Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

fishfingers15 said:
This. We don't care about leaks and all that nonsense. I've read a couple of @robinamicrowave's posts and I think he goes to great lengths to defend the show, like a lite JustaFan.



You've been doing that for a while in the other thread. Why don't you let it go?
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He's the one who can't let it go and admit he clearly read the leaks in the face of overwhelming evidence.
 
Scarecrow said:
Don't bring the other thread's drama in here, please. Nobody gives a feck.
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Agreed. Some very sensitive folk over there. I even took flak for welcoming @robinamicrowave back after his ban. Imagine being that arsed!

I just thought it was hilarious, hence why I kept quoting the 'offending' post. The brass neck on the fecker! ("I'm going to guess at a timeline" :lol:)
 
Massive Spanner said:
He's the one who can't let it go and admit he clearly read the leaks in the face of overwhelming evidence.
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I've tried letting it go because I don't think the moderators need the hassle, but if people keep bringing it up then I'm going to keep defending myself until it stops. It's that simple really.
 
Buchan said:
Agreed. Some very sensitive folk over there. I even took flak for welcoming @robinamicrowave back after his ban. Imagine being that arsed!

I just thought it was hilarious, hence why I kept quoting the 'offending' post. The brass neck on the fecker! ("I'm going to guess at a timeline" :lol:)
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:lol::lol: He's brazen I'll give him that.
 
fishfingers15 said:
Robin (yes, I know your name is Rob), just ignore for a while. It'll go away
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I don't mind the jokes. If people believe I've done something wrong and they're willing to play around, then fair enough. The entire thing is supposed to be a bit of fun, hence why I'm not really responding to people who are having a laugh about it. It's more people like Massive Spanner who seems to be following me around the thread at the moment, telling me to feck off and whatnot, that I'm hoping will just give in soon enough. I don't want to clog this thread up with non-show/book chat.
 
robinamicrowave said:
Again I must stress that about half of these predictions have turned out to be completely wrong. Castle Black still stands; there's been next to nothing about Valyrian steel mentioned this season (especially not at the Citadel); Jon went to Dragonstone for three episodes as opposed to going straight to The Wall; Brienne had no wise words to bring to the table because she was off in King's Landing; Jon and Baelish didn't talk about his lineage, they instead spoke about Sansa. I could go on and on with things I called wrong.

And once again I must stress that anybody could work this stuff out if they spent as much time as I do wondering about where the plot was heading. Was I aware of the leaks at this point? Yes, but I avoided them. I found out last season that Tommen was going to commit suicide and that delicate, tragic scene was slightly ruined for me when I first watched the s6 finale. Hell, I even avoided watching the leaked version of The Spoils of War for two days until I got bored on a Saturday afternoon and watched it. While I was snooping around Reddit looking for it, I noticed they also had the leaked plot outlines stickied to the top of the noticeboard. Once episode four was over I read episode five's script, once episode five was over I read episode six's script, and so on and so on.

I'm trying to move past this whole fiasco and get back into the TV thread but if people are going to keep dragging me up then it's never going to get put to rest. As I said in that long post earlier in this thread: for a group of Game of Thrones fans who have spent the last eighteen months criticising how predictable it has become, the treatment of people who managed to correctly predict about 50% of the events has been fecking strange.
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Stop embarassing yourself. So you changed a few details so that it wouldn't be too obvious, well guess it still was clear as day that you read the leaks. It's one thing to vaguely predict an event like Sansa taking down Littlefinger, I guessed that myself since they've been hinting at that for a while. It's a complete other thing to 'predict' the whole timeline with every detail. Same with Sam "discovering something to do with Rhaegar and Lyanna" and then meeting Bran to put the pieces together. That's a ridiculous guess and it's plain obvious that only someone who've read the leaks would come to that conclusion.

You had the chance to come clean but your explanations how you 'put things together based on trailers' is more than pathetic, so I'd rather stop posting in the GOT threads all together.
 
Kasper said:
Stop embarassing yourself. So you changed a few details so that it wouldn't be too obvious, well guess it still was clear as day that you read the leaks. It's one thing to vaguely predict an event like Sansa taking down Littlefinger, I guessed that myself since they've been hinting at that for a while. It's a complete other thing to 'predict' the whole timeline with every detail. Same with Sam "discovering something to do with Rhaegar and Lyanna" and then meeting Bran to put the pieces together. That's a ridiculous guess and it's plain obvious that only someone who've read the leaks would come to that conclusion.

You had the chance to come clean but your explanations how you 'put things together based on trailers' is more than pathetic, so I'd rather stop posting in the GOT threads all together.
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Now you're just making things up. If you can guess that Sansa will take down Littlefinger then why can't I guess that Sam would find out something to do with Rhaegar and Lyanna at the biggest fecking library in the world? He was sent on a fact-finding mission and he was there to cure Jorah's greyscale. He served his plot purpose and left.

You know, you're beginning to sound like them lot over at Bluemoon who are convinced the FA are trying to work against us. Even when we get dodgy decisions in our favour it's apparently still part of the grand conspiracy, that we're given dodgy penalties to cover up the fact that the FA really hate us. So even when I get things wrong about Game of Thrones it's still all part of my devious plan? Give me a break.
 
Kasper said:
Stop embarassing yourself. So you changed a few details so that it wouldn't be too obvious, well guess it still was clear as day that you read the leaks. It's one thing to vaguely predict an event like Sansa taking down Littlefinger, I guessed that myself since they've been hinting at that for a while. It's a complete other thing to 'predict' the whole timeline with every detail. Same with Sam "discovering something to do with Rhaegar and Lyanna" and then meeting Bran to put the pieces together. That's a ridiculous guess and it's plain obvious that only someone who've read the leaks would come to that conclusion.

You had the chance to come clean but your explanations how you 'put things together based on trailers' is more than pathetic, so I'd rather stop posting in the GOT threads all together.
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Well, there is always a chance that Robin put it all together himself. You can't really be sure unless you have a 24 hour video cam on Robin's life.

Now I'm caught in two minds about Robin posting in this thread because he is attracting a bunch of posters who are borderline clueless about the books and whinge about spoilers all the time just to have a pop at him.
 
fishfingers15 said:
Well, there is always a chance that Robin put it all together himself. You can't really be sure unless you have a 24 hour video cam on Robin's life.

Now I'm caught in two minds about Robin posting in this thread because he is attracting a bunch of posters who are borderline clueless about the books and whinge about spoilers all the time just to have a pop at him.
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In february after someone posted the poster of the NK riding an ice dragon:
robinamicrowave said:
It's a fanmade/fake poster based on sketchy details of an unverified leak, which was derived mainly from reported cast member locations at various points during the filming process over winter.

I don't see the big deal.
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In April:
robinamicrowave said:
She won't do a deal with them because they can't talk, but I imagine she'll think "Pah, they can destroy the houses in the North and then we'll defeat them on our own later" - I imagine that's when Jaime will finally give up and feck off up north somewhere.
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But sure, there is a chance that he hasn't read any leaks and put it all together by himself:rolleyes:

With regards to your second paragraph: I've read the books and posted in this thread before.
 
Kasper said:
In february after someone posted the poster of the NK riding an ice dragon:

In April:


But sure, there is a chance that he hasn't read any leaks and put it all together by himself:rolleyes:

With regards to your second paragraph: I've read the books and posted in this thread before.
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*sigh* The rest of the posters in this thread will get tired of this before we do.

Again, it doesn't take a genius to think that Cersei would become delusional with power and isolate herself because she was already doing just that when season 6 finished. When Jaime returned from Riverrun at the end of season 6 he was already done with her. To complete his arc Jaime has to kill Cersei as far as I'm concerned, and he can't kill her unless he gives up on her first.

As for the Night King fan poster being based on a leak back in February, you're asking me to retrace steps I didn't think to memorise at the time.Most leaks that come out that early are bullshit, just like the ones being posted about season 8 now, so nobody puts stock in them. At that time, the Night King sitting atop The Wall on a dragon in season 7 was as likely as Jaqen H'gar turning up at Winterfell in a mask to come and see Arya in season 8. It's all fanfiction at that stage regardless of how much comes true.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
She ran to Cersei crying about being sent away, that was it really. As much of a sociopath Arya is, she isn't stupid enough to think Sansa deliberately did that knowing how it'd have panned out.

The letter thing in the show is weak.
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What about lying about what happened with Nymeria and Jofferey? The last line where she's gone the whole day and never even wondered where her sister was is great writing.
 
Freedom Aluteni said:
What about lying about what happened with Nymeria and Jofferey? The last line where she's gone the whole day and never even wondered where her sister was is great writing.
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That was before they even reached KL.

She played her part in their House's downfall, unwittingly, just like Robb, or Ned, or Catelyn.
 
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InfiniteBoredom said:
That was before they even reached KL.

She played her part in their House's downfall, unwittingly, just like Robb, or Ned, or Catelyn.
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But only Sansa consciously chose the LAnnisters over her own house. She betrayed her father and her sister for them. She only changed her tune after Ned was killed and Joff had the Hound abuse her.
 
Freedom Aluteni said:
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But only Sansa consciously chose the LAnnisters over her own house. She betrayed her father and her sister for them. She only changed her tune after Ned was killed and Joff had the Hound abuse her.
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She chose herself over them, not Lannisters. She was a pampered kid who was taught to dream all her life about the Southron high life and a handsome prince.

Arya has no compunction about killing, but she doesn't do that indiscriminately. She's smart enough to understand.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
She chose herself over them, not Lannisters. She was a pampered kid who was taught to dream all her life about the Southron high life and a handsome prince.

Arya has no compunction about killing, but she doesn't do that indiscriminately. She's smart enough to understand.
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She chose Joffrey. And she chose to run and listen to the queen and directly disobey her father's orders. She should have been trying to protect her little sister but instead was dreaming about wedding Lannisters. Even after spending a day prisoner in her room, with all her father's staff probably killed and no sign of her sister, she still chose to listen to the people who were trying to harm her family. Definitely her mother's daughter, the way she always referred to Jon as her bastard half-brother is sickening. Hope Arya does her in TWOW.
 
Freedom Aluteni said:
She chose Joffrey. And she chose to run and listen to the queen and directly disobey her father's orders. She should have been trying to protect her little sister but instead was dreaming about wedding Lannisters. Even after spending a day prisoner in her room, with all her father's staff probably killed and no sign of her sister, she still chose to listen to the people who were trying to harm her family. Definitely her mother's daughter, the way she always referred to Jon as her bastard half-brother is sickening. Hope Arya does her in TWOW.
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I'm not saying she wasn't a massive little cnut early on in the books, but the logic behind her action is her own dreams and desires, in her mind it wasn't Starks vs Lannisters, it was getting what she wants vs not.
 
Kasper said:
In february after someone posted the poster of the NK riding an ice dragon:

In April:


But sure, there is a chance that he hasn't read any leaks and put it all together by himself:rolleyes:

With regards to your second paragraph: I've read the books and posted in this thread before.
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Well, I wasn't specifically talking about you but you can see the invasion because some numpty posted in the show thread about robin making an appearance.
 
I don't think anyone cares about making up the leaks, it's a bloody internet forum about a fictional show. It's the consistent denials. It's done with now and I'm sure you'll derive the same enjoyment posting in here as the other thread and the obvious banter you'll get for well.. the rest of your time on the caf.
 
A tiny bit of news from last week. Jeremy Podeswa, who's been a director since season 5, won't be returning for season 8. This suggests to me that for the final six episodes they're going to bring the A-team of directors: Miguel Sapochnik, Neil Marshall, David Nutter, Michelle MacLaren and Jack Bender to choose from, in my view.
 
Revan said:
Who did 'The Winds of Winter'? I want him to direct every episode.
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Miguel Sapochnik. He also did 'Hardhome' and 'Battle of the Bastards' - to be blunt, the guy is fecking brilliant.
 
robinamicrowave said:
Miguel Sapochnik. He also did 'Hardhome' and 'Battle of the Bastards' - to be blunt, the guy is fecking brilliant.
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I didn't like too much Battle of the Bastards, but 'The Winds of Winter' is probably my favorite episode in any TV show, and battle of Hardhome was freaking brilliant. Those two episodes, together with 'Rains of Castamere', 'The Spoils of War' and 'Baelor' are the best episodes in the show. With Hardhome actually being invented only for the show, which makes it extra brilliant.
 
Screw the directors, the show needs better writers more than anything. How about that guy George RR Martin, he's supposed to be good at fantasy.
 
Freedom Aluteni said:
Where are the books?
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Mostly in bookshops mate.
If you mean in terms of timeline.. They end at "For the Watch". Some stories are a little further on than that stage on t.v, some a little behind but end of Season 5 is a good approximation.
 
Writers and directors have been announced for season 8! Dave Hill, Bryan Cogman and D&D are the writers, David Nutter, Miguel Sapochnik and D&D are the directors. Hoping the following is the outline:

Episode 1
Writer: Dave Hill (Previous episodes - Sons of the Harpy, Home, Eastwatch; average IMDb episode score - 9.1)
Director: David Nutter (Previous episodes - The Old Gods and the New, A Man Without Honour, The Rains of Castamere, Mhysa, The Dance of Dragons, Mother's Mercy; average IMDb score - 9.26)

Episode 2
Writer: Bryan Cogman (Previous episodes - Cripples Bastards and Broken Things, What is Dead May Never Die, Kissed By Fire, Oathkeeper, The Laws of Gods and Men, Kill the Boy, Unbowed Unbent Unbroken, Blood of My Blood, The Broken Man, Stormborn; average IMDb score - 8.82)
Director: David Nutter

Episode 3
Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss (Previous episodes - too many to mention really)
Director: Miguel Sapochnik (Previous episodes - The Gift, Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards, The Winds of Winter; average episode score - 9.7)

Episode 4
Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: Miguel Sapochnik

Episode 5
Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: Miguel Sapochnik

Episode 6
Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
 
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