Potentially? More like guaranteed.
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Potentially? More like guaranteed.
No chance. It's Lancel Lannister on stilts.
I thought Robert Strong was an amalgamation of Ser Gregor and all the others Cersei sent down to Qyburn's dungeon. He was doing weird experiments and surgery with all of them as far as I can remember.
I thought that it became clear that Robert Strong is actually just a big armour commanded by Ser Pounce.
Don't joke about Ser Pounce like that.
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I miss that beautiful little furry gentleman so much.
Chances of a trial by combat at some point with Ser Robert Strong/Gregor vs The Hound/Sandor?
Ser Pounce first training session suggests that Cersei might have put her bets on the wrong cat.
True Oberyn wasn't as awesome in the books as he was in the TV show but I felt more sick for Tyrion when the mountain crushed Oberyn's skull.
True, I'm a little annoyed they left the "I feel more innocent ... " line out. It would've given more of the sense of belief Tyrion had by that point to the viewers. Good line too.
That is a theory, sure. The Faith could name Sandor their champion, and we already know Robert Strong is Cersei's champion. I don't think it's going to happen, though. I'm not sure it would serve Sandor's "redemption" arc.
From the other thread:
One interesting aspect of Prince Oberyn in the show is how so many viewers have labled him a "good guy" and you sort of wonder where they get that from. What we see of him is that he is very much not a friend of the Lannister's so perhaps they are using the any enemy of the "bad guys" must be a "good guy" type logic. Yes he does want to avenge the deaths of his sister and her children, but does that make him a good guy? A bad guy could just as easily want revenge for the deaths of his sister and her children. Yes he stepped up to be Tyrion's champion, but that was all for revenge, again a "bad guy" could do the same.
What I am getting at, is that while he was a great character I am not sure that just from the show you could really get a sense that he was a "good guy" or a "bad guy" he simply had his own motivations for doing what he did and this aligned him with a fan favorite and against those who are considered the bad guys.
What I am getting at, is that while he was a great character I am not sure that just from the show you could really get a sense that he was a "good guy" or a "bad guy" he simply had his own motivations for doing what he did and this aligned him with a fan favorite and against those who are considered the bad guys.
"then to add salt on a womb"
Just saw the episode.
Slow episode until the ending. I don't care for fatty's girl and she is almost annoying as him. But the scenes were good and Ygritte was amazingly badass. The Jorah finally getting bitchslapped by Daenerys. Between, is she the most self righteous bitch ever. I was a bit neutral for her on the books (and maybe sympathized her a bit) but in the show I dislike him. She does things for all the good reasons, but still. I felt for Jorah, he deserved all what he got, but still he made a 180 degree change, so it wasn't all cool to see him leave. The most important thing on scenes there was Missandrei though. Finally, we understood why the casted 22 years old (by the time she took the job) Nathalie Emmanuel to play the role of a 10 years old girl. No complains there.
Then the scenes on the Eyrie. The actress who plays Sansa gave a very good acting (usually I think that she's bad at it) and looked seriously stunning. Littlefinger was still annoying with his infinite changes of accents.
Arya. Has any child ever had a more fecked up childhood than her. First almost everybody she knew in KingsLanding got executed. Then his father's head got chopped. Then she traveled a long time and thousands of miles to go back to her brother and goes there only a few hurs after him (and her mother and everybody else) have got slaughtered. And now it looks that she finally will find some safery only to find that her aunt is dead too. Can things become even worse for her? Obviously yes, soon enough her only 'friend' left will 'die'. You can't help but feel for her and her crazy laugh.
Now the most important part.
Pedro Pascal is amazing. He managed to make Oberyn Martell in the TV show even cooler than his counterpart on the books. And Oberyn on the books was the definition of being cool, so this was hard. You know like making Darth Vader look even mroe badass (or Hayden Christensen look more annoying). Kudos to Pascal, amazing performance by him. Th fight was just I imagined from the books (if we exclude the poison on his spear). Oberyn totally dominating the fight against a man twice his size. He toyed with him, he made a show and he defeated him. And then from cocky became supercocky and paid for that. On probably the most brutal death I have seen on any movie/TV show. I knew that it will happen, but still got completely shocked, almost crying. His scream in the end, I still hear it on my head. And I had to close my eyes during his last second.
On other words, feck you sickfeck, sadictic son of the bitch GRRM. I would have sacrificed all Starks (bar Jon the Snow) for Oberyn.
Slow episode until the ending. I don't care for fatty's girl and she is almost annoying as him. But the scenes were good and Ygritte was amazingly badass. The Jorah finally getting bitchslapped by Daenerys. Between, is she the most self righteous bitch ever. I was a bit neutral for her on the books (and maybe sympathized her a bit) but in the show I dislike him. She does things for all the good reasons, but still. I felt for Jorah, he deserved all what he got, but still he made a 180 degree change, so it wasn't all cool to see him leave. The most important thing on scenes there was Missandrei though. Finally, we understood why the casted 22 years old (by the time she took the job) Nathalie Emmanuel to play the role of a 10 years old girl. No complains there.
Then the scenes on the Eyrie. The actress who plays Sansa gave a very good acting (usually I think that she's bad at it) and looked seriously stunning. Littlefinger was still annoying with his infinite changes of accents.
Arya. Has any child ever had a more fecked up childhood than her. First almost everybody she knew in KingsLanding got executed. Then his father's head got chopped. Then she traveled a long time and thousands of miles to go back to her brother and goes there only a few hurs after him (and her mother and everybody else) have got slaughtered. And now it looks that she finally will find some safery only to find that her aunt is dead too. Can things become even worse for her? Obviously yes, soon enough her only 'friend' left will 'die'. You can't help but feel for her and her crazy laugh.
Now the most important part.
Pedro Pascal is amazing. He managed to make Oberyn Martell in the TV show even cooler than his counterpart on the books. And Oberyn on the books was the definition of being cool, so this was hard. You know like making Darth Vader look even mroe badass (or Hayden Christensen look more annoying). Kudos to Pascal, amazing performance by him. Th fight was just I imagined from the books (if we exclude the poison on his spear). Oberyn totally dominating the fight against a man twice his size. He toyed with him, he made a show and he defeated him. And then from cocky became supercocky and paid for that. On probably the most brutal death I have seen on any movie/TV show. I knew that it will happen, but still got completely shocked, almost crying. His scream in the end, I still hear it on my head. And I had to close my eyes during his last second.
On other words, feck you sickfeck, sadictic son of the bitch GRRM. I would have sacrificed all Starks (bar Jon the Snow) for Oberyn.
Great Episode although I wish they wouldn't have cut the Littlefinger interogation scene down so much, it was much better in the books.
Was the guy on the left Bronze Yohn?
Everybody in the TV thread not understanding that he fought for his sister, not for Tyrion.
Accusing him of dicking around.
Accusing him of dicking around.
Yes.
To Solius. Also to mitChley.
To Solius. Also to mitChley.
That was gruesome, but awesome!
From the other thread:
Absolutely hilarious especially when read out loud.That last scene was absolutely haunting
A righteous fellow with a worthy cause and all the technique in the world loses out to some brute biding his time whilst being completely upstaged... I did not look forward to that scene's conclusion at all :\
It's Brazil v Italy '82 all over again.
Between, Slevs will explode next episode when his beloved Ygritte will check out.
Tywin's death on the last episode will bring the most mixed reactions though. While he is one of the 'baddies', he is still a great character. I don't think that people will be happy with that death.
Tywin's death on the last episode will bring the most mixed reactions though. While he is one of the 'baddies', he is still a great character. I don't think that people will be happy with that death.
Saying that I read the books after watching season 2 cause the ending confused me to no end. I managed to follow most things really. Helped that I binge watched it so the characters were still fresh in my mind.
I feel bad for the people complaining about the lack of the White Walkers in the TV show thread...if only they knew they will still be waiting for them to show up in 3 years...
"CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK"
Well that's a bit odd....basically you could say that for almost any "good guy" in anything really, except for ones with well known backstories. Let's not forget they've beautifully turned Jaime into a good guy as well as GRRM did despite knowing his backstory, so let's not worry about them finding Oberyn being a good guy without knowing any backstory. Great casting helps an awful lot with the Jaime one, Waldau has been amazing, people hated him, and the same people love him. Wonderful turn, which is harder to do in motion than in a book imo, though it's still skilled writing.
Hi!
So it's nearly the end of season 4 and I am considering reading the books from this point onwards. My main reason is because everyone spoils the show for me (I've already been told some future spoilers). So I have a few questions:
Has reading the books made watching the show less enjoyable?
If I want to start reading from around the end of season 4, what book do I start with?
I'll only be reading replies that have quoted my post so as to avoid any spoilers. Cheers!
So it's nearly the end of season 4 and I am considering reading the books from this point onwards. My main reason is because everyone spoils the show for me (I've already been told some future spoilers). So I have a few questions:
Has reading the books made watching the show less enjoyable?
If I want to start reading from around the end of season 4, what book do I start with?
I'll only be reading replies that have quoted my post so as to avoid any spoilers. Cheers!
1) No.
2) You should really start with the first but if you want to be on the same sort of wavelength as the show, start with the second half of 'A Storm of Swords.'
No, Storm of Swords.
Definitely read them all though, you have no idea how much plot line they miss out in the show.
You'll also spend half your time wondering 'where's character XXX' when they weren't even in the books to begin with.
Cheers guys.
1) No
2) Book 1 : A Game of Thrones would be my suggestion. But if you really don't want to read the Book 1, 2 and 3 then I'll suggest purchase book 4 and 5 and do a combined read of them by following the reading order recommended by http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a
What was Tyrion's beetle speech all about? Seemed a bit pointless unless I missed something?
Thanks!
Maybe that some people just kill for killing's sake? Like the Mountain? It's a bit of a stretch but the only thing I can think of.
Dirty Schwein said:The interesting point here is that Oberyn was just a taste. Can't wait for his more powerful brother to now stroll in with their army
I cant wait for the anger when Oberyn's brother is revealed, so many are hyping him up as a great warrior.