Books A Song of Ice and Fire (Books) | TV show? What TV show?

Revan said:
On another note, how cool it would be a spinoff (be it books or TV show) which will be based around Robert's rebellion.
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Or maybe a trilogy on the rebellion. I mean they created a trilogy for the hobbit so this shouldn't be too hard. I wouldn't mind a spin off on the princess and the queen either though costs might be too exorbitant for that.
 
akash02 said:
Or maybe a trilogy on the rebellion. I mean they created a trilogy for the hobbit so this shouldn't be too hard. I wouldn't mind a spin off on the princess and the queen either though costs might be too exorbitant for that.
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Have you read it? What is it about? (princess and the queen)
 
akash02 said:
Dance of the dragons.

The prequel to it is out sometime this year as well.
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It is interesting while on ASOIAF that conflict isn't mentioned that much, despite being probably the biggest open war since Aegon's conquest.

It's ending is also very funny. Apparently the son of the queen married the daughter of the king and it all ended well. Well, the queen was eaten by a dragon and almost every Targaryan and around ten dragons were killed but still it had a Hollywoodian ending.
 
Scrumpet said:
Surprised at how he has arrived at the Tywin thing. He seems more involved than ever.
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Tywin hasn't had a powerful speech in a long time. His only non-duty type scene that I remember from this season was when he played Jamie during the trial. In the seasons before he was a much more prominent character. This season he's kind of been like his book self.

Also, going by how many prominent characters are killed off in this series then it's not unreasonable to think that he'll be killed. In fact, you really should assume by now that anyone might be killed at any time.
 
Snow said:
Tywin hasn't had a powerful speech in a long time. His only non-duty type scene that I remember from this season was when he played Jamie during the trial. In the seasons before he was a much more prominent character. This season he's kind of been like his book self.

Also, going by how many prominent characters are killed off in this series then it's not unreasonable to think that he'll be killed. In fact, you really should assume by now that anyone might be killed at any time.
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I dunno, before the trial episode I remember scenes he had with Oberyn, Olenna, Tommen, Jaime, Cersei. As for prominent characters getting killed off, sure, but he posted that he expects Tywin to be gone soon because he hasn't featured that much.
 
Wibble is quite astute.

Although they like to kill main characters I get the feeling that Tyrion might be the one of the few characters that will carry the story through to the very end. Since he is the best character by far this may be wishful thinking but I'm going to go with my hunch. I also think that the dragons must be part of the end game so Danerys must have a good chance of surviving to the end.

If this guess is true then who is going to die in the next 2 episodes?

John Snow? I'm thinking not as his and Sam's storyline seems to be important for the wilding/white walkers part of the plot. If the Wildings slaughter everyone then the North is very vulnerable. I therefore expect the Night's Watch to beat or more likely outwit the wildings thus slowing this part of the plot somewhat. Maybe they will block the wall/tunnel up and fall back to ???? Take Winterfell?

Tywin Lanister is a great character but he is so powerful and manipulative that it would take quite something to get rid of him but if he was dead the plot could move with a bit more freedom. More poison perhaps? The bald eunuch to allow Tyrion to escape? Given we need a shock death of a really major character I think he is at least possible.

Jaime Lanister - rapist, child attempted murderer, incest enthusiast but nice to tall female knights and his brother (sort of). It would seem an odd time to kill him as his life or death wouldn't move the plot along much at the moment.

Danerys Targereon = Tits and dragons. Not going anywhere.

Reek - who cares? Could be an easy major character to write out

Cersei Lanister - nasty piece of work, should die horribly therefore won't. Not yet at least. I think there is more to her story yet so low death chance.

Various young stark offspring - all seem important for now so will probably survive

Tall female knight whatever her name is and the former serf to Tyrion have only just started their journey so probably won't die

Hodor - hodor hodor hodor

Bron - seems to have just started a new storyline so low death chance.

Petyr Baylish - surely has a major plot arc to go so won't die.

Ygritte - may have become superfluous once John Snow did a runner. Maybe not and may join up with John again.

Leader of the Wildings could be in danger as a fairly generic baddy

Annoying bloke who lead the Knights Watch is probably going to die to allow John Snow to do whatever John Snow is going to do next.

Fat Sam and his woman and baby. You lot hate them so they will live.

fat bald eunuch and the expelled knight seem to still have plot importance so probably safe.

So my guesses at chance of death are:

75% Annoying bloke who lead the Knights Watch
55% Leader of the Wildings
50% Reek, Tywin Lanister, Ygritte
25% Tyrion
20% Jaime Lanister
15% John Snow, Hodor
10% Tall female knight whatever her name and the former serf to Tyrion, Cersei Lanister, all the young Stark offspring, Bron, Fat bald eunuch, knight expelled by Daneyris
5% Petyr Baylish
2% Danerys Targereon
1% Fat Sam and his woman and baby

So 2-3 of the 5 characters I've rated at 50% or above would be my guess unless Tyrion ends up dead. I suppose only the 3 at 50% are really main characters so maybe 2 of them if Tyrion survives.
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Yeah just read his posts and he seems to be on to it. Also has 2-3 of the next major deaths high on his list.

Also a good call from him that Varys will be involved in freeing Tyrion even though the show might do it differently.
 
I doubt they'll do it differently. Maybe do it in a different way but they won't change who rescues him from Varys to someone else.
 
Putting readers in the books isn't really anything new. He's got to get his names from somewhere anyway. Beyond taking longer to write, I don't think there will be anything important impacted at all.
 
Reading through the last page of the other thread and they've predicted Tywin's death, Jaime rescuing Tyrion and Stannis turning up to save the day on the wall theres also a few predictions that are way off but I can't believe they figured all those out.
 
Beats me how they're predicting Tywin's death. Why do they even think someone major has to die in the the last two episodes? Joffrey and Oberyn could easily be enough for the season.
 
Neil_Buchanan said:
Reading through the last page of the other thread and they've predicted Tywin's death, Jaime rescuing Tyrion and Stannis turning up to save the day on the wall theres also a few predictions that are way off but I can't believe they figured all those out.
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Closet Book Readers, every one of them!
 
kps88 said:
Beats me how they're predicting Tywin's death. Why do they even think someone major has to die in the the last two episodes? Joffrey and Oberyn could easily be enough for the season.
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Wibble's reasoning was that killing Tywin opens up a whole new can of worms, while now he's sort of dominating every real intrigue that goes on (there's Varys and Littlefinger and all, but all of them go around Tywin). It actually makes a bit of sense.

I still think the vast majority of TV viewers will be shocked when it happens, though.
 
niMic said:
Wibble's reasoning was that killing Tywin opens up a whole new can of worms, while now he's sort of dominating every real intrigue that goes on (there's Varys and Littlefinger and all, but all of them go around Tywin). It actually makes a bit of sense.

I still think the vast majority of TV viewers will be shocked when it happens, though.
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The way he dies and who kills him will definitely shock them.
 
niMic said:
Wibble's reasoning was that killing Tywin opens up a whole new can of worms, while now he's sort of dominating every real intrigue that goes on (there's Varys and Littlefinger and all, but all of them go around Tywin). It actually makes a bit of sense.

I still think the vast majority of TV viewers will be shocked when it happens, though.
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Honestly though, if you over think it you could give reasons to justify almost any major character's death.
 
Do you guys think we'll hear the 'Stannis' cheer this episode?
 
I don't understand why the viewers in the other thread keep using "XXX's plot has ground to a halt, they have nowhere to go" in their predictions for the next character deaths. There's plenty of fecking ways for them to go. This is GoT. The reason for their limited airtime has more to do with the sheer numbers of characters than anything else.

"Tywin is effectively the ruler of Kings Landing. War on all fronts. Plot dead. Nowhere to go."
"Jon's at the wall. WW and Wildlings coming. Probably will die. Plot dead. Nowhere to go."
"Jaime's lost a hand. What good is he without a hand? Plot dead. Nowhere to go."
 
Ramshock said:
Again people need to realize the difference between screenplay and book. I havent read all the books so I dont know how her arc goes. I was talking about her screen role. Cheers anyway
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They don't know how much you've read, and they don't know what knowledge you bring into your assumptions. It's best just not to do it at all.
 
This should be good.

I don't remember anything about the battle other the fact that Ygritte dies and Stannis arrives.
 
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