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I think they also had the ships from the free cities.

And tv show or not a tv show, we really should get over "teleporting"
 
Also judging by the fact that Dany had a lot more ships than the Greyjoys brought them all with sails all with golden dragon heads, as well as the telporting, there will be a lot more logic bending to speed things up. I am fine with that to a degree. Varys teleporting with some Martell ships doesn't exactly hurt the plot and it saves a lot of boring 'filler'.
Ships they captured from the slavers, grey joy ships, ships from dorne so no logic problem there.
 
Here's the song that plays at the beginning, if anyone's interested. It's amazing.

 
Ships they captured from the slavers, grey joy ships, ships from dorne so no logic problem there.
I am talking about the time it would have taken to build all the dragon heads and all those Targ banners for the ships, which would have taken a lot of time. That plus Varys quickly getting to Meereen would have also taken a lot of time, but the episode was set up as if that just happened in quick succession, otherwise Dany wouldn't have told Daario Naharis she was about to leave him months before she had left.

Not that I have a problem with that, only saying. It is good that they speed it up, I don't mind when it develops the plot as it did.
 
So did arya have that face on the whole time in that episode ? She was so close to Jaime
 
Really? Didn't notice. It was a great ending scene. The music in this episode was great too, especially at the beginning.
Yeah if you look closely in some of the shots you can see blueish/green sails with a gold rose on them. All the Slavers' ships seem to have the Targ flag flying on them so it's them.
 
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If Sam can find some way to make wildfire in the massive library, does that mean it could be used against the Night's King's Army? Could he also find out how to make Valyrian Steel with the new dragons?
 
One of my show only friend who didn't read spoilers/theories just asked me if Ned and Lyanna aren't real siblings :lol:, he thought Jon is their son :lol:
 
Better than thinking Jon is half stark and half baratheon as someone did in the show thread

Which shows that they didn't do a good job presenting the secret. If the internet doesn't exist you'll probably have 70% of show only watchers scratching their heads as to what's going on.
 
Which shows that they didn't do a good job presenting the secret. If the internet doesn't exist you'll probably have 70% of show only watchers scratching their heads as to what's going on.

Maybe they didn't intend to fully reveal it in this episode. The reveal here was that Jon isn't Ned Stark's illegitimate son, but his sister's son; something which would have been a shock to show watchers had the books not existed.
 
I am talking about the time it would have taken to build all the dragon heads and all those Targ banners for the ships, which would have taken a lot of time. That plus Varys quickly getting to Meereen would have also taken a lot of time, but the episode was set up as if that just happened in quick succession, otherwise Dany wouldn't have told Daario Naharis she was about to leave him months before she had left.

Not that I have a problem with that, only saying. It is good that they speed it up, I don't mind when it develops the plot as it did.

they may have been working on things like that since she took the fleet, which in reality the show is not clear on how much time has passed between that event and her sailing. She could have told Dario at any point even in advance so that he would understand the plans being made for who gets shipped and who doesn't.
 
Maybe they didn't intend to fully reveal it in this episode. The reveal here was that Jon isn't Ned Stark's illegitimate son, but his sister's son; something which would have been a shock to show watchers had the books not existed.

Could be, but as they didn't do the great tourney in Harrenhal and probably won't due to time running out, I just can't see how they can flesh out the story coherently with only 13 eps left. Which is criminal in my view, since this is such an important piece in the whole story it deserves the screen time instead of 'bad pussay'
 
Really really enjoyed this episode, R+L=J confirmed, Jaime having to slay Cersei the Mad Queen to fulfil the prophecy as good as confirmed, only surprise was the Wall not coming down at the end as a cliffhanger.
 
Could be, but as they didn't do the great tourney in Harrenhal and probably won't due to time running out, I just can't see how they can flesh out the story coherently with only 13 eps left. Which is criminal in my view, since this is such an important piece in the whole story it deserves the screen time instead of 'bad pussay'

I'm also wondering how they'll break this news to Jon/Danerys in a way that will have them believing it. A time travelling Bran is going to be a hard sell.
 
Really really enjoyed this episode, R+L=J confirmed, Jaime having to slay Cersei the Mad Queen to fulfil the prophecy as good as confirmed, only surprise was the Wall not coming down at the end as a cliffhanger.

Once they showed Bran and where he was, I knew the Whitewalkers were not going to figure strongly in the final. Story wise gives more time for the North to prepare, have Bran meet back up with Sansa and Jon (which I imagine will happen fairly quickly next season once Bran goes back to the other side of the wall), Sam has to have some time to play his part, etc. Plus once the Wall comes down it is pretty much the Whitewalker army sweeping South, and we all figure the Dragons will play some role in stopping them, so still a bit of story telling to do.
 
Unless I missed something, we really didnt get the r + l = j theory confirmed. Only that Lyanna is likely his mother
 
Unless I missed something, we really didnt get the r + l = j theory confirmed. Only that Lyanna is likely his mother

Yeah, but when we know that Rhaegar was with Lyanna and that Lyanna said Robert would kill the child, it's basically confirmed.
 
Dany and Jon getting it on is pretty much sealed. She said she would need to marry to make alliances. Dorne and Highgarden have no heirs and they're already onside anyway.

The King in the North is single though.

Garland and Willard are not in the show?
 
Questions
Odds that Dany's fleet gets a bit banged up by some sort of storm ala Connington's fleet getting scattered and parts destroyed? Thus reducing her numerical advantages some what. How will the Dorthraki react to winter? Are they used to winters where they wander in Essos or will it come as a shock to them?
 
Unless I missed something, we really didnt get the r + l = j theory confirmed. Only that Lyanna is likely his mother

Who else would his father be with the Kingsguard protecting his mother in that scenario?
 
Probably a safe assumption. Who else could it be?

Feck knows, but if THATS the reveal then its pretty shit.

How many plausible ways are there for Jon to find out? Bran didn't hear what Lyanna whispered... Maybe Jon's going to get set on fire and emerge like Dany.

With 13 episodes left it seems pretty unlikely to me that the 3 dragon riders will be anyone other than Dany, Jon and Tyrion
 
They've moved on from GRRM tremendously, in fact, I doubt the book even tops it if you go by the mediocrity of Book 4 and 5, which in turn led to the worst season in 5(by some distance too).

Season 6 was great, one 'filler' episode from my count, but will confirm on my rewatch. 2 episodes which are potential top 5....and will go down in "best episode" debates in the last 2 also. I don't think any other season has that.
 
Feck knows, but if THATS the reveal then its pretty shit.

How many plausible ways are there for Jon to find out? Bran didn't hear what Lyanna whispered... Maybe Jon's going to get set on fire and emerge like Dany.

With 13 episodes left it seems pretty unlikely to me that the 3 dragon riders will be anyone other than Dany, Jon and Tyrion

Time will tell if or when and how Jon finds out. The Tower scenes played out exactly as many expected, and really about the only way they could have.
 
I don't know why people are unhappy with the parentage scene, it was about as obvious as can be.
 
I don't know why people are unhappy with the parentage scene, it was about as obvious as can be.

It's obvious who his mother is. To anyone whos never heard of r+l=j, its really not obvious who his dad is
 
Questions
Odds that Dany's fleet gets a bit banged up by some sort of storm ala Connington's fleet getting scattered and parts destroyed? Thus reducing her numerical advantages some what. How will the Dorthraki react to winter? Are they used to winters where they wander in Essos or will it come as a shock to them?

maybe, though a naval battle with Euron seems inevitable

Surely the ironborn fleet would mess Dany up at sea?

Possible Euron has Dragonbinder too?
 
They've moved on from GRRM tremendously, in fact, I doubt the book even tops it if you go by the mediocrity of Book 4 and 5, which in turn led to the worst season in 5(by some distance too).

Season 6 was great, one 'filler' episode from my count, but will confirm on my rewatch. 2 episodes which are potential top 5....and will go down in "best episode" debates in the last 2 also. I don't think any other season has that.
I think the last three episodes have been up there with anything we've seen from GoT but I don't think the season as a whole was great at all. I found the first seven at least very weak. No One is quite possibly the worst episode I've seen.
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It was a very good episode. I do agree with @legolegs a bit in how disappointing it is that many players just got wiped out, but there's still a relatively sizeable amount. Cersei, Euron, Littlefinger (and Sansa?), and Olenna + Bad Pussy AND Varys. That last combination is very interesting, however terrible the Dorne arc has been. You also have to factor in the show doesn't have the ability to hone in on sideplots and character arcs because of time and budget constraints - the song between Ice and Fire is very much upon us now.

How awesome did Oldtown look, btw? I loved it. I'm also very mad that I've had to go another whole season without Jaime's redemption arc. Bah.