The Others aren't haggard, ice mummies in the book. They are described as beautiful. I think a female Other is perfectly in line with Martin's description.
Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?
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Yeah. They have a language with which they communicate with each other. The show would have us believe that the Others have some kind of telepathic communication ability
GRRM may take an approach like Hobbit and the Five armies battle. There is not a lot of details about Five armies battle in the Hobbit book. With very little details about Others so far, he may keep the details light and conclude with what happened at the end of the battle.
On Skagos in the books. Dead in the show.
Remind me how he died again in the show?
Ramsey, arrow..
Should've fecking zig-zagged.
He looks like a teenager there. Just 6 years old in the books though. Imagine that scene if they kept him the same age.
Yeah but you don't see it, really. Just the thought of seeing a 6 year old child running that field with a look of dread, getting pierced by an arrow in the back... that's just next level cruelty.Book Arya's a merciless killer and she's like fecking 11.
It's not the same when it's a teenager, sorry. Although it was a great scene, that. One my favorite episodes.
It's only going to get worse in season 8 isn't it?
Pretty sure it will be totally ludicrous.
Pretty sure it will be totally ludicrous.
Kinda funny thinking how when Jon and Stannis were both at the Wall, it was a meeting between the rightful Targaryen King and the rightful Baratheon one.
My hope is that since GRRM gave them the eventual fates of each character, they'll be more confident in where they're going because they have a more focused end goal in sight. Whereas this season was more akin to a bridge between the end of the source material they had and the eventual ending of the story. Still, considering how the writing gets worse each season...
That would have been Gendry.
Nah he's a bastard. Stannis was the rightful king in the show and books.
See someone just got their pants pulled down in the TV thread for "predicting" stuff.....despite the script leaks being clear as day for months. I got threadbanned for nothing much, surely passing off script leaks as your own predictions should be a full banning for a week or two?
To be fair, I've seen this everywhere. No one wanting to admit they read the leaks. But happily passing them off as their own predictions.
To be fair, I've seen this everywhere. No one wanting to admit they read the leaks. But happily passing them off as their own predictions.
What's their end-game in pursuing such a thing, though? Virtual high-fives and "Aren't you great?" comments? The lengths some go to pass off the leaks as their own thoughts really is baffling.
Surely, dead or not, the NK can't ride a dragon unless he's a targ?
Are you a book reader?
I'm a partial book reader, still working my Way through
Where are you at?
The NK (in terms of a WW leader) doesn't exist in the books, at least not in the first 5. If he did, he wouldn't be a Targaryen, nor is he a Targaryen in the show's lore, if we assume that it's the same guy that we saw The Children create. The Targaryens didn't exist at that time, or if they did - they were poor sheep herders on the other side of the world.
Also, the only ones saying you can't ride a dragon unless you're a Targaryen are the Targaryens. That's neat, isn't it?
In the context of Westeros. There are clear records of other Valyrian dragonlords.
It'd be interesting to see if Dragonbinder works as expected in the books. Claim the horn with blood, yes, but what kind of blood?
Yes, but the same goes for the Valyrians, in general. They would claim you need their blood to ride a dragon but I don't think it's been confirmed by an impartial source. Sure, they used magic to tame the first dragons but who's to say someone else can't do that? If you even need it.
We have the Seeds in the Dance. Targ bastards and common men of Westeros tried to tame the 6 wild and riderless dragons, only the former succeeded.
So I've just started reading the first book (properly this time)... see you all in about five years.
Edit: The Dany/Drogo wedding night is...different...ew.
Edit: The Dany/Drogo wedding night is...different...ew.
It's never actually confirmed if those who succeeded did have Valyrian blood. It's presumed so, because they did succeed.
We actually know how one of them (not confirmed to have any valyrian blood) tames a dragon and it's basically by feeding him regularly. Similar to a normal animal.
I'm just slightly ahead of you, mate. I'm about 250 pages into Game of Thrones at present. I'm loving the Littlefinger character. So many great lines.
There was a common girl who ended up riding a dragon surely?
What we know is the ones who succeeded hailed from Dragonstones, considering that the island itself is doubtful to have any magical property prior Targaryen arrival, it's unlikely those weren't Targ bastard.
All of them were common. Nettles was just noted for her unconventional method of taming Sheepstealer.
Anyway, I'm sure we can all agree that the NK is no Targ.
He might be no targ but he can control the dead so it makes perfect sense he can ride a dead dragon, or a dead bear or a dead giant if he really wants to.
Just re-watched the first two episodes of season 1 to remind myself how great the show was. Season 1 is just a perfect adaption. Crazy to see the Starks basically go their separate ways in the second episode! Jon hasn't seen Arya since.
I was worried that I'd be comparing it to the show, and maybe getting lost with some of the different characters, but the writing is so solid that it hasn't been a problem.
I read the first book and part of the second book a while back, but decided I likes the TV adaptation better. Now that the adaptation has taken a turn for the worse (in my eyes), I'm thinking to go back to the books. Do you reckon I could get away with going straight into the 5th book?
No.
Even if you leave out the 3rd book, the 4th book and the 5th book are essentially 1 book divided into 2 parts. I would suggest reading the 4th book before the 5th book.
Of course the best thing would be to read all the books
Id say the only book you could get away with skipping is the first one but I wouldn't recommend it.
I've been threadbanned by KM from the TV thread so I took a couple of days out for things to blow over. I've exchanged a couple of PMs with Redlambs and KM, and while Redlambs has given me the benefit of the doubt, there's no way back in for me with regards to KM. I'll ask him again at some point but not yet, he doesn't need it.
I was going to give myself a week off and let things calm down but it seems that my name keeps getting dragged up so I might as well try to defend myself. I'll happily admit I read the leaks on a week by week basis after episode four was leaked, but not before. I watched episode 4, read the leaks for episode 5, watched episode 5, read the leaks for episode 6, etc. I was always careful to not post anything that would ruin the show for others. Personally I don't care about spoilers all that much but others do and I attempted to respect that.
Before I read the leaks following episode four, though, every theory I posted was based on stuff you could find in public. Mainly trailer footage, reading into media appearances from the cast, that sort of thing. Once a picture of Maisie Williams holding Littlefinger's dagger appeared in Entertainment Weekly it seemed obvious to me that she would kill him at some stage. Once the trailer showed Bran at the Winterfell godswood it seemed obvious to me that he'd use his powers to help Arya figure things out before Sansa's life was endangered. Did I get it all correct? No. In my mind I had Jon going beyond The Wall in episode two because the trailer only showed him at Winterfell and fighting wights in the ice, as opposed to his three episode trip to Dragonstone.
And with regards to my prediction about the Night King breaching The Wall, in my head I initially had Castle Black down as the target of the Night King's army until they name-dropped Eastwatch three times in the first episode of the season. How they got through The Wall was still a mystery to me but ever since they announced the show would be ending at season 8, the last moment of the penultimate season was always going to be the Night King descending on Westeros somehow. Considering so many people on this forum have criticised the show for becoming too predictable since season 6, the treatment of people who manage to correctly predict about 50% of what happens is unusual.
Once episode 6 was over I implied to someone that Sansa wasn't being an idiot by sending Brienne away. But that was only when a user on here seemed either panicked or irritated at her character progression this season. But even that turned out to be wrong, as interviews with Isaac Hempstead-Wright (Bran) and Jeremy Podeswa (the director) have revealed since. It turns out Sansa was just being an idiot and that her decision to send Brienne to King's Landing wasn't her staying one step ahead of Littlefinger. It turns out there was a scene cut from the script that involved Sansa going to Bran's chambers and asking him for help in the night after her final talk with Littlefinger.
I love Game of Thrones. I've seen every episode at least four times, I rewatch classic episodes regularly, I read about it, talk about it, watch reaction series' and listen to podcasts about it, follow blogs that focus on production dates and cast appearances in the media. It's a huge hobby of mine. It's become that much of a big deal for me because of how much I enjoy watching it. I wouldn't want to deliberately spoil the show for others because it would ultimately prevent them from loving the show as much as I do. And what would have happened if I'd posted accurate leaks? Well, exactly what's happened to me this week. I get threadbanned and I'm prevented from talking about a show I love with others who feel as passionately about it as I do, my name essentially dragged through the mud.
That was always going to happen and it's why I didn't bother doing it.
KM says I'm allowed in the book thread for now to discuss the show and I thank him for that. The only way for this to blow over is to keep posting. Redlambs says I'll have the shit ripped out of me and that's fine now I think about it, and there will be some posters who won't budge. Both of those things are fine. But it sucks that any theory I post in the future will now be under more scrutiny than anyone else's because of what's happened. It also means that any theory I post will automatically be regarded as a leak. Say I predict that Tormund and Beric made it out alive and headed east to Castle Black to warn them, or that the Great War will be sorted by episode four of the new season - they're both perfectly logical plotpoints but because of what I've been accused of this week, the case could be argued against me again.
I'm hoping that, by the time season 8 comes round, this whole matter is dealt with and things can go back to normal. As Redlambs implied to me over PM, that process only starts if I carry on posting.