May not have a choice. De Ligt would be a dream signing for Spurs but there will be a lot of competition for him which they didn’t have with Sanchez.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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May not have a choice. De Ligt would be a dream signing for Spurs but there will be a lot of competition for him which they didn’t have with Sanchez.
There's a difference between what Conte would regard as backing compared to what Poch would. Poch would probably be very happy with £200m (regardless of net spend) and an all conquering academy to tap into, where-as Conte pretty much wants a blank cheque. And lets be honest, while we are not as big spending as we use to be, we look like City and PSG combined compared to Levy's policy.
Im not for one second saying we will get him, just pointing out the difference.
Wouldn't Poch like to make the signings himself though? Im sure he has influence in this area at Spurs. Chelsea he wouldn't.
His recent comments.
Isn't it well known Levy often signs players above managers head? Redknapp went on record saying he had no idea about the VDV deal and im sure AVB said similar about the infamous 2013 supermarket sweep. Not to mention Llorente and Sissoko don't exactly sound like the players Poch would sign and don't suit his system in the slightest.
And i think it's a bit of a myth that managers here get totally no say, with some signings that's clearly the case (Barkley, Batshuayi) but is it a coincidence that we don't look to sign targetmen for years then a manager with a history for using them comes in and suddenly were linked with almost every player that fits that profile? or that we sign no Serie A player for ages (Sheva was the last pre Conte) now half our signing's are coming from that league? The typical board signing down the years is a young player (maximum 24) which worse case scenario they can make a profit on, targetmen in their early 30's is the opposite of what they go for.
I want him to win something before he is considered as a potential Chelsea manger. Maybe take a small step up to an Everton or Newcastle first.
True, but how would the fans the chairman and the fans feel about waiting another year or so for CL? Poch will do it his own way and that will start by rebuilding the whole team the way he wants it.
Anyway I don’t think he would take manage another London team, it’s not really his style. Ofc he doesn’t mention Chelsea but it’s still a Derby rival, he will move on at some point and I would say Real, PSG OR United would be his destination.
‘I am never going to be manager of Barcelona or Arsenal because I am so identified with Tottenham and Espanyol. I grew up with Newell’s Old Boys and will never manage [their rivals] Rosario Central.
‘That is my decision. I prefer to work on my farm in Argentina than in some places.’
Honestly his comments people seem to pick and choose what he says to suit his agenda. He wants the backing from Levy and IMO he will get it.
The one advantage we have over what you did circa 2014 is we already have a core of world class players. If he inherited Courtois, Azpi, Kante and Hazard at Spurs he would have likely made it top four with you in his first season, (i know he's turned Walker, Vertonghen and Rose to top level but they weren't imo when he inherited them).
Agree with your last line, i don't think he likes us very much either.
He’s a loyal guy and when he does a job he really does become intwined in the club, I mean none of our managers or players looked very happy during our rumble last season
. Not doubting if Pch did move her would have more resources, but it just doesn’t look a right fit. I think you should make a move for Jose, his first love in England after all 
.He’s a loyal guy and when he does a job he really does become intwined in the club, I mean none of our managers or players looked very happy during our rumble last season
Funny thing is in terms of the route the fans want to take (and from the rumours the hierarchy too) he would be a great fit. With the likes of Ampadu, Hudson Odoi, Reece James and Mason Mount coming through the system most fans are in wide agreement that a manager willing to tap into the academy is the most important aspect for the next manager.
The next best after Poch in that regard would be Leo Jardim, and funnily enough i'm torn between him and Sarri for who i want next, the latter hasn't got the record with young players but at the same time Napoli's youth aren't a patch on ours or the one's LJ had at Monaco so it's hard to truly judge.
I agree that Pochettino is just looking to put a little bit of pressure to Levy to back him up properly. I dont think he is looking to move. But will he get as much backing as he is expecting is another matter and that could set the tone for next to next season for Poch.
If the right players are available Pochettino will have money from the sales of Alderweireld, Rose, Onomah, Janssen, Sissoko, N'Koudou. That should be 100mil+ so enough to bring in some players who fit that Pochettino profile.
We don't know how much the players Poch wants would cost. I meant by the sound of his recent press conference, he wants proven quality which 100mil+ ain't exactly amounting to much in this market (see Chelsea and their so called not spend enough transfer bill). Also this is WC year which interrupts transfer dealing & shopping window close early would put all power in sellers' hands.
I believe POch will get 100M plus whatever they can raise from the sale of players they dont want. I dont see them getting much from any of the players they dont want except for Alderweireld. If they sell some 6 players, they need to have numbers too and i doubt they can replace all of them even though some are only squad players.
I honestly believe he will players like Hugo and Eriksen have spoken time and time again about how influential Poch is to them. With Poch I’m pretty confident we can keep the core team together, without him I’m not so sure. With the commercial side, naming rights and corporate Levy will not want any bumps in the road moving into the new stadium. I think in the grand scheme of things £100-150M isn’t going to ruin ENICs grand plan that much as much as losing the team and current status we have. That’s just my feeling.
I also dont think there is a real risk of losing any of your core players this summer. And Poch will get some backing too ( aound 100M). Only risk I see is if POch do not show any sign of winning any trophy any time soon, then some of those core players might want to leave in the next summer though.
I agree fully, I have a suspicion we will see a big signing, one that some might not think possible, hey I can dream.
You've needed one of these for a few years in my opinion. Someone with CL experience and pedigree. Question is who and who leaves or makes way?
Still feel Rose and Alderweireld will go which instantly leaves work to be done to strengthen the squad.
This summer is key for Spurs.
Who would this be? Kovacic? Im not sure he has a future at RM.
In the last 5 seasons Arsenal (Wenger) has finished above Spurs in 3 off them (Not sure when Poch arrived off top of head). Wenger has won 3 cups in this time to Poch 0. Yet Poch has meant to had the better team, I just don’t get it. I’m not saying Poch is terrible just pointing out how differently the media have treated Poch and Wenger yet record wise Wenger is doing better with a supposedly worse team.
Also the point you make about United only finishing second because other teams are shite is spot on this season. The fact we are still finishing second playing so poorly is there to see. We are there for the taking yet all the teams below us have their issues. The league is poorest it’s been in years but without doubt standards are starting to rise again (due to money).
Conte spent a fortune in the summer.
@duffer Would that be a small step up from Chelsea to Everton or Newcastle you are talking about? Come on mate that’s a poor wind up. Spurs are the bigger club nowadays from those two mentioned.
£150 million we will spend IMO. We will be in the market for the top tier players for once although of course they will be relatively younger. We won't be blowing loads on 28 year olds.
This was always the summer we were looking to go all guns blazing.
Rose's quotes in the media today by the way, it doesn't sound like he's leaving
"I'm here and I'm looking forward to coming back to preseason, and hopefully me and Ben [Davies] can start fresh and fight for the No. 1 position. I fancy myself against anybody in the league."
Rose also stressed his desire to win trophies in August's outspoken interview, while questioning Tottenham's transfer strategy -- comments that cost him two weeks' wages.
Pochettino touched on similar issues in his final press conference of the campaign, calling on the club to be "brave and take risks" in order to challenge for top honours.
Asked for his thoughts on the manager's comments, Rose said: "I've learned my lesson speaking about that sort of stuff. But it's good that the manager has come out and said that. I hope the manager, his coaching staff, the recruitment staff and the chairman can all come together and give the manager what he wants."
"I'm fully behind whatever happens in the offseason. I hope we get some good recruits to help us push on. As the manager said, the next step now is to hopefully win something next year."
No he isn't. Spurs finished above Arsenal the past two seasons and have played CL whilst Arsenal play Europa. Winning an FA Cup does not overshadow or trump CL qualification which is why Wenger has been forced out and Pochettino is in high demand. Do you not think Arsenal would hire Poch if they could? Would Arsenal have sacked Poch if he achieved at Arsenal what he's achieved at Spurs?
There is more to management than just winning an FA Cup. The domestic cups are a side show nowadays, an after thought. CL qualification is the big time and that's why Wenger has paid the price. (Two successive failures).
I completely reject your notion the league is the poorest it's been in years. Spurs beat Real Madrid this season and were the dominant team against multiple consecutive seria A winners Juventus. Liverpool are in the CL final. City just won the league by record points and thrashed numerous teams in the CL. Arsenal made the Europa semi final.
I don't find any evidence whatsoever to baxk up your claim that the PL is weak. You are jist using it to suit your point that spurs only finished high in the league because other teams have fallen, which with all due respect is absolute rubbish. United may have been boring but you have been typically ruthlessly efficient which is a Mourinho trait of his teams. You absolutely deserve 2nd. Teams finish whwre they deserve to.
Sorry don’t agree, I’m not saying all you say is wrong as it’s clearly not. Although facts are in Poch time at Spurs how many finishes above Wenger and vice versus? It’s very close and Wenger has won more cups (3 more in this period). Plus Poch has meant to have had the better set of players in this time. You can’t have it both ways buddy.
Have a look at the Champions league for the last 5 years do you think English teams have been strong? Liverpool played Basil, City and Roma on route to EL. I’m not trying to take anything away from them their achievement is amazing but don’t tell me it’s not the luck of the cup draw that fortunes them here? Rather than Liverpool being one of the dominant sides in Europe. All the top teams in England are still quite a bit behind Barca, Real, Bayern and arguably Juve and Athletico Madrid.
Juventus knocked Spurs out did they not? Plus I’d have fancied Real in the knockouts as proven. Liverpool I’ve addressed and City getting record points backs my theory up as does the amount of teams in the premiership sitting on a record low point tally. Arsenal getting to EL semi is not a great achievement in my book but if you are going to go on about it we can add that to Wengers recent record. We have been poor this season (United) but still finished second.
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Its not really the transfer fee which seems to be the problem, did they no spend a bomb on the CB from Ajax ? its the wages which seem to be the main problems, looking at the players linked away Toby, Rose, Dembele for example who could spurs really get in to upgrade them?
Would be an ideal replacement for Dembele, if he goes.
Could it be?
What?
Madrid are gonna raid your team with £600m of investment. Including the manager.
Flo about to feck Levy.
According to Marca he renewed but with the condition that he would be free in case that Madrid call him
Come on, he just signed a 5 year contract.
That was denied by some reports in England.
I know Spurs fans will give it all the "Oh Poch is happy here" but in the real world, I think in the back of his mind there will be a voice saying "shit"
Even if he wanted to sign a new contract, he should not have done it so hastily. He could have toyed with Real Madrid's interest and then signed a bigger contract. But no doubt he'd take the job if offered imo.
Even if he wanted to sign a new contract, he should not have done it so hastily. He could have toyed with Real Madrid's interest and then signed a bigger contract. But no doubt he'd take the job if offered imo.
Means nothing these days.
I hope somewhere out there a certain Spurs fan is having a fecking meltdown of epic proportions.
Gotta feel for other Spurs fans though. Just thought that you secured your best manager in recent history for another year at least and then boom - Zidane fecks you!
Gotta feel for other Spurs fans though. Just thought that you secured your best manager in recent history for another year at least and then boom - Zidane fecks you!
Contract is worth 8.5m a year, so thats a measly £43m to pay it out. It'll only happen if Poch angles for a move, so it's unlikely.
If his head is turned, that contract means squat.
Real Madrid is the end game for any manager worth his salt. If they come after Poch, he won't even hesitate.