That could happen also, though Euron attacking Dany's fleet would throw his whole plan out of whack. Though Theon and his sister have already done that haven't they? He will have to show he has the dragonbinder early in the next season to establish that part of the storyline. Not sure how tough the Slavers fleets and the Dorne fleet are at fighting at see, but yeah the Ironborn are supposed to be bad asses at sea.
Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?
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Have they ever introduced the horn in the TV show?
You have Rhaegar kidnapping Lyana. You have Lyana being guarded by the Kingsguard. You have Lyana implying that Robert Barratheon will kill her son if ever he discovered Jon's heritage. The only way it could be more obvious is if you were shown the conception.
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It's true we have a number of players left but a big number of them are currently on one team (which is team dany). Cercei is on her own and Euron is a bit of a mystery because he was barely in the show at all. Of course we still have something left, just not too much. Not sure about Euron either because his plan was to marry Dany and he needs her for his plan. He can't just attack her army imo because it just wouldn't help him. Even if he could beat her he'd lose troops when what he wants is gaining troops.
I understand the reasoning behind the decisions, I just don't really like them and think it could have been done otherwise. Of course it's easy for me to say lol.
Btw i agree with you that the season wasn't very good IMO.
I don't really like the way the showmakers have chosen. The storytelling and most of the dialogue is very, very clumsy and that were the things I used to like about the show most. Has great action and visuals, but in general I think of GoT as simple entertainment.
@Beachryan No.
It's true we have a number of players left but a big number of them are currently on one team (which is team dany). Cercei is on her own and Euron is a bit of a mystery because he was barely in the show at all. Of course we still have something left, just not too much. Not sure about Euron either because his plan was to marry Dany and he needs her for his plan. He can't just attack her army imo because it just wouldn't help him. Even if he could beat her he'd lose troops when what he wants is gaining troops.
I understand the reasoning behind the decisions, I just don't really like them and think it could have been done otherwise. Of course it's easy for me to say lol.
Btw i agree with you that the season wasn't very good IMO.
I don't really like the way the showmakers have chosen. The storytelling and most of the dialogue is very, very clumsy and that were the things I used to like about the show most. Has great action and visuals, but in general I think of GoT as simple entertainment.
@Beachryan No.
6-7-8 was the weakest run of the season. 1-5 were terrific build episodes, all had something to say and certainly had things that moved the show towards the endgame. Maybe a bit slower, but consistent. The Door was fabulous, another top episode I'd have high up on any ranking but marginally below the elite episodes.
Maybe just the last two then. I certainly don't think we're going to agree if you think one-to-five was terrific.
not yet. That is why I said they will have to bring it into the story line very early in the next season, if they are going to have it at all. I can see why they did not just have Euron show up and say I got this dragon taming thing, but they can't keep it a secret for ever, unless they want to go full Douche Ex Machina (yeah I said DOUCHE).
Haha, thanks, agreed.
Started making a death list for next season, then realized it was almost everyone in the show. Any final victory will be bittersweet for those involved.
Show hasn't casted Rhaegar yet, so the confusion among TV watchers is understandable. Pretty sure there will be one edition explaining Rhaegar in the next two seasons. With a lot of people killed, there will be need for two villains. Euron would be a great candidate. His story arc may show him going to the doom of valyria to get the horn and the valyrian armor. He may also shun Dany and marry Cersei. Good potential surprises
It probably is confusing but I'm almost certain he's mentioned in the show early on with Ned/Robert and I even remember Joffrey yelling about him towards Tywin? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly.
Show has mentioned his name, but there has been no actor who played Rhaegar yet, and mentions of him is about Robert Baratheon defeating him at the trident, but never in this context.
In a flashback or something? I mean we don't see many characters who are dead (too late now for that to change).
This season alone we've seen:
Younger Ned
Rickard Stark
Lyanna Stark
Aerys Targaryen
Howland Reed
Arthur Dayne
I know it's not all of the older characters, but it's a fair few. Rhaegar's been established but a flashback scene might be helpful next season. Just one of him calling Jon the Song of Ice and Fire or something like that.
Yeah a flashback is fine of course. Certainly wouldn't hurt but I'm not sure it's required.
No, hasn't been cast yet.
I really, really hope that the whole thing doesnt end with a win for the good guys. Since its unlikely to ever re-surface, best going out with an absolute bang and have people talking about it for years. Basically, the opposite of the way friends finished 
I really, really hope that the whole thing doesnt end with a win for the good guys. Since its unlikely to ever re-surface, best going out with an absolute bang and have people talking about it for years. Basically, the opposite of the way friends finished
There really are only two options, some sort of good guys win or the good guys lose. It will be the details of how either happens that will determine it. Even a good guys victory will probably involve the death of many main characters, so will be far from a happily ever after ending.
I'd prefer a 'happier' ending to a depressing one. I mean it's fecking fantasy at the end of the day - life's hard enough.
I mean a depressing/sad ending is fine if it makes sense but at this stage, I get the feeling it would only be for the hell of it (because it's GoT and 'different').
I mean a depressing/sad ending is fine if it makes sense but at this stage, I get the feeling it would only be for the hell of it (because it's GoT and 'different').
I'd prefer a 'happier' ending to a depressing one. I mean it's fecking fantasy at the end of the day - life's hard enough.
I mean a depressing/sad ending is fine if it makes sense but at this stage, I get the feeling it would only be for the hell of it (because it's GoT and 'different').
However it (the show) ends, it should be because that is how GRRM envisioned his story ending. It should not be made "happier" to please the mass audience, it should not be some sort of twist just because that is what GoT does. Heck even a neutral ending would not be bad.
But at this point as has been pointed out elsewhere, the probably is not a version of events that has not been discussed, thought about, blogged about, etc So no matter what happens it will probably be something someone predicted.
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Is it possible that the next book takes us further than the just finished season on TV or will the book end with Danny and her squad setting sail?
Anything is possible.
Guess we'll find out in 2020.
Am I the only one who can see the potential for the series and the books to have very different endings? I know GRRM filled in the producers and writers as to what his plans are, but between GRRM not actually having finished the books and knowing there already are variations between the book and show, well I can see anything form minor differences to it being two completely different endings.
I would think it would go further, or at least more thoroughly flesh out the battle for Westeros. The final act really has to be a Westeros united under Dany, Jon, etc vs the dead right?
Guess Cersei will need a new partner in crime next session and it will have to be Euron. He's the only other obvious villain left and he'll have the ships she'll need to go with whatever small forces she's got left. Dany will have her fleet, Tyrells, and the rest of the south while Jon and co in the North.
I'd be very surprised if the ending was any different. Otherwise GRRM wouldn't have bothered telling them what it is.
Of course how they get there will probably be different. Books will probably take their sweet time getting to the end.
It might be GRRM who changes his ending. Though to be honest I just am throwing this out there for discussion. It could happen, but probably is not likely that it will be too different.
Depends if Dany will follow the same route in the books imo. If it's just uniting the Dothraki and the battle of Meereen then she should certainly not just sail to Westeros at the end of the books. The battle will be done very early on and the Dothraki stuff shouldn't take too long either. Now if GRRM doesn't have a different plan for her I'd say she should set sails halfway through the books or so.
In general the books should move the plot way past season 6 imo.
No, can see that myself.
I also think you can do the "same" ending and it can still be so different that people won't even recognize it's the same end.
I actually felt a bit uncomfortable when The Mountain was left with the nun. Even if he raped her or she was just forced to look at his grotesque zombie-face staring at her silently, it is just awful
I actually felt a bit uncomfortable when The Mountain was left with the nun. Even if he raped her or she was just forced to look at his grotesque zombie-face staring at her silently, it is just awful
That was awful!!
There was definite parallels between Sansa with Ramsay, and Cersei with Septa Unella.. but Cersei went to the next level of depravity
Lady Olenna putting down the sandsnakes.
I've never noticed the music so much in a episode of this before. Was really well done.
I kept going for quite a while as well, making a nice build up.
Loved that. Instantly set the mood. The choice of that eerie Piano was great.
Amol, don't ever change lol
Every week.Amol, don't ever change lol