Potchettino got found out again yesterday. He's one of those second tier managers that always seems to come up short when it matters most. Put it this way, if Tottenham had Jose and we had Potch yesterday, we'd be the one's out of the competition, not them.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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Poch has done really well for Spurs but people take it overboard when they start comparing him with Jose and other truly elite managers. For me, he still has a lot to prove. I knew Spurs would get knocked out yesterday mainly because of Poch and that game revealed what some people already know about the Spurs manager.
Why didn't he sub off Son early enough for Lucas? Son, after the first 30 minutes or so, started having a very average game.
Same can be said of Dembele. He could have brought in Wanyama earlier to replace the Belgian who was playing almost at snail speed. And of course, Kane was having a terrible game. Poch should have pulled him out, pushed Ali into his role and maybe put in Lamela to play at the back of Ali.
And which planet is Sanchez better than Alderwireild? Why bench his second best center back who is fully fit?
Let's not even talk about the whole mentality he took into the match.
He is a good manager but to want him at United over Jose, or compare him to very elite managers, is strange to say the least.
Why didn't he sub off Son early enough for Lucas? Son, after the first 30 minutes or so, started having a very average game.
Same can be said of Dembele. He could have brought in Wanyama earlier to replace the Belgian who was playing almost at snail speed. And of course, Kane was having a terrible game. Poch should have pulled him out, pushed Ali into his role and maybe put in Lamela to play at the back of Ali.
And which planet is Sanchez better than Alderwireild? Why bench his second best center back who is fully fit?
Let's not even talk about the whole mentality he took into the match.
He is a good manager but to want him at United over Jose, or compare him to very elite managers, is strange to say the least.
Posh David Moyes.
Gets plaudits for doing it with a smaller club but never actually wins anything.
Gets plaudits for doing it with a smaller club but never actually wins anything.
I didn't like that. So unnecessary, and ugly, and they hardly got punished for it. Is Pochettino responsible you think? I agree it kinda looked tactical almost as Lingard especially seemed to be targeted
Didn't he say something along the lines of he encourages his players to dive?
They do it almost every time they go down and considering he said previously he doesn't mind diving or cheating as part of the game, I can say comfortably it can't be anything except his instructions and the way of play.
The only thing wrong with this thread is the word "serious" on the title. So no, I can't really take Poch seriously and would not really want him as our manager. If people think he is good in developing young players, maybe Mourinho can offer him a position to manage and develop our youngsters. Sure, the money is not that good as he gets now, but he will be employed by the biggest club in the world - put that in your resume Poch.
They do seem to do it an awful lot. Happens occasionally for most teams, but spuds it seems to be numerous times per match. Nasty nasty tactic, could have ended Jesse's World Cup chances. Wish the media will sit up and take notice, as it can't just be a coincidence surely and refs shouldn't be allowing those can of challenges to go unpunished. Seems Valencia was the only one being highlighted after the game!
I think he wants to manage Real or PSG and somehow get some easy trophies on his CV. Copa del Rey or Ligue 1 at the least. Trouble is, unless he wins trophies with Spurs, he ain't getting those jobs. Chicken or egg situation.
He's like the guy on Fifa who is 2-0 down after 15 minutes and then starts to mess about and pretends he didn't want to win anyway.
Think soon he will realize that acting in tune with English media will come to bite him at the end.
So is he saying they shouldn't be expected to win anything?
It's all a bit confusing for Pochettino. Apparently, going to the next level is winning the league or CL. But, winning the FA cup is too much to ask. He wants to operate in limbo where he is praised for winning and spared from criticism when losing.
To be fair to him, a lot of United fans live in this limbo as well. When they win Poch is amazing and when they lose Poch is also amazing for getting them there to lose in the first place.
With this type of thinking I doubt he will succeed in any demanding big club.
100% this.
Those quotes are downright bizarre. Basically wants to operate without any pressure of winning trophies. If that's his mentality, he'd be in for a shock if/when he lands a big job.
Winning isn't really important you know
Getting some football hipster to United is fine as long as we get entertainment.Bizarre comments.
Also poor management on Saturday. He was buzzing when they scored so he obviously wanted it. At the end he almost looked relieved. Like it was over and they could just go back to being praised and not scrutinised in big games. Probably didn't want to worry about a Chelsea final
Also poor management on Saturday. He was buzzing when they scored so he obviously wanted it. At the end he almost looked relieved. Like it was over and they could just go back to being praised and not scrutinised in big games. Probably didn't want to worry about a Chelsea final
I thought son played well to begin with, got by Valencia a few times and looked dangerous. Just stopped even attempting it as the game went on.
I think PSG are looking for an A-lister.
With all the superstars they have in the dressing room at PSG, there is no way that a manager who has never won a trophy will get any respect in there.
I think PSG were interested in Jose and that's the sort of calibre of manager that they are looking for.
Should have taken harry the golden goose off and moved Son central. May have had a bit more joy
Kane has been awful since he's come back from injury, obviously rushed back too soon. And i'm not blaming spurs for this one i suspect Kane forced them to let him come back early to compete for the Golden Boot. Something tells me he's going to be awful at the WC too.
That's pretty pathetic. Hes done that the last few years and is one of the main reasons i dont rate him.
Imagine what he’s be like under the pressure of managing a big club where you’re expected to win every game if that’s the way he responds to not being a serial semi-finalist? It’s on par with Wenger celebrating 4th place as a trophy.
I still rate Wenger tbh. Hes hasn't had the funds to compete for ages, getting a bunch of middling players (all the good ones move on to City or Barcelona) to 4th every year and a few cup wins are decent achievements. They're stuck in limbo and have stagnated primarily due to the board and the atmosphere there looks a bit toxic atm. I'd be surprised if anyone else does better
Wengers done a good job at Arsenal but the game also left him behind some years ago. We’ve all heard about how he revolutionised the game when he arrived with the dieting and fitness, now everyone does that and more. The only thing that kept Arsenal competitive was him but to see how far he’s fell you’ve only got to look at the season Arsenal failed to win the league when no one else wanted it, I’m sure Leicester aren’t complaining though!
Thats fair. He stands a passable chance of finishing with a Europa League which is nothing to sneeze at mind you. He got there by taking the earlier rounds seriously and not talking it down as beneath him. Every competition Arsenal enter they want to win. Which i think puts Wenger, even at this stage, on a higher level than Pochettino. Whatever about the money involved in the two teams, Spurs have had the better squad the last few years imo. Then again maybe Wengers to blame for some of his players looking a bit crap
Kane looked terrible, could barely jog and gingerly laid the ball off to others. Guess he can still blast it if the ball comes to him though.
Poch needs to win something, still dont get all the "next RM manager" hype, for me he doesnt have the pedigree yet. Not saying he wont ever have it, but surely winning something, anything would add a bit of weight to his CV.
Poch needs to win something, still dont get all the "next RM manager" hype, for me he doesnt have the pedigree yet. Not saying he wont ever have it, but surely winning something, anything would add a bit of weight to his CV.
Off to Chelsea according to the papers go on bite Glaston
Heard that on Talksport this morning driving to the station. Think Chelsea could offer more money obviously but I would be very surprised if that materialized.
Do people forget when he left Southampton, it was seen by some as a sideways move? The guy is clearly career-driven. He will leave if he sees a better opportunity.
Having said that, I'm not sure Chelsea is big enough right now, but they have potential.
Having said that, I'm not sure Chelsea is big enough right now, but they have potential.
This could get interesting.
Pochettino could be making a serious mistake if he does go there. He may not be able to compete with funds at Spurs, but he is allowed to build a side there, which I very much doubt he will be able to do at Chelsea. On positive side he could be available again when Mourinho goes.
Do everything we can to get him here, if there is even the slightest chance of him becoming available, we will hopefully be making some moves behind the scenes.
Can we have a less serious look at this guy please?
Come on, Chelsea? Really? There is absolutely nothing Poch has ever said anywhere that he would want a move to to a club like Chelsea? Has Ibramovic even said he is willing to spend big again? Of course it’s always possible but I doubt this very much and all stems from Poch’s comments after the Last game. Im pretty confident he will be in charge come September.
Chelsea won't win anything with Potch, especially due to the investment that squad needs, he won't get the funds he's asking for there. He's better off waiting until a bigger team comes along with a bigger budget if he wants a step up, currently he's better off staying put.
He won't win anything at Tottenham but at least the fans will put up with it for the next couple of seasons.
He won't win anything at Tottenham but at least the fans will put up with it for the next couple of seasons.
Kind of glad this came out before the cup final. Also with a 5 year contract to spare, Levy would ask for a king's ransom in restitution from Chelsea.
I don't think many people would fancy the Chelsea job given the issues Conte had this season and their bizarre transfer policies.
I do think Poch is open to leaving Spurs though. Just not to them.