She's quite good at screaming
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She's quite good at screaming
Don't get the whole trying to make Cersei more sympathic line. The whole point of her character is that she is as power hungry as any of the men along with a bit crazy in the way a desire for power can make a person. Having her as leader is an essential point of Varys and Littlefingers plots (not meaning they are together but they both need her screwing things up).
The show needs to get accross more what a mess Westeros is becoming. Especially with Winter Coming.
Also one question, the whole 'Oh BTW the gold mines have run dry" bit, was that in the books and I am having a massive brain cramp? I remember thinking as I read them that there might be issues with the Lannisters income but nothign so drastic as the "We have minded all the gold in our lands, we are screwed."
We knew the crown was in debt deep with the Lannisters and the Iron Bank, but can't remember the Lannisters being in debt to the Iron Bank in the book.
I thought they were going to do that in a big way this season. They showed a glimpse of what it's like out there with the Hound hitting the farmer who'd taken them in and stealing their silver, it's a dog-eat-dog world. But in the books that's nothing, some really awful stuff is happening out there.
Would have been a great idea to include some scenes of Gregor and some rogue Lannister men just destroying towns and slaughtering innocents. That way, the non-readers get to see just how fecked up and evil The Mountain is, rather than just hearing about the rape and murder from Oberyn, so there is a lot more tension and backstory to the trial by combat.
That definitely wasn't in the books. All I remember is Tywin refusing to part with Lannister money for Joffrey's wedding which could be interpreted in different ways.
Did the show suggest the crown was indebted to the Iron Bank or the Lannisters?
Earlier I believe there was mention of Littlefinger borrowing from the Lannisters and I thought Tyrion made mention of the Iron Bank when he was going through Littlefingers accounting books, but maybe not.
Maybe they're just trying to simplify things by no longer making the distinction between the Lannisters' wealth and the Crown's wealth.
we'll be seeing the iron bank next episode so I'm sure they'll make it clear how big a problem they are.
Yeah there have been some hints like the scene with the farmer and the scene in the Inn with Ayra and The Hound, where the guys they ended up killing talked about all the things they were doing.
Hopefully as Brienne and Pod travel they will show more the displacement of people and the destruction the war brought on.
Yeah they have to do things like that when adapting immense books to the screen.
From what I remember littlefinger borrowed both from the Lannisters and the Iron Bank. So basically, the crown in heavily indebted to both the Lannisters and the Iron Bank. Tywin's remarks in the books suggest he still differentiated between the crown and the Lannisters.
Next episode looks good. Finally we'll have some Iron Born (non book plot though) and Bravos.
I was disappointed to see Locke die like that. I mean the shock value was good obviously, but considering they'd diverted from the plot with Vargo Hoat and had really built him up I'm surprised we never got the NW at least finding out who he was, or with him playing a bigger role in the long run. They could've basically cut him out of Bran's bit, Bran could've still warged into Hodor and they'd have gone free anyway. Expected to see more of him.
He was a pretty good villain too. Had the right balance of evil, mystery and capability.
At least it's not predictable. Everyone expected Locke to play a bigger part, and then he just sort of dies.
The unpredictability was the good part about it admittedly.
Revan gonna Revan.
Just noticed it and was going to say it in here. If that's not a spoiler then I don't know what is.
What spoiler matey? He has been a minor character, has been shown on 4 scenes until now.Just noticed it and was going to say it in here. If that's not a spoiler then I don't know what is.
I don't know how on Earth that is a spoiler considering that it will become exactly the opposite, he will be one of the most important characters on the remaining episodes.
Because it's clear he took it that a book reader calling him a minor character meant you know he's not going to do much. Considering he's had a decent number of scenes for a new character, they'd probably see him as more than that. Perhaps unintentionally, you've said he's only minor now and they're going to think that's a spoiler.
You wouldn't have said that Tywin was a minor character when he first appeared in season 1, for example, because he's not. As a book reader, they're reading into everything you say and will take that as a spoiler, even if you didn't mean it in that way.
Oh come on, Revan, you can't possibly not understand how that is a potential spoiler. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not, the fact that a book reader said it makes it infinitely more significant. This is the very reason you don't post about actual show/book information in that thread.
That's a nailed on to-be-deleted post.
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You're such a gobshite Revan. How many times have you posted shit like that now?
"Hey what c'mon guys it's like totally obvious geez calm down I've read the books so I'd know you halfwits"
"Hey what c'mon guys it's like totally obvious geez calm down I've read the books so I'd know you halfwits"
Again, Revan, just don't post in the other thread AT ALL. It's too easy to let things slip (as you've done several times now). I really don't understand why you have to continue posting in there.
Definitely spoiled it for them. You wouldn't have called him a minor character if he was in it for more than this series.
Aldo will feel like strangling Revan when Oberyn dies.
Aldo will feel like strangling Revan when Oberyn dies.
You told me. You spoiled it. You said he'd die!
Say it! Say his name!
At best they're going to think he's heading off back to Dorne come the end of Tyrion's trial, but with it being GoT, they're probably now thinking he'll die. Revan's going to be a wanted man.
The inevitable long drawn out fight scene between him and the mountain will no longer be quite so unpredictable
Just don't mention anything about Ser Pounce and his operation over there.
After Oberyn dies in the show I'm going to threadban Revan from the TV thread. Only reason I'm not doing it now is because it'd be obvious that we did it because of what he said. Best to leave it for now and hope they forget.
I might suck it up and join the Spoilers Watch.
I liked Oberyn. fecking Moutain, always spoiling other lives.
Some of the things Daenerys says in the show sound so bad when Emilia Clarke says them. "I shall do what Queens do. I shall rule." made me shudder. I'm not sure if it's her delivery or the character who irritates me. Dany bothers me in general but I don't remember being so irritated by that line in the book (I think it's in the books).
I think it's her acting- at least from my pov. The only time she pulls off delivering strong lines is when it's in Valyrian, for some reason, she just sounds like a petulant child stomping her feet when she tries to pull off those lines in English
Emilia Clarke is a terrible actor. Poor casting considering she's playing such a key character.
Let's be honest though, we all still would.
I would drag my balls through all of the seven hells to sniff her farts.
It's really strange with Emilia Clarke because until this season I thought she did a very good job as Daeny. But this season she is about the least convincing of the whole cast even more so then "I speak in a drak Batman style voice now" Littlefinger.
The shows changes also start to annoy me a little because they seem to run from plohole into plothole atm especially with Bran I feel and Jon Snow.
Unfortunately the show is starting to annoy quite a bit, the production value is still great but I feel the writing is getting worse the more it differs from the source, the amount of cringe worthy dialogs has also reached a level bordering on unbearable.
The shows changes also start to annoy me a little because they seem to run from plohole into plothole atm especially with Bran I feel and Jon Snow.
Unfortunately the show is starting to annoy quite a bit, the production value is still great but I feel the writing is getting worse the more it differs from the source, the amount of cringe worthy dialogs has also reached a level bordering on unbearable.
I know it's been that way since the start and that it's a minor thing but it still annoys me: why is it a three-eyed raven that Bran and co. are looking for? What's wrong with a three-eyed crow? Such a pointless change.
The episode was quite boring so I had time and energy to be annoyed by that again. Also, Lysa spouting all that exposition was handled quite poorly I thought. She might as well have simply turned to the audience and declare "Hey guys, I killed Jon Arryn because Littlefinger told me to. Mind blown, right?"
The episode was quite boring so I had time and energy to be annoyed by that again. Also, Lysa spouting all that exposition was handled quite poorly I thought. She might as well have simply turned to the audience and declare "Hey guys, I killed Jon Arryn because Littlefinger told me to. Mind blown, right?"