Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

Snow said:
Only fair then to ban people who post in the TV thread.
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Theres a huge number of spoilers for last season already in this thread (including @fishfingers15 right there)
So i'd avoid this one unless you can get cina to delete a few hundred posts

Theres a generic fantasy thread too and anything posted in that is related to the books usually but even that will have the odd spoiler
 
caid said:
Theres a huge number of spoilers for last season already in this thread (including @fishfingers15 right there)
So i'd avoid this one unless you can get cina to delete a few hundred posts

Theres a generic fantasy thread too and anything posted in that is related to the books usually but even that will have the odd spoiler
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Is he saying he hasn't seen the shows? I thought he meant he has seen the shows but hasn't seen a spoiler yet, which is a different thing altogether :nervous:

Did I spoil it for Snow :(
 
fishfingers15 said:
Is he saying he hasn't seen the shows? I thought he meant he has seen the shows but hasn't seen a spoiler yet, which is a different thing altogether :nervous:

Did I spoil it for Snow :(
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try spoilering it lol
Its a pretty epic spoilertastic post if he hasn't see the last season of GoT
 
fishfingers15 said:
Err R + L = J was a spoiler, a pretty big one. Barristan Selmy dying, Tyrion becoming the hand of the king are all spoilers that haven't been revealed in the books yet.
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To be fair these things are only spoilers if they happen in the books as well and I wouldn't be too sure about it (apart from the first one - but I didn't even consider that a spoiler).

GRRM himself said that not every character who dies in the show will die in the books as well for example.
 
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In what universe R + L = J was a spoiler from the TV show? People have known it for 20 years.

Barristan dying isn't much of a spoiler. There is every chance that he won't be killed in the books (similar to Jayne Westerling/Talissa). Not everything is going to converge, only the big things must converge.

Tyrion becoming HotQ is a spoiler, but we knew that was going to happen from the moment he set for Essos in the end of the third book (so, 17 years ago).

The only somehow spoilers were:

'Hold the Door', although it was theorized a long time ago.
The origin of the Others.
Jon Snow becoming 'The King in the North'.

The third one was also extremely easy to predict.
 
Well yeah I mean obviously things will differ between the show and the books. However anything that is now shown on television (that is still a possibility in the books) has to be looked at as a potential spoiler for the simple reason that they are potential spoilers. It isn't a complicated situation.
 
Not going to get dragged into spoiler discussions at all. Book readers will just have to put up with the spoilers because the TV Shows will spoil the ending before the books are out.
 
caid said:
Theres a huge number of spoilers for last season already in this thread (including @fishfingers15 right there)
So i'd avoid this one unless you can get cina to delete a few hundred posts

Theres a generic fantasy thread too and anything posted in that is related to the books usually but even that will have the odd spoiler
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Must have zoned out last season or seen someone talk about the show and stayed out. I'll keep on staying out then. Cheers.
 
Welsh Wonder said:
Well yeah I mean obviously things will differ between the show and the books. However anything that is now shown on television (that is still a possibility in the books) has to be looked at as a potential spoiler for the simple reason that they are potential spoilers. It isn't a complicated situation.
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It was worth spoilering that just because it was a reply to a guy who somehow manage to miss a billion spoilers plastered across the internet for dozens of things last year.
I'm mostly just impressed and jealous of his ability to zone out. Huzzah for Snow etc.

The thread title is
BOOK & TV SPOILERS (AIRED EPISODES ONLY) & SPECULATION
though.

Tbh i think the fantasy thread became the place to talk about the books with no spoilers last season.
The only thing in spoilers here last season was 'on the next episode' type things
 
Barristan dying and Tyrion becoming Dany's hand are not necessarily guaranteed to happen in the books.

My sense is that they wanted Tyrion to take on Barristan's role as they needed him to do something important because feck Penny (important character for Tyrion - post-Tywin btw, but the fans hate her).. so they killed Barristan off and let Tyrion take over the 'temp leader during the battle of fire' role.

The biggest spoiler is Stannis burning Shireen - in the books it will be far more epic and at a far more appropriate time, of course, but it has still been spoilt
 
Drainy said:
Barristan dying and Tyrion becoming Dany's hand are not necessarily guaranteed to happen in the books.

My sense is that they wanted Tyrion to take on Barristan's role as they needed him to do something important because feck Penny (important character for Tyrion - post-Tywin btw, but the fans hate her).. so they killed Barristan off and let Tyrion take over the 'temp leader during the battle of fire' role.

The biggest spoiler is Stannis burning Shireen - in the books it will be far more epic and at a far more appropriate time, of course, but it has still been spoilt
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From what I remember it was only confirmed that Shireen will be burned by Mel, don't think we KNOW it will be done with Stannis' consent.

Btw I don't think anything is set in stone yet anyway. If GRRM would be sure about it all he wouldn't need 10 years to write a book. He's still changing stuff, adding stuff etc. For example this is what he said two years ago:
"In one intriguing new wrinkle, Martin says he just came up with a big, revealing twist on a long-time character that he never previously considered. “This is going to drive your readers crazy,” he teases, “but I love it. I’m still weighing whether to go that direction or not. It’s a great twist. It’s easy to do things that are shocking or unexpected, but they have to grow out of characters. They have to grow out of situations. Otherwise, it’s just being shocking for being shocking. But this is something that seems very organic and natural, and I could see how it would happen. And with the various three, four characters involved… it all makes sense. But it’s nothing I’ve ever thought of before. And it’s nothing they can do in the show, because the show has already—on this particular character—made a couple decisions that will preclude it, where in my case I have not made those decisions.”

Wouldn't even be surprised if he's not sure about the ending yet either.
 
legolegs said:
From what I remember it was only confirmed that Shireen will be burned by Mel, don't think we KNOW it will be done with Stannis' consent.
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I think Stannis will consent. At first I through there was no way that Stannis would dishonour himself like that but when you consider his pondering of 'what is one life against a kingdom' when considering burning a child it makes more sense.
 
Yeah I think the remaining two books are going to diverge so much from the show that all this spoiler stuff will have very little impact on books readers.
 
I don't know if I should post this here or not:
 
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Its worth posting but no harm in throwing trailers in spoilers

Looks fun anyway, lots of battles by the looks of thigns
 
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People in the TV thread have definitely read the leaks and are hinting at things that will happen.
 
Someone posted a massive spoiler regarding Aegon on the TV thread. No one seems to have noticed it yet though. :lol::lol:
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Well he doesn't exist in the show, which means the theory about mummer's dragon is probably correct.
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Remind me of this? A lot of the stuff in ADWD went over my head it seems.
 
2cents said:
Remind me of this? A lot of the stuff in ADWD went over my head it seems.
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It refers to the vision Dany saw in the House of the Undying. She saw a mummer propping up a dragon's head on a stick, then Quaithe the Asshai'i woman brought her a prophecy (beware the mummer's dragon, lion's son etc...). Aegon is the mummer's dragon, which means he is either manipulated by Varys and Ilyrio, or not actually a Targaryen but Ilyrion's son with the Lyseni woman he wed once, or a Blackfyre's descendent.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
It refers to the vision Dany saw in the House of the Undying. She saw a mummer propping up a dragon's head on a stick, then Quaithe the Asshai'i woman brought her a prophecy (beware the mummer's dragon, lion's son etc...). Aegon is the mummer's dragon, which means he is either manipulated by Varys and Ilyrio, or not actually a Targaryen but Ilyrion's son with the Lyseni woman he wed once, or a Blackfyre's descendent.
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Drainy said:
fAegon theory. Aegon, who is invading Westeros at the end of ADWD is a fake Targaryen and not the son of Rhaegar and Elia
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Right yeah, I'd heard of the fAegon idea but never related it to Dany's dream, I had a big gap between reading ACOK and ADWD, must have a look at that House of the Undying bit again.
 
Has the policy regarding book talk changed in the show thread? Seems like every other post someone references the books now. A season or two ago you'd have been threadbanned and battered for it.
 
2cents said:
Right yeah, I'd heard of the fAegon idea but never related it to Dany's dream, I had a big gap between reading ACOK and ADWD, must have a look at that House of the Undying bit again.
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She is also warned to beware the mummer's dragon by Quaithe. In the house of the undying she sees a lot of stuff, including a cloth dragon.

The assumption is that this is Aegon. Clearly the most fitting choice.
 
harshad said:
Link please. I seem to have missed it.
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Posted this while talking about Ilyrios:

"He's in the books a lot but his storyline (which also features Varys) has been dissolved in the show. Basically Aegon is alive in the books, operating under the name "Young Griff" - Varys and Illyrio are trying to find him and groom him for power, iirc. But Varys is just doing that with Daenerys in the show instead."
 
Some buzz around this tweet that a TWOW announcement is imminent...

 
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