Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?
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They looked so young lol
Nikolaj is not ageing well.
That was spectacular and badly written!!! All in one go 
Jaime's so great:
Show guys finally caught onto people reading speculation and passing it off as their own
RedSky won't be taking that kindly. Surely this Varys is a Targ nonsense is from the forums.
RedSky won't be taking that kindly. Surely this Varys is a Targ nonsense is from the forums.
I don't know if anyone caught it, but on the 'behind the episode' videos on YouTube, D&D spoke at length about how they'd been throbbing for a zombie polar-bear for over 4 seasons. Awesome-sauce producers.
I was wondering what the purpose of that scene was. Predictably, there wasn't any. Guess that's the reason we haven't seen Ghost in 2 seasons.
They completely wasted Thoros' death. Would've been better to kill him during the battle with the wights, to show that they're not completely useless and do pose some threat. You know, create some much needed tension. Even better if Beric got gravely injured but everyone's like "chill, Thoros will sort him out" and the next shot is him getting a sword in his back.
The shot where the fellowship is in a back-to-back circle waiting for the bear was awesome though.
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Yeap, Occam's Razor works best, don't try to ascribe any level of thoughfulness to those clowns.
It's a clear pattern with their BTS after any memorable episode, just watch them and keep counting how many time they orgasmed over the spectacle/production value.
Well, they may be just playing the crowd with their after interviews. Snow bear was cool though. Storytelling was NOT. In a way, 'It's a show where a dragon is born la' crowd has also realized that so much quality and story telling is going to shit with the urge to finish storylines and kill off characters. I hope to God book is better.
I've started the Great Hunt today though
I have no problem with the people who freely admit that they couldnt care less about the story, just came for the tits and dragons. Taste is subjective. It's folks who keep coming up with increasingly strenuous excuses to defend the two morons that gets on my tits, Trump cult follower-level behaviour.Well, they may be just playing the crowd with their after interviews. Snow bear was cool though. Storytelling was NOT. In a way, 'It's a show where a dragon is born la' crowd has also realized that so much quality and story telling is going to shit with the urge to finish storylines and kill off characters. I hope to God book is better.
I've started the Great Hunt today though
There's a mountain of evidence through interviews, behind the scene clips etc... that point to them not giving much thought to the story and impervious to any kind of criticisms. Actresses on the show have objected to the needless, juvenile use of female nudity to little avail, yet somehow they are still regarded by some as the David O. Selznick of this age.
The direction the TV show has gone in does seem to be largely down to a demand from a big portion of the audience to spoon feed them shit and cut out anything at all thats a bit complicated. I wonder if we will get to where The Matrix films got where it just ended in the goodies and the baddies knocking into each other in scenes reminiscent of an 8 year old boy's bedroom fight between Cyclops and Wolverine action figures.
New episode is called The Dragon and the Wolf. Think we know what that is about and I don't think it is or rather is solely about Jon and Dany.
There are no surprises in this season anymore
Yeah pretty much.
They have a fair few loose ends to tie off this season, so even though its a much longer episode, 74 odd minutes, I still get the impression that its going to be very choppy.
Lets go through the checklist of the so termed 'lesser characters':
Yara
Elaria
Euron
Greyworm seige
Samwell
Theon
LittleFinger/Arya/Sansa
Melisandre
And then theres the main plot with Cersei, Dany, Jon etc. Going to be a busy one when you factor in all of the probable flashback stuff too.
Lets go through the checklist of the so termed 'lesser characters':
Yara
Elaria
Euron
Greyworm seige
Samwell
Theon
LittleFinger/Arya/Sansa
Melisandre
And then theres the main plot with Cersei, Dany, Jon etc. Going to be a busy one when you factor in all of the probable flashback stuff too.
I honestly don't think they will address all of those in this episode. I think they will just not mention a couple and continue in the next season.
The books are a couple of years behind the show now in terms of timing.
In fact, I'd suggest that this 7 episode arc will have spanned the better part of a year or more, whereas the first two entire seasons covered something like 8 months.
Episodes 2 and 3 or 3 and 4 alone covered almost 6 months time by my estimations based on the traveling that occurred.
I think we are done with Ellaria Sand in the show. As for the other characters, I've already read the leaks, so I will not spoil it for you.
This season I think is meant to be just one half in the same vein how the last season of Breaking Bad was broken up in 2.We won't see all loose ends ticked off.
This was my thinking when they announced last year that there was only going to be thirteen more episodes. Split season seven in half, essentially.
I did assume an 18 month period between Jon's death (last even in the books) and Danny's invasion, which I think is fairly reasonable. That's how I estimated the dragons' age at about 3 years. They're just over a year and a half by the end of the fifth book.
The widening story gap between books and show in the last two seasons could very well lead to two entirely different timelines past book 5 though.
Also, I don't know about the seasons but the first two books had a roughly one year span each. Books 3-5 take just about 9-10 months combined as a lot of story arcs overlap there.
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I was going by the show, it's been like 12 years since I read the first few books.
Don't know even what to discuss any more, show has completely derailed the books.
Just treat them as two completely separate entities. I don't think there would be many similarities between the two in the future, anyway. All things point to two completely different stories with similar endings.
He does watch some episodes, I remember some entries in recent months. However, there is a widely shared opinion among the fanbase that the only reason D&D ever got their hands on the right was HBO. Martin saw what they achieved with Rome and what happened to Dune and WoT, he wouldnt want ASOIAF to be stuck in the same development hell.
Also, pretty much confirmed here that we'll be getting Dance of the Dragons as GoT successor show.
That would be expensive.
Most of the sets are scouted and built from GoT, new actors contract will be cheap, costumes/armours/weapons are already made. They can save plenty of money on those fronts and concentrate on the CGI and battle scenes.
The first season or two will also be mild on the action side anyway, all the intrigues in King's Landing, Daemon's marriages and conquest of the Steptones etc...
Those cheap contracts would soon balloon though. And the battles would be incredibly expensive. Think about how little actual screen time the dragons on GOT have had. There's no such option in DoD. Dragons are not only more numerous and larger but also used much more often - for transport and battle.
I don't actually know how expensive the dragon CGI is, to be fair, but I've been left with the impression that it's one of the bigger parts in the GOT budget and they barely even feature there.
Anyway, I'd love to see it but I'm disappointed with the comments on the Rebellion. I don't agree with the reasoning. What "twists" are there in the DoD?
Depends on how many seasons they make it. The advantage here is the story is written, all finished, so they can map out the whole thing and tie those actors for 3/4/5 seasons from the beginning and avoid the astronomical wages they are paying the current cast. There would also be a lot less big characters. You have Rhanyera, Daemon, Viserys I, Criston Cole, Aegon II and Alicent Hightower, one of them would die after one season ala Ned Stark.
I think the costs saved from logistics/personnel would be very substantial, enough to cover a few more episodes of Dragons. They can always cut a few battle like Aemond vs Lucerys Velaryon or the Battle of the Gullet. Focus on Battle above the God's Eye or Storming of the Dragon Pit for example.
The 'twists' I think is with the wider audience, not dedicated book fans. If heaven forbids one day Dunk and Egg is all written and adapted, same logic would apply.
Can someone remind me, has the Horn of Winter featured in the show?
Nope.
Around 18 alone in the Sept of Baelor...
(Come to think of it, that was a pivotal moment for the series as a whole. The point where the writers decided, feck it, writing plotlines for all these characters with myriads of different motives and allegiances is really too exhausting. Let's blow everyone up and have more dragon and zombie stuff.)
Around 18 alone in the Sept of Baelor...
(Come to think of it, that was a pivotal moment for the series as a whole. The point where the writers decided, feck it, writing plotlines for all these characters with myriads of different motives and allegiances is really too exhausting. Let's blow everyone up and have more dragon and zombie stuff.)
Yeah pretty much! They gave a taste of what was to come by deciding to wash their hands of Doran, Areo and Trystane over the course of about three minutes.Pretty excited about this finale, especially given its length. Hoping to see Jon's parentage revealed and at least one major character taken out.
Really hope we don't see Littlefinger going out crying and begging like that in the books. Not his style IMO.
Why not. He's known to be a survivor. Survival and honour don't mix. He'd do anything to stay alive, including begging for mercy.
Yeah maybe. I think it's just cause I actually really like his (book) character.