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I'm actually really fecking pissed off they took the Tysha stuff out, it's a key moment for the character progression.
I hope so. Maybe the direwolf will recognise Catelyn?
I am really hoping and praying for a Stark reunion of some sort in the next book.
Yea, Shae didn't really mean much.
That's just mean.
There is a theory that Jojen is dies off screen or rather sacrificed and part of his flesh/blood was given to Bran in the weirwood paste before he logged into weirwood.net
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Quite.
It was a decent enough episode, but it felt rushed at times trying to cram so much into the episode and I don't think it did each scene justice. Plus the changes in the storyline. If I took off my book tinted glasses I'm sure it'd have been more enjoyable.
- The battle at the Wall didn't feel that epic to me. 100,000 wildlings and all we see is a dozen or so camped on the edge?
- Tyrion and Jaime's parting on good terms?
- What was the point in Arya at the Bloody Gate a couple episodes ago? Especially with them announcing who she was, only for them to move on and now Arya board for Braavos?
- Brienne and the Hound fighting?
- No LSH?
- Jojen dying?
I understand keeping Varys involved somewhat. And Dany's scene was good for a change. Glad they included the Mountain being experimented on too.
Bah! I've been looking forward to the Lady Stoneheart reaction for ages
Quite possible. The other theory about him is that Jojen is in fact Howland.
Both are interesting although at the moment seems a bit unlikely.
I don't think he's Howland, as he's the only survivor left from the fight at the Tower of Joy. He's the only one who knows about R+L=J and what went on that day, so he's definitely going to make an appearance eventually.
The theories just get worse and worse.
Is Mance just camping on the front edge away from his army, for a laugh?
Yeah, there are quite a few things against him being Howland. However he knows quite a few things that a 13 years old kid shouldn't be supposed to know, like the name of a knight who once upon a time (before Jojen was born) rided with Ned Stark. He is also much more solemn than a 13 years old kid (eventhough he is a greendreamer) should be.
The third possibility that I read some times ago is that he actually doesn't have any power at all, but the bloodraven manipulated him by getting into his dreams in order to make him send Bran to bloodraven. However from all these things, him getting sacrificed from CoTF (willingly or not, under Brynden Rivers orders) seems the most likely. So folks, Bran ate Jojen.
Nah. Wait for Benjen being Daario. That is the worst one.
Nah, Bran ate Jojen is the worst.
Sometimes you have to accept the limitations of the TV medium, especially the financial ones.
Yeah, they went to the trouble to show how large Stannis's forces were which surprised me, the financial limitations were probably the issue.
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1kxijq/spoilers_all_jojen_paste_revisited_why_it_might/
Obviously chances aren't exactly high, but still
I think they spunked their budget when they got the Skeletons from Jason and the Argonaughts.
I refuse to believe that!!
Has Martin ever killed a character off-screen though? Beric Dondarrian was killed in that way, right?
Balon Greyjoy.
Hmm, yeah Beric was of page. Balon as well. I don't think the of page killing is an issue with the theory. It just makes no sense to me.
Yeah, forgot about Balon but anyway he is Coldhands (not really). If you read the theory it doesn't look completely stupid. It is as least as believable as Daario being Euron.
Of course, the only two theories which are pretty much confirmed so far are R + L = J and Bloodraven = Brynden Rivers.
Of course, the only two theories which are pretty much confirmed so far are R + L = J and Bloodraven = Brynden Rivers.
Are we now at the end of Bran's story from the books? so everything we see in season 5 will be new info?
is that skeleton fight bullshit also in the books ? it just doesn't add up
Feck that episode.
I'll start by saying there was a lot to like. I think.
I'm completely gutted about the whole Tyrion/Tywin/Jaime/Shae scene. Well, to be fair, they did okay apart from the Tyrion/Jaime scene. 'Whereever whores go' and Tysha were, in my opinion, unchangeable. And Tyrion's anger, hitting back at Jaime with the Cersei dig (true, Moon Boy and the Kettleblacks haven't appeared, but he could have mentioned Lancel and maybe something about Loras, as well as saying that he did in fact kill Joff) is a huge part of Jaime's up coming story. This chapter in the book is my favourite, easily. So much changes, the Lannister family in the span of minutes crumbles. I just feel that it could have been so, so much better, and has changed so much that the upcoming story won't be as effective or interesting.
Jojen dying...I don't know what to think. What does that mean for book Jojen? Children don't look as weird/different as I thought they would, but pretty cool to see Bloodraven/three-eyed crow. The Wall stuff was done well, I thought. Nice to see more of Mance anyway, and Stannis/Davos were pretty badass. Meereen stuff was ok, revealing the charred child and chaining the dragons was good. Hound vs Brienne fight was intense, although I wonder what the Brienne storyline holds now? Better she met the Hound than meeting Stoneheart far too early, which is what I feared might happen. Leave Stoneheart for next season.
I said in a previous post (think it was after the White Walker kingdom reveal) that certain changes/additions could really add to the TV adaptation. And at the end of the day, this is what Game of Thrones is, an adaptation of the ASOIAF saga. But I just don't see the benefit, or at least, not yet, of some of these changes. I think I'm so attached to that particular Tyrion chapter in the books that any changes would have irked me, but it's left a bad taste in the mouth. Not happy is my overall opinion.
I'll start by saying there was a lot to like. I think.
I'm completely gutted about the whole Tyrion/Tywin/Jaime/Shae scene. Well, to be fair, they did okay apart from the Tyrion/Jaime scene. 'Whereever whores go' and Tysha were, in my opinion, unchangeable. And Tyrion's anger, hitting back at Jaime with the Cersei dig (true, Moon Boy and the Kettleblacks haven't appeared, but he could have mentioned Lancel and maybe something about Loras, as well as saying that he did in fact kill Joff) is a huge part of Jaime's up coming story. This chapter in the book is my favourite, easily. So much changes, the Lannister family in the span of minutes crumbles. I just feel that it could have been so, so much better, and has changed so much that the upcoming story won't be as effective or interesting.
Jojen dying...I don't know what to think. What does that mean for book Jojen? Children don't look as weird/different as I thought they would, but pretty cool to see Bloodraven/three-eyed crow. The Wall stuff was done well, I thought. Nice to see more of Mance anyway, and Stannis/Davos were pretty badass. Meereen stuff was ok, revealing the charred child and chaining the dragons was good. Hound vs Brienne fight was intense, although I wonder what the Brienne storyline holds now? Better she met the Hound than meeting Stoneheart far too early, which is what I feared might happen. Leave Stoneheart for next season.
I said in a previous post (think it was after the White Walker kingdom reveal) that certain changes/additions could really add to the TV adaptation. And at the end of the day, this is what Game of Thrones is, an adaptation of the ASOIAF saga. But I just don't see the benefit, or at least, not yet, of some of these changes. I think I'm so attached to that particular Tyrion chapter in the books that any changes would have irked me, but it's left a bad taste in the mouth. Not happy is my overall opinion.
It was wights and (I think) whitewalkers
People saying Shae in Tywins bed made no sense.
Shows what a bad job they did of her in the trial stage.
Shows what a bad job they did of her in the trial stage.
It was good but should have been better, wish they'd have made it an hour and a half so things weren't so rushed. Each scene needed that bit more development.
The Tyrion omissions was disappointing as for me its always the best dialogue
The Tyrion omissions was disappointing as for me its always the best dialogue
As I recall the book leaves it to the reader to appreciate that she probably had no choice in the matter. I think Martin gives you as little info as possible to make it awkward and leaves the reader unsure if Tyrion's revenge was warranted.
After all, he tells Pod to accept the bribes rather than be tortured, wouldn't he say the same to Shea?
After all, he tells Pod to accept the bribes rather than be tortured, wouldn't he say the same to Shea?
Yeah I don't mind Shae attacking Tyrion too much. In the books the killing of Shae was almost barely described. I remember having to read it a few times to make sure he had killed her. I think I recall her saying something like 'my giant of Lannister' and that pushing Tyrion over the edge...would have preferred that to the immediate 'See Tyrion, grab the cheese knife' move they chose. Meh.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-why-no-lady-stoneheart/
Sounds to me like there's a chance they might just leave Stoneheart out all together.
Sounds to me like there's a chance they might just leave Stoneheart out all together.
Well, is there are point to her? We don't really know yet.
The show is becoming a giant spoiler for the next books!!!