Yeah, I think it's implied that he could do magic and stuff. He should appear at some point in the next 2 books
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Yeah, I think it's implied that he could do magic and stuff. He should appear at some point in the next 2 books
It just occurred to me that it's a metaphor for GRRM, killing all his characters.
Duncan the tall (in the 3 tales so far) comes across as an average fighter. But he does epitomize all the qualities a knight should have (protecting the innocent etc..)
Yeah might very well be but let's not forget he did quite well as a mystery knight at Harrenhal so he at least had some skill with lance and shield and I guess it's not to unreasonable to assume he wasn't the worst fighter with other weapons as well. Of course there might have been more to him like to his son Jojen but than again green dreams don't really help all that much and it never gets mentioned that he possessed some "special" ability.
Wasn't it someone else who was the mystery knight though, who fought for him? I think there's definitely more to him as a character, especially since he may be the only one left alive who knows Jon's parentage.
Really? Was that mentioned? Can't remember reading anything about it. I mean the only real story we have of him is the mystery knight episode Jojen tells, assuming that it was his father and there was really any mention of him being "supernatural" in any shape or form.
I thought his legacy was of an exceptional knight? In the first two he was barely learning the art of fighting and was no where near enough to being the leader of the kingsguard but is crazy tall and strong.
He apparently fought very well against Ser Arthur Dwayne. Only him and Howland survived the battles against three knights of kingdsguard which makes him a great fighter. Probably on top 10 of the century.
Wasnt the mystery knight the stark sister? The one that rhaeger "kidnapped".
I don't think it was someone else. Rember he befriended the Stark kids, Eddard and Lyanna Stark during that tournament.
If memory serves that was a 7/8 vs 3 and he barely escaped with his life. I think his brother was the better fighter between them two.
Yeah, but wasn't it also implied that he was a pretty terrible fighter as well? I can't remember exactly, need to go back and reread that story, but I'm pretty sure the evidence pointed it to possibly being one of the Starks or someone like that. Not sure though.
There are hints. Mainly that they are descended from the children of the forest, can breath through mud etc..
Really? If so that has totally passed me by. But wasn't she a spectator considering that Rhaegar gave her the rose at the tournament?
Feeky's gonna be mad.Possibly, but from the 3 Dunc and the Egg tales he does not stand out as an exceptional fighter. Maybe that will change with the later books
We don't know who the mystery knight is. Chances are it was Howland Reed though
Well those are more the things the Walder's are saying which are pretty much only "fairy tales" and myths, or did someone else mention this?
Yeah, it was like that, bust still fighting against Dwayne and two other members of kingsguard wasn't exactly easy. He also not just escaped, but he killed them (of course with the helps of the others). Lets not forget how strong Dwayne was. Ned, Jaime and Barristan mention him as the best fighter they have seen.
For me the top ten would be:
1) Robert Baratheon
2) Arthur Dayne
3) Rhaegar Targaryan
4) Barristan Selmy
5) The Smiling Knight
6) Jaime Lannister
7) Oberyn Martell
8) Gregor Clegane
9) Sandor Glegane
10) Eddard Stark
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Thats what I remembered from the story that was being told to bran by the reed siblings. He was shocked he didnt know about it so had to be a stark imo.
I think she was presented a rose after the lance fight so the timeline still fits. Dont remember too much though.
Don't think there is any evidence that Rhaegar was an exceptional fighter. The only thing we know he did is get killed. And it's Dayne, not Dwayne.
It's mentioned quite a few times I think. Either way there's some kind of mysterious aura around the reeds that we are yet to know about. Quite bizarre how Howland Reed let his 2 children go to winterfell in the middle of war but hasn't yet done anything. He'll be crucial I reckon.
True.
Yeah, it was like that, bust still fighting against Dwayne and two other members of kingsguard wasn't exactly easy. He also not just escaped, but he killed them (of course with the helps of the others). Lets not forget how strong Dwayne was. Ned, Jaime and Barristan mention him as the best fighter they have seen.
For me the top ten would be:
1) Robert Baratheon
2) Arthur Dwayne
3) Rhaegar Targaryan
4) Barristan Selmy
5) The Smiling Knight
6) Jaime Lannister
7) Oberyn Martell
8) Gregor Clegane
9) Sandor Glegane
10) Eddard Stark
Subject of change on the next post
What about arya's teacher and that faceless man? And the hightower dude.
Well he won jousts against some of the best fighters in Westeros like the one where he crowned Lyanna. Must have been at least quite good, although probably not the very best.
Yeah I'm not really certain either. Always thought it was Howland Reed but it might have been Lyanna. I just hope GRRM will clear up all those little mysteries by the end and not leave too many of his "riddles" unanswered.
OOps!
He has been mentioned by a lot of people as a great fighter, the last of dragons etc. While partially it might be because of his status, still. Also, if I am not mistaken he wounded Robert during their fight. Also on tourneys he has defeated Dayne several times.
EDIT - Chances are it wasn't Howland Reed
I think he was an exceptional rider but wouldnt class him as one of the best figthers. Didnt have the heart for it.
I am just hoping he finishes the books, would hate it if someone else would have to do it.Revan thought Dayne was Dwayne?
Deary me
Deary me
Yeah might very well be and it's mentioned that the Greywater Watch is also a "moving" castle so there might be some magic involved even though I took the "moving" castle more as an expression of it being hard to find in all the mist and swamp.
I got the impression Eddard was very lucky to survive the Tower of Joy, he said the only reason he didn't die that day was due to Howland Reed. Because Jojen is a green seer, it could be that Howland is special in some way too. Could have warged into Dayne as he was about to kill Eddard maybe?
Anyway, yeah Eddard was pretty good I guess. Held his own against Jaime.
I was saying true to the Dunc part, personally I have the stark as the mystery knight contender.There isn't a chance in hell GRRM is going to "clear up all those little mysteries".
Arya's teacher wasn't Westerosi, but anyway we haven't seen him doing anything spectacular. Defeating a few shit knights without a sowrd was cool but still he was killed by a not a great fighter.
The faceless man (Arya's friend) is an assasin, not a fighter. I don't think that he would do that well in a one on one fight. His main skill is stealth which would be pointless on those fights.
Probably not, although he must have still been quite good at least even if he wasn't one of the very best.
Revan thought Dayne was Dwayne?
Deary me
Ned Stark was nearing the tower where his sister was. "If you come any closer am gon' pop a cap in yo' ass.", Dwayne said to him from a distance.
ah yeah possible. COnsidering it was Howland that was bullied he's probably not the mystery knight. Also interesting is that the whole story of the mystery knight and harrenhall comes from his children
Well let's be honest there are a shit load of good fighters around it seems and we only really know about those in Westeros for the biggest part. Drogo was probably a really good fighter as well. I guess there wasn't much between a lot of them and given a bit of luck and on a good day most of them could have defeat anyone else on the best fighter list and vice versa.
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Good point but he was the first sword of barasoi(sp?) so must have been good. He was fighting knights in armour with a wooden sword, what did you expect to happen other than him being killed?
I disagree with the assassin not being a fighter, I think we will see evidence of his skill in the latter books. Which brings me to Hotah or that gay dude, who is off the night,Darkstar. The most dangerous man in Dorne I believe he was called.
Yeah, wasnt their a quote by selmy or lord friendzone that rhager was good at whatever he tried.
Yeah unfortunately not, the damn sadistic bastard.
You just know he enjoy's people boggling their mind over all the hints and little tales he puts in his books.