I think the fear thing is pretty big. The masses were pretty willing to follow the High Sparrow and hate Cersei when given the chance. But after the whole nuking of the sept, well it might be they are feeling a bit cowed right now. Plus with news of a new Targ on the continent with DRAGONS and Dothraki and Unsullied, they also might be taking the certainty of what they know Cersei is over the unknown (and thus fear) of what these newcomers to Westeros might do to them all. ANd as you say I she can free up a lot of food for those in KL then she will be supported by them for now.
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I think the fear thing is pretty big. The masses were pretty willing to follow the High Sparrow and hate Cersei when given the chance. But after the whole nuking of the sept, well it might be they are feeling a bit cowed right now. Plus with news of a new Targ on the continent with DRAGONS and Dothraki and Unsullied, they also might be taking the certainty of what they know Cersei is over the unknown (and thus fear) of what these newcomers to Westeros might do to them all. ANd as you say I she can free up a lot of food for those in KL then she will be supported by them for now.
I read the leaked scripts of Ep 703 (in that case after having seen the episode) and 704. Some parts are hilariously bad in written form, even when the actual scenes were okayish. 
Now that Bran and Littlefinger are at Winterfell, there's just no logical reasoning on why Baelish should continue to live. After all, Bran would know LF tried to hire a killer to go after him
You know what is going to happen.... Most of the leaks turned out to be correct.
I don't know the 4th episode leaks but the leaks I read so far had nothing to do with LittleFinger. If you know something, post it and maybe spoiler it lolzy
Arya killed him after Sansa found out due to Bran's cue that he conspired with the Boltons to sell her to them
Lol, not sure if that's the way it will go down in the books
Well of course, we dont even know if Bran will ever come south of the Wall again in the books.
Or Littlefinger will go to Winterfell
The only one I'm certain of dying is Varys, very heavily foreshadowed in AGoT. Littlefinger is a tough nut to crack.
There are some pretty out there theories about him.
Do tell!
Hint: read the last few Arya/Ned chapters. Look for language of taking off head
Are you talking about the catspaw in book 1? That was Joffrey.
It was implied that Littlefinger was behind both the catspaw and Ned's beheading.
When was that?
Edit: I mean the catspaw, I know about his part in Ned's death.
4th episode has been leaked. Quality seems to be poor though
It's been theorised that the catspaw is the same man who delivered Catelyn the letter from Lysa (in actuality Baelish's). It's rather strange to have a common ruffian chanced met, who'd be so honourable he didnt take his gold from Joffrey and ran, but laid low in the stable for 2 weeks to carry out the dirty work.
Why would Baelish want to kill Bran? Also, the ravens would have to teleport to King's Landing to deliver the news to Baelish and him deciding to kill Bran. Further, if Baelish put the kill order on Bran, how did the Catspaw come in the possession of the Valerian Dagger?
Isn't it heavily implied that Joffrey gave the dagger to the catspaw to kill Bran to impress Robert because he heard Robert saying that death would be a mercy for Bran.
It's not about wanting, Baelish likely sent him there and act as a free agent to sow discord if he can, knowing what a little shit Joffrey is, the distance is too vast to give specific command. The fact that the dagger was chosen by Joffrey was a coincidence.
The theory that Joffrey did it to please Robert has it holes, and reads like a classic GRRM misdirection. He got his teeth knocked off for skinning the pregnant cat, he's not stupid enough to think Robert would pat him on the head for killing his best friend's son.
What is most suspicious is the behaviour of the catspaw. Why would he stay at all? He had the gold. If he kill the son of a great lord and got caught, who's gonna mourn him?
Of course not. Similar to how Lannisters won't invade Reach, because they would get totally destroyed and then Olenna will sing the Rains of Castamere to them. I mean, without alliances Tyrells would have defeated Lannisters even before the war of five kings, while if we go after Dance of Dragons, they would totally destroy them considering that Lannisters are decimated while Tyrells are on full strength. Thing is that by this stage on the books, Lannisters are almost a non-factor and are struggling in Riverlands. The game for the throne will almost certainly be an another Dance of Dragons between Aegon/JonCon/Dorne and Daenerys (probably with some help from Euron/Victarion), with Tyrells somewhere in the middle. But there is absolutely no way that in the books universe, the events would be in this way considering that the strength of forces is totally different (Reach, Vale and Dorne very strong in the books, Lannisters very weak).
Other things that won't happen:
- Ramsey won't defeat Stannis with 20 good men (though likely Stannis won't get Winterfell)
- Stannis won't burn Shireen
- Euron won't join Lannisters, that makes no sense at all.
- Vale won't help Jon in the battle of bastards.
- Vale won't make Jon their king.
- Sand Snakes won't kill Doren and his son.
Stannis will burn Shireen, the foreshadowing is quite clear, but it wont be for the Games of Thrones, but rather the War for the Dawn.
I'm not bothered enough to use torrents for this. Will just have to wait
Agreed. I also think there is no battle of bastards in the book. Stannis will probably kill Ramsay Bolton or at least drive him away to Dreadfort
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Books are gonna play out completely differently obviously. Just look at Meereen, you've got Victarion, Moqorro and Marwyn all arriving there who aren't on the show at all, and Quentyn might still be alive (I think?). Impossible to say how that's gonna work. Then there's Jaime who is off to meet Lady Stoneheart, who knows how the feck he's gonna get out of that encounter alive.
Quentyn is dead, its in the 2nd Barristan POV in ADwD, his corpse were being cleansed by beetle
Vic is in for a big surprise once he meets Dany. The big question is whether Barristan survives the battle.
Quentyn is dead, its in the 2nd Barristan POV in ADwD, his corpse were being cleansed by beetle
Vic is in for a big surprise once he meets Dany. The big question is whether Barristan survives the battle.
I thought I read a theory on Reddit that Quentyn may still be alive? Sounded nonsense though.
Unless he somehow becomes like Beric, Quentyn is dead.
His skin were slouching off his skull last Barristan saw him. I suppose Moqorro can give him the kiss of fire but do we really want unQuent?
There is no reason for unQuent to be fair. We already have unJon, unCatelyn, unMountain and Aegon.
And well, Quentyn had no business being in the books in the first place. His entire plot was a dead end from the beginning.
And well, Quentyn had no business being in the books in the first place. His entire plot was a dead end from the beginning.
Dance of the Dragons mk.II/ 6th Blackfyre rebellion.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
So when Dany set foot on Westeros, who would Dorne go for, bright comely Aegon, the prince who survived, stock of Rhaegar, or daughter of the Mad King who roasted dear Quentyn to pork crackling?
Arianne PoV in TWoW also gave that impression. Martin is setting the stage for a full on conflict between Targ/Targ or Targ/Blackfyre in the South, whereas Jon fights alone in the North.
That's the problem really
Ah, you're right. But then, I don't think hat Quentyn needed to die (or even exist) in the first place for that to happen. Aegon is prince Doran's nephew anyway, and a marriage between him and the heiress Arianne could be arranged even with Quentyn existing (Arianne is heir with or without Quentyn).
I totally agree that there is gonna be an another dance of dragons / Blackfyre rebellion, and while I think that Aegon will die, I don't think that Martin will ever tell us if he is a Targ or not.
My problem with that theory is that there's no real evidence nor even any hints towards it being true. It certainly could be feasible but with nothing to corroborate it I think Joffrey is still more likely, even though that itself is only weakly supported.
I think the theory on Quentyn being alive involves a switch between Quentyn and the Tattered Prince, with the latter being the burn victim who dies in bed.
Wouldn't another switch of a 'prince' become too tiring? Unless, that is Martin's way of showing us that Aegon is real Aegon.
But Aegon being real makes Jon's role a bit lesser, right?
But Aegon being real makes Jon's role a bit lesser, right?
So what do we reckon Marwyn's role is here? Very interesting character I think, I hope he brings Dany to Asshai, that is a location I'd love to see in the books.
That's the beauty of Martin's writing isnt it? There are so many possible interpretations. Thing is, neither Tyrion nor Jaime really gave a satisfying reason for Joffrey's action, and we know from Ned's beheading or the dwarf jousters at the Purple Wedding that Littlefinger is behind Joffrey's unexplicable behaviour (some of them, at least)
I read that one but there's really nothing to support it. We saw from Quent's PoV of him being fired at by Viserion. Even with the burn, Barristan shouldnt mistake him for an entirely diffrent man, and his companions confirmed his death. If it's a deception, what's the motive?
Yep, I think a lot of these things will be left unresolved in the end.
Yeah it is weak, and I don't personally believe it but was just putting it out there since the point was raised.
Why Asshai? There's nothing there except black buildings, sorcerers and malformed fishes