Possibly?
I cant wait for the anger when Oberyn's brother is revealed, so many are hyping him up as a great warrior.
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I do like Doran though even if he's completely the opposite to Oberyn. That viper and grass speech was class.
I do like Doran though even if he's completely the opposite to Oberyn. That viper and grass speech was class.
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I am not, he doesnt get an alert for it. Just like you with this post.
Wanted to point out to them that Doran's not a king but best for them to see it next season.
And also that he's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
Hated the chapters that had Doran Martell.
You can guarantee that Doran's storyline will move a lot quicker in the series, they'll portray him as some tactical mastermind from the start.
They're going to hate Quentyn too.
Doran isn't that likable, but neither than annoying. He was really pointless until the ending when he told Arienne that he was planning revenge too. With Aegon/JonCon comming I think that he'll finally do something useful.
About the next season, I think all that matters are that Arienne and Victarion to be good casted. If they can find people for those roles near as good as Pedro Pascal was for Oberyn then it will be fantastic.
I imagine Arienne like a smarter, almost as beautiful, less lucky, mediterraenan version of Daenerys. She should be the most important character for the Dorne part of story (now with Oberyn gone). Victarion and Euron shouldn't be that difficult to cast well. I imagined them all the time as some younger version of Tywin (Euron a bit mixed with Ramsay). So, they have the model for them. If they do an Oberyn with these characters it will be great, if they do a Stannis/Gregor then the next season will be ruined.
About the next season, I think all that matters are that Arienne and Victarion to be good casted. If they can find people for those roles near as good as Pedro Pascal was for Oberyn then it will be fantastic.
I imagine Arienne like a smarter, almost as beautiful, less lucky, mediterraenan version of Daenerys. She should be the most important character for the Dorne part of story (now with Oberyn gone). Victarion and Euron shouldn't be that difficult to cast well. I imagined them all the time as some younger version of Tywin (Euron a bit mixed with Ramsay). So, they have the model for them. If they do an Oberyn with these characters it will be great, if they do a Stannis/Gregor then the next season will be ruined.
Given how much stuff happens in the first 3 books compared to AFFC and ADOD, I wonder how they're going to keep the TV series interesting. People are already complaining about Bran's storyline, Dany's etc. but nothing really moves forward in ADOD. I felt like Quentyn's storyline was just a whole waste of time while Tyrion/Dany's storylines don't progress at all.
I hope book six and seven throw some light on the point of Quentyn's existence as a character.
Does the story really change that much if Quentyn didnt exist.
Does the story really change that much if Quentyn didnt exist.
I bet that Quenty will get cut from the show. He was completely pointless.
I guess that they'll do the Tyrion-Daenery meeting a bit earlier than in the books and then it will be the Drogon-Daenerys story, but that will be all. Bran's story will finally be interesting with him arriving to the three eyed raven.
Anyway, the most important part of the next season IMO will be the ironborn and the wall. KingsLanding will be really boring with only Cersei there.
I could see that happening quite quickly as well. I mean they have made Sansa go from childish brat in one episode (slapping her cousin Robin) to a Machiavellian manipulator in the next.
At the rate they are going I suspect the stabbing of Jon Snow could be the last scene of season 5.
Yeah, which makes sense as well. He clearly knows what he's doing and is very clever, but he's taking a hell of a long time to show it. They'll speed that up in the show so he doesn't becoming frustrating.
They'll keep Quentyn. Gets a scene or two in the first episode before he sets out, then turns up for a few episodes later. They'll want him for the dragon burning scene, plus him not being there means Daenerys/Dorne wouldn't fall out which looks likely for book 6 since the Martells will side with Aegon.
I can't see how they're going to top the last two seasons. People are going to be expecting big, epic moments every 3-4 episodes. It's all down hill from here.
Can not understand where they are getting this all from.
I think the sand snakes will give HBO all kinds of excuses to put in some kinky stuff. I guess they will also feature more prominently in the show than they ever did in the books.
They'll probably cast Arianne Martell too for even more of that. Dorne should be good in the show certainly.
So, how much of this current TV season has gone into book 4 or 5?
Do you guys think next season will basically be book 4 or has so much of book 4 been covered that they'll have to go into book 5 as well?
I suppose they may have to slow it down, unless the TV show overtakes the pace of GRRM getting the books out.
Do you guys think next season will basically be book 4 or has so much of book 4 been covered that they'll have to go into book 5 as well?
I suppose they may have to slow it down, unless the TV show overtakes the pace of GRRM getting the books out.
I expect the next season will have both the battles of meereen and winterfell. So if the next book doesn't come out before the season starts then there will be spoilers.
Next season should have a lot less of Kings Landing as well and more of Dorne, Iron Islands, Tyrion and the wall.
Next season should have a lot less of Kings Landing as well and more of Dorne, Iron Islands, Tyrion and the wall.
IIRC the scene with the Lords of the Vale and Sansa is from book 4. Well Baelish conveniently blames the singer for Lysa's death so there's that also.
Bran most probably will meet Bloodraven in the last episode or we will have him entering the cave beneath the Weirwood tree so we have reached book 5 territory for him also.
And If Brienne meets Lady Stoneheart in the remaining two episodes we would have completed her entire arc from book 4.
From now on pretty much, anything Sansa or LF do is pretty much on "spoiler territory"
I reckon they will manage to drag that plot out a bit more. Same with Bran as well, I think. They will drag out bran's training with bloodraven and Sansa/LF plotting so that there's technically no 'spoilers'. Even with Catelyn I think they will show us her executing a few freys for most of the season to drag that out.
Or so I hope anyway.
Wonder how people will take Ygritte's death (which I assume will happen next episode, I just hope they don't imply that Jon does it). I found that strangely sad in the books especially the last interaction between her and Jon.
Excuse my terrible memory, would you remind me if we've gotten any further with Brienne than when she was about to be hung by Lady Stoneheart, at this point in the books? Not much to show with her besides that scene IIRC, seems pretty nailed on they will make up some adventures for her and Pod between their last scene in the show and Brienne's meeting with LS.
I really hope they get Arya to the assassins quick, that may be the best part of next season. I have a feeling the show is going to lose a lot of popularity during next season. Tyrion out of his element, Tywin dead, Daeny making nearly no progress towards the 7 Kingdoms and the White Walkers probably won't make an appearance either.
That would be too much. I don't expect to go as far with the story. While books 4 and 5 are a bit boring, there is a lot of material there and enough for a season IMO. I guess that those two battles will be on the sixth season, so likely we will have the new book before it. However the last season will go definitely before the last book which is quite a shame.
Good point but I don't think they will leave both battles for season 6. One of them will be next season. If I had to guess I'd say the winterfell one will be season 5 as they might conclude next season with Dany flying on Drogon.
People have moaned about the slow pace this season, I think there will be a definite drop off in quality... Agreed about the last season, going to find it impossible not to watch it and wait 5 years for the book.
The point of GRRM writing is that there isn't a good vs bad mentality at all. Everyone has their flaws and motives.
I cheered. Didn't like her at all. Like her even less in the show.
Just some more bromance and also making him look even better right before he dies.
What was the point of the Grey Worm-Missandei bit?
You know hollywood, always have to stick love stories where they don't belong.
I can see them dragging out Bran and there is quite a bit for him to do and I expect Catelyn and the Brotherhood to go round thrashing some Freys next season as well.
But not sure how much they can drag out the Sansa plotline, not unless they bring characters who aren't involved yet e.g. Harold the Heir and Mya Stone but that would slow down the pace considerably and it's still a lot different to the books.
Yeah, I feel like they've gone too far with some of the plot and it will have to stall next season.
Just to tell us more about Grey Worm and Missandei I guess. Meereen is a bit short on likeable characters so I don't mind it.
They still have to decide Rob Arryn's regent, don't they, like in the books? If they do that they could feasibly drag it out until LF tells Sansa of his plan to give her Winterfell and Eyrie which might be the end of the arc for that season. But they've already changed Sansa a bit so it's hard to guess.
The big problem with next season for them is that there was no conclusions to many of the plots in Dance of Dragons. Plenty of them were left unfinished. You can't expect them to leave it like that in the show.
I'm sure they have an overall plan.
Didn't he send Jojen and his sister to mind Bran? Also his people are known for poisoning their weapons. Might have had an influence in the battle.
How I understood it was that it was a bit of a metaphor for Tyrions relationship with Cersei and Joffrey. Him trying to understand why they would love to cause misery and pain for other people that they seem lesser than hem and ultimately, despite his best efforts, not being able to.
If they wanted to do that they could mention that she has three brothers that are unsullied. That's already in the books.