Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

Wonder what the Golden Company are gonna bring to the table next year.
 
I guess they didn't cut Aegon Targaryen from the show after all...
 
So, based on the finale, its clear that the script leaks for S08E01 & 2 are real.
 
Far too many leaks of S8. I don't think anyone is right. The one I read is fecking ridiculous. There are apparently two more different versions.
 
It got a bit weird and really really really Hollywood-y from 3-6 but 1-2 plot lines checks out with the set up we have presently.
I'd say that's because they were based on the season 7 leaks. Don't think they are actually real.
 
It got a bit weird and really really really Hollywood-y from 3-6 but 1-2 plot lines checks out with the set up we have presently.
That's no proof. Anyone who wrote the S8 leaks already had access to the entire season 7 plot. Of course they'd connect it. @bleedred

I wouldn't be surprised if the leaks for the first two episodes are real. The rest is such drivel that it simply cannot be true.
 
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Wonder what the Golden Company are gonna bring to the table next year.

Faceless nameless badass soldiers for Cersei to match the Unsullied and Dothraki (better combat soldiers + Elephants > horses)

Interesting question is whether Cersei even needed the Iron Bank of Braavos to buy them- they are Westerosi Exiles who were stripped of all lands and titles- many of these by the Mad King- all of them by Targaryens. She may have been able to promise return from exile with lands and titles given the power vacuum that the show glosses over.
 
I'll try not to moan too much about this one. All I'm going to say is that it was done very much in the overall Season 7 style. Also, the dragon / wall scene was gorgeous.

Just one more thing - KL has a million people, more than The North combined. Yeah. :lol:
Why do they have to do things like that?
 
I absolutely love how the season finale didn't go longer than 1 minute before we had a full blown conversation about cocks. Can always count on this show for ham-fisted crudity.
 
Just treat them as two completely separate entities. I don't think there would be many similarities between the two in the future, anyway. All things point to two completely different stories with similar endings.

Nothing knew in the books to discuss then mate...I guess ice dragons are confirmed, that's about all I could take haha. Still to watch the last episode though
 
Nothing knew in the books to discuss then mate...I guess ice dragons are confirmed, that's about all I could take haha. Still to watch the last episode though

It isn't.

The Ice Dragon is a children tale Martin wrote in 1980. It's not in the ASOIAF universe.
 
That's no proof. Anyone who wrote the S8 leaks already had access to the entire season 7 plot. Of course they'd connect it. @bleedred

I wouldn't be surprised if the leaks for the first two episodes are real. The rest is such drivel that it simply cannot be true.

Yeah, I was talking about the first 2 episodes and it clearly checks out with the season 7 finale.

I actually havent read the leak for other episodes.
 
There were supposed to be ice dragons in the island of Ib. Multiple sources confirm this according to maesters, but there is no proof like skeletons as they melt when they die.
Yeah I read that, but people often pointed to that novella as proof of the creature existing in ASOIAF. As far as we are concerned it's just an unsubstantiated tale as of this point in the books.

Wouldn't put it above him to troll us with the Horn of Joramun for years and then go the un-dragon path, but it contradicted his own lores as well since dragons are fire made flesh and using ice magic to resurrect them is odd to say the least.
 
Yeah I read that, but people often pointed to that novella as proof of the creature existing in ASOIAF. As far as we are concerned it's just an unsubstantiated tale as of this point in the books.

Wouldn't put it above him to troll us with the Horn of Joramun for years and then go the un-dragon path, but it contradicted his own lores as well since dragons are fire made flesh and using ice magic to resurrect them is odd to say the least.

Yeah I'm pretty sure the Horn of Jaromun and the Dragonbinder will play a part in the books
 
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out seeing an undead dragon in the books but I don't think that's how they get past the wall. The "Night King" is basically a show invention, isn't he? I don't think we've seen a WW leader in the books? Seems to me like they've introduced him to do what Euron does in the books (bring down the Wall).
 
Yeah, I wouldn't rule out seeing an undead dragon in the books but I don't think that's how they get past the wall. The "Night King" is basically a show invention, isn't he? I don't think we've seen a WW leader in the books? Seems to me like they've introduced him to do what Euron does in the books (bring down the Wall).

No, there is mention of a 'Night's King'. He is speculated to be the brother of Brandon the breaker (The king of Winter) who married a sorceress who was white as snow and cold as ice. He was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and he doesn't know fear and he was a great warrior. He isn't the leader of the Others, but the stories told to Bran indicates that he made sacrifices to Others.
 
No, there is mention of a 'Night's King'. He is speculated to be the brother of Brandon the breaker (The king of Winter) who married a sorceress who was white as snow and cold as ice. He was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and he doesn't know fear and he was a great warrior. He isn't the leader of the Others, but the stories told to Bran indicates that he made sacrifices to Others.
Yeah, I know that. I meant it in the sense we use it for the show - a WW leader. There's none. Which is why, I think, Euron is so bland on the show. There's no space for two villains.
 
Good to know that the show has diverged enough from the novels that hearing of plot developments in the show don't spoil a potential read of WOW.

Yeah, they're still heading in the same direction but due to the way they've diverged it'll almost be part of the fun trying to figure out what's the same and what's different.
 
No, there is mention of a 'Night's King'. He is speculated to be the brother of Brandon the breaker (The king of Winter) who married a sorceress who was white as snow and cold as ice. He was the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and he doesn't know fear and he was a great warrior. He isn't the leader of the Others, but the stories told to Bran indicates that he made sacrifices to Others.
Isn't the sorceress supposed to be a female Other?
 
Yeah, I know that. I meant it in the sense we use it for the show - a WW leader. There's none. Which is why, I think, Euron is so bland on the show. There's no space for two villains.

I think Euron is a pale shadow of the ultimate plague Euron in the books. He's worse than Ramsay Bolton and he has the personality to demand blind allegiance, unlike Ramsay. That kind of badassery is not possible with the screen time he has in the show. He killed an old Balon Greyjoy and he has somehow managed to build an armada in record quick time, had some terrible one liners with Jaime. There is no Victarion Greyjoy in the show too, to hate him enough to give him that bad guy aura. It's just a badly handled character in the show

Isn't the sorceress supposed to be a female Other?

Well, that is the speculation.
 
I think Euron is a pale shadow of the ultimate plague Euron in the books. He's worse than Ramsay Bolton and he has the personality to demand blind allegiance, unlike Ramsay. That kind of badassery is not possible with the screen time he has in the show. He killed an old Balon Greyjoy and he has somehow managed to build an armada in record quick time, had some terrible one liners with Jaime. There is no Victarion Greyjoy in the show too, to hate him enough to give him that bad guy aura. It's just a badly handled character in the show



Well, that is the speculation.
Thing is we haven't seen any female Other in the show. Wonder how that will play out in the books.