The original plan was to have 7 seasons. So, I guess it will be either 7 or 8.
Obviously it will surprass the books next year. So, it will either spoil the ending for us or go completely on different roads (which I really doubt).
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Obviously it will surprass the books next year. So, it will either spoil the ending for us or go completely on different roads (which I really doubt).
I wonder if they'll cut the plotline where Walter White comes to Westeros and tries to take the Iron Throne.
Should be an interesting season for book readers seeing as we're likely to venture into new areas and see big plotline differences.
For example, none of Arianne or the Greyjoy brothers have been cast for this season....
For example, none of Arianne or the Greyjoy brothers have been cast for this season....
Possibly the worst news about the new season. If you'd have asked me to describe the ideal female character on HBO, it'd have been her.
Yeah, plus I'd have thought they'd be keen to bring in another strong female character, though I suppose the sandsnakes fit that bill. I guess Oberyn's GF will be taking up Arianne's role...
Same here. I found her as the likeable brune version of Daenerys. Cutting her looked to me very stupid considering that he's by far the most important Dornish character in the book, and we see everything there from her point of view or from that guy of Kingsguard who fecked her.
But it seems that they will concentrate more on Myrcella who and Arianne's little brother (I don't even remember his name from the books).
To be fair they were probably actively trying to avoid bringing Quentyn into the show, a move I have some sympathy for.
What if they are holding off of Arianne, Lady Stoneheart, Greyjoy brothers and "Aegon" (apparently he's out too) so as to include them in later seasons and not burn through all the source material too quickly?
But at the rate they're going I find it difficult to see how they are going to stretch this to a full 7-8 seasons
But at the rate they're going I find it difficult to see how they are going to stretch this to a full 7-8 seasons
He is out, indeed. Which pretty much confirms him as fAegon. Shame, cause I was really having hopes that he is the real Aegon and the mummer's prophecy doesn't neccesarily makes him fake.
This season is going to be shit, no doubt about it. They've decided to butcher everything good about Dorne (except the sex of course, we'll have plenty of that I imagine) and ended up with shit plot about the 2 children being in love and the father not being happy with it
The Kingsmoot was great and we're not going to see that either now. Aegon (along with JonCon) was quite literally the only good thing about Essos in the last book and that's been cut as well. Not even going to mention the abomination that Jaime has become and the omission of Lady Stoneheart. They're basically cherry picking the worst bits from the last book. Yay to more scenes of Dany trying to act and Tyrion trying to sound intelligent!
Just holding out hope that they will (finally) get Stannis right. The Northern storyline was one part of the book that was truly brilliant so I hope they don't feck that up. Also, looking forward to Cersie's continued delusion and meltdown.
Don't think we'll get spoilers this time around. They'll probably make some shit up with Sansa and Bran's not there at all this season. Next season though...
The Kingsmoot was great and we're not going to see that either now. Aegon (along with JonCon) was quite literally the only good thing about Essos in the last book and that's been cut as well. Not even going to mention the abomination that Jaime has become and the omission of Lady Stoneheart. They're basically cherry picking the worst bits from the last book. Yay to more scenes of Dany trying to act and Tyrion trying to sound intelligent!Just holding out hope that they will (finally) get Stannis right. The Northern storyline was one part of the book that was truly brilliant so I hope they don't feck that up. Also, looking forward to Cersie's continued delusion and meltdown.
Don't think we'll get spoilers this time around. They'll probably make some shit up with Sansa and Bran's not there at all this season. Next season though...
The King's Landing stuff might be improved from the book if they're keeping Olenna around. Tommen being old enough to understand what's going on makes things more interesting too.
Apparently Martin's pitch for the series when it was a trilogy has been leaked. It gives some details of how he intended it to end.
Might be spoilery but from the bits I've seen it's really too different to take much from. I think.
Might be spoilery but from the bits I've seen it's really too different to take much from. I think.
Just read it. Now that I've read the real thing most of it sounds utterly hilarious and looks like badly written fanfiction. Must have been a very early draft of the books. Very little of it survives the current state.
Apart from Daenerys' storyline almost everything has undergone change.
The most interesting thing I found was that he states in the letter that in Book 3 (which is now Book 6) The Winds of Winter, we get to know the true parentage of Bastard Jon Snow. R + L = J confirmed
Link please guys.
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Found it on Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2urteh/spoilers_all_so_i_just_saw_this_tweet/
Read it. Seems he switched the incest plotline from jon/arya to the jaime/cersei. The key five Jon, Dany, Bran, Arya and Tyrion are kinda obvious at this point. I'm pretty sure at least one of them won't make it to the end though.
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Found it on Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2urteh/spoilers_all_so_i_just_saw_this_tweet/
Cheers harshad.
Book 3 will now be book 7.
Nah, I think Winds of Winter was always meant to be the last book its just that one book may not be enough for the material he has to conclude the series and thats where Book 7 came in. The story originally intended for Book 3 should start from Book 6 now
Books 1-3 is the first book of the original trilogy. Books 4 and 5 encompass the 5 year gap which he had to scrap. Book 6 will be book 2 and book 7 will be the 3rd book. That's what I think anyway.
I think we're both right
EDIT: That was just collection of already published books. What a fecking tease
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Very interesting to see that he has already changed so many details of his story so far. Also not a big spoiler anymore that Jon has a yet unreveled "true perantage".
That being said: common George finish the god damn book already.
For the people who read the books before the show came out, are you dreading the show outpacing the books?
We all kinda knew it was coming at some point I guess but fecks sake I feel kinda cheated. With how popular the show is, no way to avoid spoilers either.
We all kinda knew it was coming at some point I guess but fecks sake I feel kinda cheated. With how popular the show is, no way to avoid spoilers either.
not me - I think HBO have done a great job and actually enhanced key events in some cases (Red Wedding/Oberyn and the Mountain)
I find the books did slow down at this point and try and introduce too many new characters in plots that aren't as engaging as what we've seen so far
i suppose its inevitable with the depth of the storyline that it will have to have its slow, build up periods
I'm hoping that HBO are able to improve some of the most slow storylines
I read the books before I watched it and yeah it will be weird to be spoiled the ending of perhaps the best series ever by a fecking tv show. HBO haven't done a bad job all things considered but it's still a million miles away from the quality of the books.
This is basically how I feel about it. After they messed up the Tyrion/Jaime parting and with other changes probably coming to cater to the TV audience it's gonna be interesting.
I'm not even sure if I am going to watch the tv show anymore, it's nowhere near as good as the books.
They're going to be so different from this point on that it won't really bother me.
Plus I'm still looking forward to the non-reader reaction to certain events. For example, that last Jon Snow chapter should be fun....
Plus I'm still looking forward to the non-reader reaction to certain events. For example, that last Jon Snow chapter should be fun....
Urgh!
They should just take the TV series in a different direction altogether with a different ending. I guess it was inevitable it would happen, torn now as to give up on the TV show whenever it gets to that point and try my best to avoid all spoilers.
Sigh.
At least the book and TV shows are fairly different entities. We'll still know the basic plot direction (which will suck), but it's already chucked in a tonne of differences. Heck, they could even change the endings completely - there are so many ways it could go, it could actually be pretty cool if the show ends one way and the books have a different 'winner'.
I've always enjoyed the books more, and I'll still read them regardless.
they didn't include the incest rape, which was the worst of all.
Agree. It was horrendous listening to Eboue after that scene.
Jaime's entire character so far. Stannis as well. Someone should tell them Stannis is the main guy not Melisandre as nice as her tits are.
I doubt the reek chapters will be anywhere near as good or disturbing as they were in the books. Especially with no fake arya I assume?
And Dorne is going to be lol worthy this season.
I doubt the reek chapters will be anywhere near as good or disturbing as they were in the books. Especially with no fake arya I assume?
And Dorne is going to be lol worthy this season.
Is there any more news on the next book? I'm assuming now that 2016 is the earliest we'll get, if we're lucky.