He initially worked for the Lannisters but then switched sides and started working for Roose Bolton.
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That's the main problem I fear that he has a life outside of writing and loves to go to conventions, to have a chat with fans and do a lot of projects on the side as well. We would be better off if he was an introvert who never leaves the house and hadn't given an interview in 20 years and the newest picture we have of him would be of that time too.
GRRM why the hell can't you be like other nerds and fear social situations? I need my ASOIAF fix now.
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That's the main problem I fear that he has a life outside of writing and loves to go to conventions, to have a chat with fans and do a lot of projects on the side as well. We would be better off if he was an introvert who never leaves the house and hadn't given an interview in 20 years and the newest picture we have of him would be of that time too.
GRRM why the hell can't you be like other nerds and social situations? I need my ASOIAF fix now.
Early next year or just before season 5 premiere. I hope...
I'm not getting my hopes up. At the rate of the TV show, they should reach the bulk of ADWD material by the end of season 5 (assuming they cut and change a lot of what is seemingly filler material to accelerate plotlines like they already have with Dany). I'd be happy if the next book is released before the season 6 premiere.
Wonder if they'll do R+L=J in the TV show at all, they haven't really mentioned either since the 1st season. If the TV show does go past the books as it is likely to do then I wonder how far we can take it as gospel and spoiler-y for the book readers.
R+L=J IMO will be mentioned on the next book, which likely will be released before April 2016 (when there will be the season based on it). We've heard that the story will go further north than ever (which might be a possibility of Benjen Stark returning on the story) and GRRM said that we'll see Jojen father. Those two persons are the only people who might know that Rhaegar didn't kidnapped Ned's sister and they were in fact lovers who had a baby.
If the next book comes out early next year then there's still a slight hope that he could get somehow get the books done before the show (if they do 8 seasons that is). I remain optimistic
Very unlikely. The fat fecker is really slow and apparently writes only when he is at home so I wouldn't expect the final book before 2020 (assuming that he will not decide to write another book).If the next book comes out early next year then there's still a slight hope that he could get somehow get the books done before the show (if they do 8 seasons that is). I remain optimistic
Anyone else trying to figure out what is going on with characters dying in the show that are still alive in the book? Does that mean we should assume they will be dying?
Either that or that they are so irrelevant to the story that it doesn't matter.
Jojen will obviously die on the books (if he hasn't done it already) while I don't think that it matter at all if Jon's friends die or not.
Shit questions. Should've asked them why they keep changing shit.
I'd have no problems with them altering the storylines and relationships, if they were working on a divergent ending, but:
Well that's just great, isn't it?Entertainment Weekly Interview said:
Surely the ending will heavily involve Jon, Aegon and Daenerys amongst others vying for the Thrones. How do they expect to produce a high-quality ending with those characters, if key elements of those characters and their backgrounds are missing from the TV show? (When was the last time R+L=J was foreshadowed in the show, or were the Blackfyres made mention of?)
Regardless of what they say, I think it's best to treat books and show as 2 separate entities.
I mean, how are they even going to foreshadow that? All the clues to it are in the internal monologue of Ned which is quite difficult to translate onto screen. If/when it's eventually revealed it won't have the same impact on the show but I am not sure they can do anything else. Same with Aegon. In the show his appearance will look very sudden and perhaps be a bit unsatisfying as a result. iirc I don't think Blackfyres were even mentioned in the books until book 5. GRRM used D&E to give background on them.
I'm not so sure. My brother thought R+L=J even before he started reading the books. I'm sure they will make something more of it as well, if it affects the ending.
Also, I'm beginning to think Aegon isn't actually a Blackfyre.
Spoilered in case people don't want to know what will or won't happen in season 5
From an interview with Michelle Fairley:
The interview also has spoilers for 24.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/25/michelle-fairley-24-lady-stoneheart/
The interview also has spoilers for 24.
Big rumours of Jaqen H’ghar will return next season. The actor's German agency has said after he films some other show he will film some Game of Thrones. If it's true he'll probably end up as Arya’s teacher in the House of Black and White. I don't think the Kindly Man is rumoured to be cast.
Edit here is the link - http://winteriscoming.net/2014/06/23/familiar-face-returning-game-thrones-season-5/
Edit here is the link - http://winteriscoming.net/2014/06/23/familiar-face-returning-game-thrones-season-5/
So are we to assume that Lady Stoneheart doesn't have much importance in the future of the books? What was the point in bringing her back if she's not going to do something significant like kill Jaime, Brienne or get involved somewhere??
I guess the other option is that the show is just going to completely diverge itself from the books going forward.
I guess the other option is that the show is just going to completely diverge itself from the books going forward.
I think we can assume that the books will take one path to the end of the story including the outcomes for certain characters and the show will take another. Perhaps LS will just send Jamie and Brienne on another mission to save Sansa or something in the books and in the show they will have someone else do that.
Well that's just shite! I also read a few days back that Jaime was going to Dorne next season. Dismissed it as a rumour but now with LS ruled it might actually be true. Season 5 will become a badly written fanfiction if they continue with these changes
At least if that happens, then there'll be no need for me or any other book reader to get butthurt when things don't go according to script. If they do make these alterations, but keep the gist of the book's ultimate direction, then...
They can always introduce her later if she does go on to do something significant in the later books.
At least if that happens, then there'll be no need for me or any other book reader to get butthurt when things don't go according to script. If they do make these alterations, but keep the gist of the book's ultimate direction, then...
Also, from what I've read (rumours basically) there is no Arianne or Quenten either. They are just going to have Trystanne be the heir and have him romance Myrcella. I have a hard time believing that if they cast maggy the fecking frog and not Arianne then I am sure what to say...
And I am not making any assumptions about a character's importance based on the TV show. GRRM didn't like the fact that they cut out Garlan and Willas in Season 3 so I am sure if the writers are very good judge of importance characters.
I like it, wont spoil the ending of the last book when it is finally released in 3010.
That's the silver lining I guess, a pretty good one admittedly.
I don't know how I feel about the show anymore. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love it but I'm seriously considering not watching the next season until the next book is out at least. There would be nothing worse for me than to have watched the show and seeing some major event that hasn't happened in the books yet.
It would completely ruin the experience for the reader getting a big build up to something and knowing what's going to happen at the end it. And it's not like you can just not watch the show and that's it. The show is so massive that it would be impossible not to get spoiled by something on the internet.
And of course the ultimate fear, that he won't even finish the books.... Don't even want to think about that.
It would completely ruin the experience for the reader getting a big build up to something and knowing what's going to happen at the end it. And it's not like you can just not watch the show and that's it. The show is so massive that it would be impossible not to get spoiled by something on the internet.
And of course the ultimate fear, that he won't even finish the books.... Don't even want to think about that.
I am very strongly considering that as well.
Jagen H'ghar returns on the book too. He's thay guy in Citadel.
That's very shit if true. She's easily the most important character in Dorne. Also, she apparently was hot.
She's also the only female heir of the big houses. You'd think that's the kind of thing they would want to include in the show.
It's probably bullshit mind. Can't see them casting all the sand snakes and not Arianne, wouldn't make much sense.
The Dorne scenes will be shot in Spain, apparently. - http://hbowatch.com/spain-to-serve-as-dorne-in-game-of-thrones-season-5/
This will be the Water Gardens: https://www.google.bg/search?q=Alcá...eAywPJioDQDw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1344&bih=734
This will be the Water Gardens: https://www.google.bg/search?q=Alcá...eAywPJioDQDw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1344&bih=734
Well that's sucked the excitement out of me for the show. Not so much because they're cutting Quentyn (his arc was a bit pointless), but more because it means the show is going to deviate from the books by quite a bit, and I don't know how I feel about that.
Yeah, there were some leaked casting sheets for the next season (allegedly) here and there on the Internet about a month ago. And yes, Arianne wasn't on them. The Sand Snakes, Trystane and Areo Hotah were, along with some not so important characters. The sheets could've well been a fake though. And even if they were true. Arianne could have been cast already. If they had someone specific in mind and didn't have to do open auditions, the character wouldn't have to feature in these sheets.
I don't think they'll cut her from the show, to be honest. She's the heir to the Dornish throne after all, and she's one of the main POV characters in "Feast for Crows".
I don't think they'll cut her from the show, to be honest. She's the heir to the Dornish throne after all, and she's one of the main POV characters in "Feast for Crows".
Judging by the sample chapters, Arianne is going to quite important in the next book as well.
I fear for the next season. With no Stoneheart they will have to invent stuff up for Jaime and Brienne and going by their past record whatever they end up with is likely to be shit. And they had better cast Wyman Manderley as well. The guy was fecking brilliant in the Dance.
I fear for the next season. With no Stoneheart they will have to invent stuff up for Jaime and Brienne and going by their past record whatever they end up with is likely to be shit. And they had better cast Wyman Manderley as well. The guy was fecking brilliant in the Dance.
I actually don't think Quentyn's story arc was pointless. It might very well have cost Dany the support of Dorne in the upcoming second Dance of the Dragons. I'm pretty sure that Quentyn dying at the hands of Dany's dragons will drive Dorne right into the arms of Aegon even if it turns out that he is Blackfyre and not a Targaryen.
I don't like all this series surpassing the books stuff, and the fact that they're warping the story lines so much makes it even worse for me.
Well, I get nervous everytime that I hear that GRRM has published something that isn't called The Winds of Winter. They also misspelled Tyrion to Tryion.
can somebody please tell me where the TV series currently is in relation to the books?
Fully done with the first 3 books I think. Parts of the last 2 books have also been done for certain characters.