This was the only part of the episode I didn't like. And I remember that someone has posted here long ago that he's a bit afraid that they won't make all the details, like putting the wolf head on Robb's body.
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This was the only part of the episode I didn't like. And I remember that someone has posted here long ago that he's a bit afraid that they won't make all the details, like putting the wolf head on Robb's body.
I'm going against the current here, but I didn't think it was that well done. That was probably because reading this thread and the other during the day gave me the impression it would be something incredible, and I just thought it was rather flat. I would have loved to discover it without knowing what was coming next, but knowing how event would unfold just ruined it for me. However, Talisa's death was truly shocking, that's for sure, and as someone pointed out, Greywind's death was sad.
One little bit that I did enjoy was when Catelyn started having doubts, looked at Roose's sleeve and saw he was wearing chainmail, the look he gave her at that moment, sort of "yeah... what are you gonna do?" was good I thought.
Anyway, it was still a good episode, I just felt a bit let down by the whole Red Wedding.
One little bit that I did enjoy was when Catelyn started having doubts, looked at Roose's sleeve and saw he was wearing chainmail, the look he gave her at that moment, sort of "yeah... what are you gonna do?" was good I thought.
Anyway, it was still a good episode, I just felt a bit let down by the whole Red Wedding.
I was glad they skipped Grey Wind going mental when they entered the Frey's house. It would have given the game away! It was awful to watch him die though, it was more upsetting than the human deaths.
From the other thread:
My lord, this is creativity.
My lord, this is creativity.
They're all turning to Daenerys to be the saviour. They'll get fecked off with her soon enough.
Also, not sure what they're going to do with Jaime. The next thing he does is arrive back at Kings Landing after Joffrey has died. Doesn't look like that wedding will be til at least mid season 4 though.
The writers might get a bit creative and pad his journey to kings landing out a bit. He might visit the freys or something?
I'd just have him turn up earlier at Kings Landing, since there would be too much going on after Joffrey's death. They can start the process of changing the way he thinks of Cersie early.
Plus he can practice with his sword and shit.
Plus he can practice with his sword and shit.
Or just do a bit of sight seeing? He deserves it, been through a lot, poor man.
I'm pretty sure they're going to show it in the finale.
Yeah they ended on Cat dropping so how were they supposed to show the wolf head? It'll probably be the opening shot of the finale.
Aye, I think so. The finale is never really that good in contrast to episode nine, because they basically have to bundle every single plot line in the show into the hour so that they all end for the season, usually it's a bit of a slow burner with a cliffhanger at the end, which I think you Solius, possibly were the one to originally guess would be the resurrection of Catelyn as Lady Stoneheart. I think that'll probably be it.
Oh, and I never knew this before, but I read an interview about the episode with GRRM and he basically said he hated having to write the RW, and actually wrote the entire book before going back and doing those chapters.
Yep, read that yesterday. Knowing how much it touched us, you can only imagine how much difficulty GRRM had to write it.
Not sure about that though. (Was it me who said that?) The reveal in the books happens when Brienne is taken there, but she still has to go back to Kings Landing. I'm thinking maybe it'll end with the fight at Castle Black, maybe with Stannis saving them. Or maybe Coldhands? Not sure really. Maybe they'll make up something that has no purpose like a fecking army of White Walkers marching towards the wall only to never be seen again.
Man, it's going to be so good when Wyman Manderly enters the fray (Forgive the accidental pun). I think I saw a Manderly at the wedding. The North Remembers.
Oh right, must not have been you, and yeah that's the question I asked too, the first time we see Lady Stoneheart is in the prologue, but whomever it was suggested we might actually seen her reincarnation at the end of this season.
That would ruin the shock of her being alive. Especially so soon after her dying.
We'll see, they do usually end the season with something big that ends up having no real bearing on the next season whatsoever until maybe the very end, so it would suit it perfectly.
I reckon it could just end on Cats body being taken from the river. Maybe we won't even see who takes it, just a pair of hands pulling her out. That would be a pretty good cliffhanger.
That does sound good actually, I can see that happening on a TV show perfectly.
Could be, or it might just be with the start of the wildlings invasion on Castle Black. feck knows.
I have a feeling season four will delve into early parts of books four and five, we're pretty much 2/3 of the way through book three now, though there is still lots to happen I guess.
I have a feeling season four will delve into early parts of books four and five, we're pretty much 2/3 of the way through book three now, though there is still lots to happen I guess.
If I remember rightly, Arya seeing Cat's body through the eyes of (I think) Nymeria is quite an important part in the books, because it's confirmation for her that Cat is dead, and she should stop trying to get away from Sandor. Do we think they'll try to show that, or just leave it? It'd be a decent way to show that she can warg too, because they'll need that for the blind Beth story later on.
Unless I've accidentally made that up. I should probably reread the books.
Unless I've accidentally made that up. I should probably reread the books.
Yeah, despite there still being a lot of stuff that will happen, if they pan out the final third of Storm of Swords over 10 episodes next season, there will be too much filler I think. They can finish off in 5-6 episodes and then start going into A feast for crows and A dance with dragons, like you suggest.
What the feck is going to happen when the series does overtake the books, because that will happen. I can either watch the show and get my favourite ever fantasy series ruined for me, or not watch one of my favourite TV shows so that they're not ruined. feckity shit poop.
I've not really given it much thought, but it might have been on here (or somewhere else) that someone mentioned about the possibility for filler seasons on the backstories of ASOIAF. Seasons on events such as the war of the Usurper (I can't remember the official names for the wars) that can include the ToJ stuff, the end of the dragons, the first defeat of the others, the destruction of the Reynes etc. Even stuff such as the Doom of Valyria could plausibly be created. All to just fill in that time period between each book.
Probably won't happen, but it would be quite nice to see. It would fill non-book readers in on a lot of the backstory and history of ASOIAF, as well as expanding upon the knowledge given on such events in the books themselves.
I hope they leave Stoneheart for next season. It would cheapen the shock of the Red Wedding to have her resurrected in the next episode.
Spaculation about what'll happen in the finale:
Spaculation about what'll happen in the finale:
We'll have Bran and co meeting Sam and Gilly. Maybe Coldhands will be about, or maybe they're leaving him for Bran to meet when he's on the other side of the wall next season.
Stannis ain't done with Gendry yet. My memory is a bit hazy bt in the books I think as well as the leeches, they wanted to kill Edric because they thought it would awaken a dragon or something? So we'll probably see Davos saving Gendry. I hope. Imagine they had Gendry killed as the final 'feck you' of the series.
Arya will be doing something. Grieving, getting angry, trying to kill the hound. I've no idea what they're going to have her do next season. There's not much left in ASOS for her. There's her killing the Tickler, but he's already dead in the show.
Dany strutting about Yunkai, freeing slaves, sexing Daario with her eyes.
Jon getting back to Castle Black? I don't know, I don't think the battle will be in this episode
King's Landing reacting to the news from the Twins.
No idea what the cliff hanger will be.
Stannis ain't done with Gendry yet. My memory is a bit hazy bt in the books I think as well as the leeches, they wanted to kill Edric because they thought it would awaken a dragon or something? So we'll probably see Davos saving Gendry. I hope. Imagine they had Gendry killed as the final 'feck you' of the series.
Arya will be doing something. Grieving, getting angry, trying to kill the hound. I've no idea what they're going to have her do next season. There's not much left in ASOS for her. There's her killing the Tickler, but he's already dead in the show.
Dany strutting about Yunkai, freeing slaves, sexing Daario with her eyes.
Jon getting back to Castle Black? I don't know, I don't think the battle will be in this episode
King's Landing reacting to the news from the Twins.
No idea what the cliff hanger will be.
They might show the first little battle, with Jon helping hold off the wildlings from the South. Weird that they showed so few of them though, it won't really make much sense when there's about five of them left.
The backstory is pretty great so I'd love prequel series from any era if they catch up, which they will. But I'm also fine with longer gaps.....just going from 10 months now to 14 months gives GRRM an extra year, though he probably needs about 2 for Book 6(so that's a 2015 release), so book 7 ummm....in 2020?
4(Book 3 pt2)-June 2014
5(pt 1 of Books 4/5)-Sept 2015
6(pt 2 of books 4/5)-March 2017
7(pt 3 of books 4/5 with the start of book 6)-Sept 2018
8(book 6)-March 2020
9(book 6/7) - March 2021
10(depending on how big 6/7 are I guess) - March 2022
Even that's all being kind. Though I reckon they milk book 4/5 for 3 series(an awful lot of filler....gotta happen too).
4(Book 3 pt2)-June 2014
5(pt 1 of Books 4/5)-Sept 2015
6(pt 2 of books 4/5)-March 2017
7(pt 3 of books 4/5 with the start of book 6)-Sept 2018
8(book 6)-March 2020
9(book 6/7) - March 2021
10(depending on how big 6/7 are I guess) - March 2022
Even that's all being kind. Though I reckon they milk book 4/5 for 3 series(an awful lot of filler....gotta happen too).
There's no way they'll put a halt to the most popular show they've had in god knows how long and do prequels while they wait for that morbidly obese wind up merchant to finish his books, they're definitely going to keep going with the show regardless, the question is whether they will make up their own stuff entirely, or if GRRM basically tells them the entire remaining plot for the books, which I very much hope he does not.
It'd have to be more than just filler, they'd have to create full storylines for some characters if they try to stretch 4 and 5 to 3 seasons. Like Bran for example, that's only 4 chapters to go on. And Bran's scenes in this season have already felt a bit like filler.
I can't imagine them stretching four and five, which are basically just one book that Martin for some inexplicable reason decided to spend 11 years adding an extra 1,500 pages of filler to, into three seasons. They'll probably start it off towards the end of season four and maybe do two after that, but preferably one, cause feck all actually happens.
If they do that it will be the day I stop watching. It's not their vision to bring to an end and I guess that everyone who started with the books would feel the same way.
But of course a large part of the audience will probably keep watching because they never read the books.
At some point Weiss and Benioff are simply going to want a break too, those two work insane schedules for this show......longer gaps betweens seasons are inevitable if they go the distance....and HBO will be fine with it as they have proved they are more than happy to wait many times.
By the time they get to the final series/book, technology should of advanced to a stage where they can release the chapters/episode on the same day imo. ZERO SPOILERS WILL BE HAD.
The show will definitely outpace the books, there's very little doubt in my mind, unless Martin pulls a zinger and goes "actually the last two books are basically done, here y'go!"
If the show does outpace the books then I kinda hope Weiss and Beinhoff basically do their own thing rather than totally spoiling whatever Martin is planning. I like the TV show but for me the books come 1st, I'd be happy to have the TV show go off in its own direction if it meant I didn't know what was gonna happen in the final book.
Can they just run on with the show without Martin's permission? Surely he holds the rights to the whole thing?
Also, I've just realised how hilarious it'll be when Jon Snow gets stabbed. It didn't do that much for me in the books as I'm pretty sure he'll be back, but the non-readers won't know that. All they're gonna see is another Stark getting fecked over for trying to do the right thing, another meltdown hopefully.
Yesterday, I laughed at people saying they were never watching the show again, but if the bolded part happened, I think that'd be it for me
And there's no way they'll do "filler" episodes or halt the show imo, if they do that, I think it'll pretty much die a ratings death and that'll be it tbh.