There'd be chaos
.I shouldn't laugh at the show watchers. Before I flew through the books last summer, I had a theory that this guy...
was Benjen.
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.I shouldn't laugh at the show watchers. Before I flew through the books last summer, I had a theory that this guy...
was Benjen.
There'd be chaos
I shouldn't laugh at the show watchers. Before I flew through the books last summer, I had a theory that this guy...
was Benjen.
I thought Coldhands was Benjen
I thought Coldhands was Benjen
Thought the same for a while, could be dunk no?
I thought Coldhands was Benjen
Always thought that Benjen was just gone and that he existed mostly as a vehicle to explain why Jon would go to the Nightwatch. Having him essentially disappear was just an easy way out without having to come up some story line about someone else killing Benjen and weaving that into Jon's arc. Did wonder if he was Coldhands for a bit. I would guess if he does show back up at all, it would have to be as part of the white walker army who then gets killed by Jon, so what would be the point.
I thought Coldhands was Benjen
I've not read the books so I didn't know he was. Googled and him and he seems really cool- they should have had him on the TV series! Sometimes I wish they'd have followed the books exactly as they were told regardless of budget and no.of episodes. One can dream.
GRRM apparently ruled it out positively.
Coldhands has a 90% chance of being from the nightwatch and he definitely fits the profile of Benjen, with him being a stark and what not. Probably must have something to do with the 13th Lord Commander of the Night watch. I'm pretty sure Benjen would be tied back to the story at some point, just don't know who.
Yeah, he was a cool character and I was looking up to seeing him. Victarian seems to be cut from the show as well. Anyway you should be careful about reading posts in this thread, most of it is a potential spoiler for show watchers.
Didn't Leaf say Coldhands had been dead a long time?
Also in one manuscript containing notes by GRRM and his publisher, she writes a question asking if Coldhands is Benjen, GRRM wrote underneath it.......No. Obviously being a draft version things could change, so yes he is of the Nightswatch, but not Benjen it would seem.
Red ink is supposed to be GRRM
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What a waste of a spoiler tag @JustAFanNa it's calm, I'm not Cina.
Red ink is supposed to be GRRM
Yes, this is what I was referring to when I meant that GRRM has ruled it out.
So coldhands could be dunk then?
Theory of a friend, got a loan of the dunk and egg book from him, which i might read this weekend.
I have to read that dunk and egg book as well, havent read it yet.
That theory comes from the fact that Dunk accompanied Maester Aemon to the wall when the latter took the black. Dunk went back to KL however, continued to serve in the Kingsguard and then died at Summerhall along with King Aegon (The Mad King's grandfather). No one really knows what happened except that Aegon was trying to hatch dragons, a fire broke out, a bunch of Targs died and the only survivors were Aerys, his wife and their son Rhaegar who was born on that day. Speculation is that Dunk died saving them. This does not happen in the Dunk and Egg stories however, but years afterwards.
Yeah that theory is bs. Ser Duncan the Tall died at Summerhall. It's cannon.
Coldhands would be such an anti climax for the story of Benjen. What do people think of that crazy Daario rumour?
What the Euron=Daario theory?
Terrible theory, in my opinion. Not quite Dany+Drogo= Tyrion but getting there!
Terrible theory, in my opinion. Not quite Dany+Drogo= Tyrion but getting there!
Tell me you're making that one up.
Also known as the time-travelling foetus theory. It's hilarious.
You think that's bad? Someone once came up with the theory that the Hound and the Mountain are actually brothers.
Bloody hell. But in a world where LVG hasn't been sacked I suppose anything is possible.
Most insane theory ever. It makes Euron == Daario look believable in comparison.
What do you think about the theory that Cersei will succeed Tommen?
Certainly seems to fit with the prophecy, 'victory tastes like ashes in your mouth'
Tommen and Myrcella are in borrowed time. I can seen both of them dying soon, which would make Cersei a temporary queen until Danny comes.
Oh certainly they both will die, what I referred to is the theory that Cersei is the actual legal heir of Tommen on the order of succession.
I don't know nothing about that theory.
Jon Snow and Meera Reed being twins is another batshit theory.
It goes that Myrcella will die before Tommen, and the Baratheon line will go extinct once the latter die. Through some arcane marriages ages ago, the succession line gets to Tywin's children, and given Jaime's vow and Tyrion's predicament, Cersei will become rightful Queen of Westeros. Will certainly be ironic that she attains what she most desire at the cost of her children' lives.
Any rule that puts someone as the rightful Queen/King because of some Targaryan marriage a long time ago, while 1-3 Targaryans exist (Danny, Jon and Aegon assuming that he isn't fake) is a shit rule, to be fair.
That will most likely put the Lannisters in a war with the Tyrels, which they can't win. There's no way it happens, as things stand. Edric Storm should be the most legitimate candidate, I think.
Tbf the Targaryen dynasty ended with Aerys's demise. Succession only pertains then to Baratheons.
I also think the 'younger', 'more beautiful' queen won't be Daenerys. It'll either be Margaery by her own hostility, or even Sansa.
A Sansa-Aegon marriage is what I have been predicted for years now, but the show cutting Aegon, makes me believe that he is fAegon, and so it won't happen.
It would be a good irony though, if at the end of the war, a Targaryan boy marries a Stark girl and rule together.
Jon-Daeneris is an another option, but it has been so obvious from the beginning, that it is hard to see it happening. A heroic death (sacrifice in the war against the Others) is a better ending for those two.
Do we know if people brought back from the dead have functioning semen/eggs?
Give it a taste and let us know
I had a theory that the younger and more beautiful queen isn't Sansa or Marge but Cersei herself. The witch was just being metaphorical with that part of the prophecy and meant that when Cersei achieves all that she wants in life, queen, mother to future Kings, her childhood insecurities and fears will result in her own downfall.
A self fulfilling prophecy. Or it could just be Brienne, more beautiful on the inside and taking Jaime away from her, seeing as her relationship with her brother is one of the few things she holds dear.
A self fulfilling prophecy. Or it could just be Brienne, more beautiful on the inside and taking Jaime away from her, seeing as her relationship with her brother is one of the few things she holds dear.
Always figured the more beautiful queen would be Arya or Sansa.
Margaery is the one who's beauty has been made a point of and even compared to Cersei's several times. Her youth and beauty have been specifically brought up. That's the sign, I think. Otherwise, you could just make a case for anyone younger than Cersei, really. Beauty is subjective.
It'd be a great swerve if Jon Snow was resurrected as gay and he turned out to be the younger and more beautiful queen