Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

I'm sure they'll find a way of writing it though.

The TV show is already separating itself from the books more and more anyway, I reckon they'll mostly follow the plot of the third book, bar a few differences (similar to season two) but I'd say that they'll start to branch off heavily from books four and five, because let's face it, if they stick with them, the TV show will decline rapidly.
 
Solius said:
Considering the people who make the TV show are aware of key plot points in case Martin pops his clogs, are we in danger of being spoiled regarding future developments in the books by noticing which characters they've decided to leave out? You could now assume someone like Strong Belwas doesn't have much of a part to play in the future. I know he's kind of a minor character but still.
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Think that's already happened, read somewhere else that they were talking about getting rid of one of the smaller characters in season two but Martin told them they might need that character around later. Probably someone like Lancel or Gendry, the kinds of characters that could dissapear for a few books but then do something important later.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to a character like Robb's wife, she kinda dissapears in the books after this season. If she's not important in the future they'll probably get rid of her at the RW, if she is important in the future they'll have to find something for her to do for a fair few seasons.
 
They have grown up Missandrei for obvious reasons. 'The Westerosi whore' is as hot as ever.
 
Solius said:
Considering the people who make the TV show are aware of key plot points in case Martin pops his clogs, are we in danger of being spoiled regarding future developments in the books by noticing which characters they've decided to leave out? You could now assume someone like Strong Belwas doesn't have much of a part to play in the future. I know he's kind of a minor character but still.
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It's interesting. I think it could work the other way as well. Martin might decide not to have Belwas do anything important now since he's not in the show. Having said that, they could always just introduce him next season or the season after that if Belwas becomes important.
 
I'm scared they're going to feck up the Red Wedding. Feel like they're going to miss out bits like Grey Wind's head being sewn onto Robb's body. Not vital to the plot but it adds a lot to the effect of the RW.
 
Even in the book you just hear about that a little while after. None of the characters see it. Not really sure how they could make it work in the show.

I don't think the RW will be quite as a big a shock for people as it was in in the book though. People will be expecting something to happen at the end of the season.
 
Cina said:
I'm sure they'll find a way of writing it though.

The TV show is already separating itself from the books more and more anyway, I reckon they'll mostly follow the plot of the third book, bar a few differences (similar to season two) but I'd say that they'll start to branch off heavily from books four and five, because let's face it, if they stick with them, the TV show will decline rapidly.
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Yup curious to see how they handle books 4 + 5. I can't imagine viewers will be too pleased with the story focus shifting entirely away from the stark family to the less interesting brianne (sp), tyrells, sea people etc. Maybe they should combine 4 + 5 into one season and cut it heavily, then hopefully book 6 will be out.
 
Yeah, it happens around 200 pages into the second part of the book and you just don't expect it. If they out it as the culmination of the series in episode 9 or 10 then the viewer will know shit is going down.
 
Yeah for full effect it needed to be episode 6 or something but it's 9 isn't it?
 
I still can't wait to watch the RW with people who've never read the books. I can only imagine how hilarious my face would have been reading that part. I honestly had to put down the book and take a minute to process everything.
 
Bebe said:
I still can't wait to watch the RW with people who've never read the books. I can only imagine how hilarious my face would have been reading that part. I honestly had to put down the book and take a minute to process everything.
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I couldn't get over Ned Stark's beheading. Utter shock that one.
 
Cina said:
Probably 9, the major events usually are and Martin usually writes the episode himself.
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Going by the episode titles the RW will be in ep9, "Rains of Catamere" kinda gives that away. That's not the episode Martin is writing this season though, think the creators said they wanted the RW for themselves.
 
Bebe said:
I still can't wait to watch the RW with people who've never read the books. I can only imagine how hilarious my face would have been reading that part. I honestly had to put down the book and take a minute to process everything.
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Same. I just put the book down and said "What the feck?!" out loud to myself.
 
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.
 
It's good, but it's no

A bear there was,
A bear, A BEAR!
All black and brown,
And covered with hair!
 
The end of book 3 and 4 and 5 are kinda gonna be merged according to GRRM since their timelines kinda intertwine or whatever. He said he hopes they get 4 series out them all(so up to season 7 will take you to where we are now with books, so basically UK paperback level)....but it'll probably be 3, he's fecked. Or they are gonna have to take Sopranos-esque gaps between series.
 
To be fair I really doubt that Martin will rush his work because of the series. So, I think that either the series creators will find a way to delay their work (if necessary) or the serie and TV show will be separated when the time will come.
 
They did mention doing prequels if they caught up with the books, as I recall.

Personally I'd prefer if they didn't do that and just continued with the show.
 
Zen said:
The end of book 3 and 4 and 5 are kinda gonna be merged according to GRRM since their timelines kinda intertwine or whatever. He said he hopes they get 4 series out them all(so up to season 7 will take you to where we are now with books, so basically UK paperback level)....but it'll probably be 3, he's fecked. Or they are gonna have to take Sopranos-esque gaps between series.
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Martin was originally going to have the story jump forward five years between ASOS and AFFC so the younger characters would be older. He decided against it because it meant he would be too reliant on flashbacks, so he had to change the storylines he had planned (and probably the pace of some character development as well.) If it turns out that the TV show has to take a break might they borrow from Martin's original idea? Jump the plot forward a few years so we get to see the younger characters as adults? It would mean the TV show has departed from the books in a big way but if this was Martin's original plan it would probably still end in roughly the same way.
 
Would be cool to see a few prequel things though as Martin has said we won't see anything from then. Stuff like the Tower of Joy and the whole Robert's Rebellion era would be interesting to see.
 
tbh, the ages barely matter, only the Stark kids would you truly notice it with. I reckon they'll eventually go with 18-24 months gaps, probably the best solution really.
 
It's far, far too popular for HBO to just stop it or stall it though. They'll find a way to air it yearly, for sure.
 
They could do spin off seasons devoted to some of everyone's favourite storylines. Like a 10 episode in depth retelling of Dany in Qarth. Or the adventures of Brienne back in Tarth.
 
Cina said:
It's far, far too popular for HBO to just stop it or stall it though. They'll find a way to air it yearly, for sure.
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Didn't The Sopranos stop for a few years? Or was that for reasons beyond HBO's control? I can't remember why they did it.
 
Scrumpet said:
They could do spin off seasons devoted to some of everyone's favourite storylines. Like a 10 episode in depth retelling of Dany in Qarth. Or the adventures of Brienne back in Tarth.
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This will be the worst ever idea, probably only 5 persons will watch an entire season based on Brienne.

Did Martin said that the producers know what will happen? I am thinking that in case the show catches the novels (which is very likely cause in no way I can see Martin finishing both final books in five years) could it be that the show will continue the story which Martin will tell them, and then some years after it we will see the final book.
 
Zen said:
tbh, the ages barely matter, only the Stark kids would you truly notice it with. I reckon they'll eventually go with 18-24 months gaps, probably the best solution really.
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It would be a neat way of handling a gap of a few years between seasons though. Plus it would give them a chance to cut through some of the less interesting stuff on the later books. Don't think they'll actually do it but that's the way I'd handle an enforced gap between seasons anyway.
 
Revan said:
This will be the worst ever idea, probably only 5 persons will watch an entire season based on Brienne.

Did Martin said that the producers know what will happen? I am thinking that in case the show catches the novels (which is very likely cause in no way I can see Martin finishing both final books in five years) could it be that the show will continue the story which Martin will tell them, and then some years after it we will see the final book.
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Almost certainly what will happen. Kinda sucks that we'll know how the series ends way before the final book comes out, interest in the books might drop a bit. Think I'd be happier if the TV show ended up diverging from the books at that stage.
 
Cina said:
It's far, far too popular for HBO to just stop it or stall it though. They'll find a way to air it yearly, for sure.
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Sopranos was bigger.....HBO cares about quality just as much as it cares about money.
 
sullydnl said:
Almost certainly what will happen. Kinda sucks that we'll know how the series ends way before the final book comes out, interest in the books might drop a bit. Think I'd be happier if the TV show ended up diverging from the books at that stage.
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I wouldn't care, the books are much better and deserves to be read regardless if we know what will happen. Didn't had a problem reading the first two books after I watched the show.

I really would hate if the TV show and the final book will diverge as much as becoming different.

Zen said:
Sopranos was bigger.....HBO cares about quality just as much as it cares about money.
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Series producers declared that stopping the show for some time is not an option.
 
I think it has higher ratings than The Sopranos did, no? Plus DVD sales and such, it's a massive money maker for them.

Also I don't think it was HBO's decision to stall The Sopranos (the gap between seasons five and six was 18 months I think), it was the writers, and I think the writers of GoT have said already they don't want to stall it.
 
Sopranos peaked at like 13m viewers for a premiere at least, averaged around 11m around its peak. GoT did about 7m this weekend, and will probably end up averaging about 6-6.5m, so some way off. I'm not really questioning it's popularity(it's a monster hit), just that if needs be and all parties agree, HBO has no problem with changing production schedules, means they get it for longer anyway. That's a very likely scenario, even if a prequel series happens, it's still gonna mean an even longer production break for the main series.
 
Solius said:
Would be cool to see a few prequel things though as Martin has said we won't see anything from then. Stuff like the Tower of Joy and the whole Robert's Rebellion era would be interesting to see.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a young Robert and Ned kicking some arse.
 
Zen said:
Sopranos peaked at like 13m viewers for a premiere at least, averaged around 11m around its peak. GoT did about 7m this weekend, and will probably end up averaging about 6-6.5m, so some way off. I'm not really questioning it's popularity(it's a monster hit), just that if needs be and all parties agree, HBO has no problem with changing production schedules, means they get it for longer anyway. That's a very likely scenario, even if a prequel series happens, it's still gonna mean an even longer production break for the main series.
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Fairy nuff, 13m is a crazy number for a cable show!
 
I thought they might try and make Catelyn more likeable in the show than the books but that doesn't look to be the case. Her scene was quite good I thought.

The Margeary-Joffrey scene was interesting too. We didn't get anything like that in the book I don't think.
 
Scrumpet said:
I thought they might try and make Catelyn more likeable in the show than the books but that doesn't look to be the case. Her scene was quite good I thought.

The Margeary-Joffrey scene was interesting too. We didn't get anything like that in the book I don't think.
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I think the changes they've made to Margeary in the show are working really well, one of the more interesting characters at the moment. It'll be kinda weird when she's engaged to Tommen though...
 
That bit at the end with Jaime and Brienne. Where are they going with that? Because he doesn't get captured again. You've got the river bit where they're being chased, maybe it'll be that but I don't know where they'll be going from the bridge.

When they were fighting I thought it was going to be the bit where Vargo Hoat finds them and cuts of Jaime's hand. Don't think Hoat is in the show though.
 
I haven't watched any of Series 3 yet. I need to catch up with it.

I've given all the books out to friends so I can't catch up on the lesser characters I've forgotten about. I've forgotten some details about the 3rd book, which is a shame because it's definitely the best of the series so far.

I'm actually a bit worried about the quality of the future seasons, because books 4 and 5 really are nothing on books 1-3.
 
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