I don't know mate, your team has just lost away matches to two of the poorest teams in the league, getting thoroughly outplayed in both. For all that King Kenny hype, your team haven't lived upto it....yet.
So who or what are we meant to be defending him from?
I guess if people were trying to say the entirety of Liverpool problems were his fault people would probably disagree.
I guess if people were trying to say the entirety of Liverpool problems were his fault people would probably disagree.
then again it's not like they've lost to Northampton at home
Well that's a large part of 'the point' isn't it? All interpretations of Dalglish's performance by Scousers are affected by his status - they are seeing things through red spectacles.
Which means that, when they say how much better the team are now and how that shows how shit Woy was, they are actually only contrasting their King Kenny worship to their dislike of 'Woy's wealism' - and not really appraising the team effectively.
well yes, but realistically and objectively Roy was complete shite and it's too early to judge Daglish.
I think you might be a little confused, Karan, with regard to Liverpool's results but I agree with the general premise.
It was never going to be a quick fix given the state the club was in when Dalglish took over. Results like this are going to happen (and keep happening) until certain areas of the first team are addressed.
But, for me anyway, there is lot more to be positive about under Kenny than under Roy.
Absolutely!
This isn't Dalglish's fault any more than it was Hodgson's. Both have inherited a really ordinary set of players which isn't capable of producing consistently good results or performances.
no, Pool's sqaud wasn't that Shite and Roy should have done alot better in the time he had
It's all about perspective. If you'd have told me a couple of months ago that we'd lose 3-1 to West Ham, & be 6th in the table. I'd have had difficulty believing it. If you'd have told that Roy Hodgson would have been responsible for the turnaround. I'd have had you certified.
We lost, deservedly, to a side battling for it's Premiership survival. Spurs lost to Blackpool a few days ago by a similar scoreline. Whilst United were beaten by Wolves a couple of weeks ago - It would be just like us to do something daft & win next Sunday.
We lost, deservedly, to a side battling for it's Premiership survival. Spurs lost to Blackpool a few days ago by a similar scoreline. Whilst United were beaten by Wolves a couple of weeks ago - It would be just like us to do something daft & win next Sunday.
Their squad is crap Boss what are you on about
no it isn't, far from it.
Oh right. Care to back that up?
how?
That's your opinion - but let's look at the 'fachts'...
'Poo were shite under Woy.
'Poo had become pretty shite under Rafa.
Given 'new manager bounce' and the supposed feel-good factor of a legend, 'poo still aren't much better.
What's the consistent factor - they are shite - under 3 managers - which suggests the consistent crapness of the team & squad is somewhat resistant to the effects of managers.
So, when you add the anti-Woy feeling affecting the squad, you have to ask how much affect Woy was allowed to have - and how much their crap performances under him was actually down to him.
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That's not the whole story obviously - but it's the necessary corrective to the scousers' desperate need to blame Woy for their ills.
It was that shite(wasn't helped by Konchesky and Poulsen's signings tbh), Hodgson's already tough job was made more difficult by the couldn't be arsed attitude of Fernando Torres. Daglish will be benefited by the fact that Torres's replacement might not be of the same quality but atleast they will be more motivated and hungry to perform.
FWIW- I don't think Hodgson is a great manager, but then neither is Daglish whom the Liverpool fans have given the status of "Messiah".
oh I dunno maybe tell me who the proven quality players outside their starting 11 are
Extreme speculation and if you're argument is based on that, your argument is a poor and weak one.
The reason Roy was out of his depth was in 35 years of management he had basically achieved nothing of note.
Never should have got the gig. Glad he only got six months.
You can keep trotting this stuff out and it'll keep coming across as biased, incorrect and frankly pretty worthless.
As a United fan I'd far rather have a manager who had a recent CV of some substance than someone who had been out of the game for over a decade and whose last two appointments had ended in abject failure.
Liverpool fans can say what they like but I bet they're starting to get a little bit worried beneath all the 'passion' and bluster for their legend - I wonder how long support will last for Dalglish if, in reality, he gets no better results than Hodgson did. So far, they're worse.
all I've said is fans are likely to be less critical of a legend than somebody unrelated to their team.
Not sure what's wrong with that.
I think he won a Swedish league or something.
outside their starting 11.....
You know, squad players, that make up their 'far from shit' squad.
You know, squad players, that make up their 'far from shit' squad.
Are they outside Liverpool's starting 11?
oops didn't read it right,
I decline to comment.
out of interest how many players outside our first 11 are of proven quality?
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