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I did not know it either, but then I read the books (like you) which means that by default I knew it, so I am not going to be a [cina] drama queen [/cina] and bitch like you :)
 
However, it needs to be said that it was a spectacular argument from @fishfingers15 to argue pro-not spoiling things by actually writing a spoiler.
 
Ok, I thought all the book readers knew about the Hound vs Ser Gregor Clegane,which is a well discussed story arc and we always have known about the possible and reasonable conclusion for that particular arc. The only speculation left on that was on which season it would happen and there was interviews given by actors in the leadup to this season about it happening.

Well, I'm taking a break from this thread.
 
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Basically, as far as I'm aware:

Discussion on an aired episode = Fine.
Discussion of and speculation pertaining to characters & events in the books + online fan theories = Fine.
Discussion of and speculation pertaining to scenes in 'next episode' and teaser trailers = Spoiler tags with warning.
Discussion of and speculation pertaining to casting information and tv/radio interviews with show stars = Spoiler tags with warning.
 
Dorne is a bit like Manchester United in general right now. People associated with red hyped up in advance, but ultimately falling flat and being disappointing.
 
Honestly, I'd rather it didn't happen in the books. It doesn't fit The Hound's character arc. I like the theory that he's alive and living peacefully as a monk. That's a good ending for a man who's lived his entire life in suffering, in pain (and projecting it on other people as a result). He's finally found his peace. Why would he return to fight in that duel? It would just undone his entire character development.

I can understand it if they do it in the show though. It would be pretty badass to see the fight. The character is not as well developed there (no one is), so I won't be arsed if they do it, just for the action.
 
I wasn't bothered by the spoiler, I was never in any doubt it was going to happen anyway. In the show everyone's motive is revenge, if you aren't after revenge then you haven't got much use. Unless you're Bronn. So it felt like something they are going to do regardless.

I'm not convinced it actually will happen in the books. He wants to subvert tropes and spending the entire series setting up this fight that never actually happens seems a decent way of doing that.
 
Scarecrow said:
Honestly, I'd rather it didn't happen in the books. It doesn't fit The Hound's character arc. I like the theory that he's alive and living peacefully as a monk. That's a good ending for a man who's lived his entire life in suffering, in pain (and projecting it on other people as a result). He's finally found his peace. Why would he return to fight in that duel? It would just undone his entire character development.

I can understand it if they do it in the show though. It would be pretty badass to see the fight. The character is not as well developed there (no one is), so I won't be arsed if they do it, just for the action.
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The book implies he's dead and he was buried by the monks. It doesn't imply he has become a monk. The assumption is that Thoros of Myr or one of his red priest sidekick will resurrect him to fight Ser Frankenstein.
 
Wasn't the Hound last last seen working as a grave digger?
fishfingers15 said:
The book implies he's dead and he was buried by the monks. It doesn't imply he has become a monk. The assumption is that Thoros of Myr or one of his red priest sidekick will resurrect him to fight Ser Frankenstein.
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It's been a while since I read the books, wasn't it pointing to him working with the monks as a grave digger?
 
I'm really interested in just how the 'reveal' and fight with Robert Strong will go. How the feck do you kill that thing?
 
It was said the Hound had died, not that Sandor Clegane had died. Implying he'd found a new life as the grave digging monk. If I remember right.
 
Yeah, it's quite possible he survived and never died at all. As far as I remember he didn't fight with Brienne, but only had festering wounds. Probably possible to recover from.
 
C.M.P said:
Wasn't the Hound last last seen working as a grave digger?



It's been a while since I read the books, wasn't it pointing to him working with the monks as a grave digger?
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In the book, Elder brother tells Brienne that he personally saw Hound die. But fan theories suggest that Hound could be the novice gravedigger that Brienne sees at the monastery.
 
sullydnl said:
I don't see the confusion. Remember in the True Detective thread where someone gave away who the killer was based on casting list? That sort of outside information that has nothing to do with the books should obviously be in spoilers. For example, I didn't know for sure that the Hound would be resurrected this season until Fishfingers mentioned it just now. That's very obviously a spoiler that has nothing to do with book info and should be in spoiler tags.
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Neither did I until I just read your post... wheres your spoiler tags?
 
fishfingers15 said:
In the book, Elder brother tells Brienne that he personally saw Hound die. But fan theories suggest that Hound could be the novice gravedigger that Brienne sees at the monastery.
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I have read that much stuff over the years it's all merging into one
 
C.M.P said:
I have read that much stuff over the years it's all merging into one
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I need to read the books again as well. For instance, Elder brother tells Brienne that he buried Sandor Clegane by himself (not like I previously slated) and he also says Sandor was purely driven by the desire to kill his brother and even that was taken away from him by Prince Oberyn. But he does say Hound is dead. It could be potentially construed that the Hound personality died which is why he marked the grave with the Hound's helm, yet his sword and horse are at the monastery. The Grave digger theory has a lot of legs.

But I think the show will show that a priest will resurrect the Hound to complete his vengeance against Mountain.
 
Patchface should have made it as a big character in the show. Just to drive everyone crazy trying to figure out just what the feck he is singing about. Imagine what the other thread would make of him.
 
Despite him being on the casting list (I assume, not checked), many of the castmembers can simply be due to flashbacks (which we'll probably see plenty more of with Brann back in the picture)
 
JustAFan said:
Patchface should have made it as a big character in the show. Just to drive everyone crazy trying to figure out just what the feck he is singing about. Imagine what the other thread would make of him.
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What the feck was he singing about?
 
Something about being under the sea. Bloodraven in the last episode said "It's beautiful under the sea. But if you stay too long, you'll drown."

Patchface = Bloodraven.
 
Someone should go into other thread (who hasn't been banned) and just start randomly quoting him

"Under the sea, smoke rises in bubbles, and flames burn green and blue and black. I know, I know, oh, oh, oh"
 
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