Pochettino isn't going to abandon CL football with Spurs to go and manage Chelsea in the Europa League.
A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino
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True. I think Potch also feels winning the CL is achievable. Seem's to be the only competition he takes seriously.
Can't see Poch leaving Spurs to join Chelsea.
Why? He’s the 3rd longest manager still managing in the PL and the 9th overall in the football league. That’s not something you take lightly, Poch will stay as long as he is gettting the support he needs, I think Levy will back him.
He really needs to be winning something soon. Spurs got lucky this year with Chelsea and Arsenal being so off the pace. Or his stock wouldn’t be so high has a bit of the emperor with new clothes for me.
That's a short term view of it, as he is more than capable of getting them back into the CL within the next year; players leave clubs in the CL to play in a lesser comp (Di Maria/Pogba) although this is also money orientated, I'm sure Poch would get paid more at Chelsea.
However, this does not make sense to me at all. Can only think it is either Poch's agent putting pressure on Spurs, or Chelsea trying to destabilise a rival.
I'd be surprised to see him anywhere else but Spurs next year.
He's done alright at Spurs. He's actually a good manager, way better than Brendan Rodgers.
Not sure I can agree with this. Brendan has achieved more and came closer to winning the league. Poch has flattered to deceive for me.
Our youth system is the best in the country, and we have talented English talent on loan. It has been rumoured Roman is a big fan of Poch and wants to move towards more use of the academy to produce first team players. Pochettino would be arguably the best manager out there to implement such a strategy, as well as having the current crop of players to work with too. I don't know how true it is, but apparently Pochettino is on something like £3.5 million salary at Spurs which is pittance considering how far he's brought Spurs. I don't personally think he'll be our manager, but who knows.
As much as it's fun to mock Spurs, I think last season they had poor fortune in Kane being injured for so long. If he was fit, maybe they could have pushed us harder and maybe pipped us to the title.
Getting top 4 with arsenal is overrated. They're still the top 4 before city. Finishing 4th above the likes of everton arent something special. It's par
Really finding it hard to envisage any this.
I’m not sure how you are measuring youth system but United have more academy players playing in the premiership than anyone else. Chelsea have won things st youth level but how many have actually played. So I get your point regarding Poch but not sure I agree with you saying it’s the best.
It won't happen. Roman and Chelsea are too focused on winning trophies, so any coach they sign will be under pressure to deliver on that front.
Jesus, at just under 4 years that's kind of ridiculous.
I agree we need to win something, but in all fairness we have heard for seasons now about how lucky we are that other teams are off pace, I think we deserve to be where we are.
Well, he left Southampton for a slightly bigger club when the offer came in didnt't he? Who is to say he won't do it when bigger clubs than Tottenham come knocking? I believe Poch is very satisfied with being a big fish in a small pond right now, but eventually you get huge offers and you grow bigger than what Tottenham can offer. Bigger clubs have more money and more pull in the market, more attention and not least a lot more fans worldwide. At the end of the day, you know you only have one career and one shot at stacking up your list of honors. Should he risk all of it to perhaps, just maybe, win a Carabao Cup with Tottenham in 2023? I think we will see yet another summer where City spend money on great players, United will try and do the same, Chelsea are out for vengeance backed by Abramovich and Liverpool have already acquired Keita. The problem for Poch and Spurs is that even though their organic growth has been the best they've ever seen - and United have been in the shits for years, we suddenly popped in front of you in the league like it was nothing. That definitely stings for Poch and he is starting to see the glass ceiling and obvious limitations. Tottenham could have a great season next year and finish 6th, that's how close it is.
Spurs is to Man Utd/Real what Southampton is to Spurs, it's basic career goals.
You would think we were talking about a multiple trophy serial winner the way some fawn at this guy.
United managers are expected to win trophies. No guarantee that a step in club will lead to that. Like it didn't happen with Moyes(a 3 time LMA manager of the year)
He left Southampton because the team was sold out from underneath him. It’s the usual patronising stuff from you, Tottenham is only a slightly bigger club than Southampton? Really? Considering Conte has complained all season about a lack of backing from Ibramovic now Poch will get all the backing from him?
Yes there are bigger clubs with bigger wages and I have no doubt that if Poch feels he should go he will, but neither you or I know for sure what he is thinking, how you think you know is beyond me.
No surprise this link appears after Pochettino's words.
Don't think there's anything in it but a gentle reminder to Levy that he can feck off to a top club if he doesn't get what he wants.
Don't think there's anything in it but a gentle reminder to Levy that he can feck off to a top club if he doesn't get what he wants.
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What does Zlatan have to do with Chelsea?
Also Conte was backed and his moaning was baseless. Chelsea spent a fortune in the summer and January. They bought Morata, Giroud, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Barkley, Zappacosta, Emerson. That is around £200m so Conte has nothing to argue about.
What does Zlatan have to do with Chelsea?
Also Conte was backed and his moaning was baseless. Chelsea spent a fortune in the summer and backed Conte. They bought Morata, Giroud, Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Barkley, Zappacosta, Emerson. That is £200m so Conte has nothing to argue about.
Lol I have no idea how I mention Zlatan. How many of those players would get into the Spurs starting 11?
I woupd take the Chelsea job if I were him. Time to test himself at a big club and Chelsea are in a state they can be a bit patient on the next manager so will be a very good chance for him.
He'll stay for the first season in the new stadium I think but if Spurs don't kick on, I think he'll be off. Which will be very helpful because I have a sneeky suspicion we'll be in the market for a new manager next year.
What's there to kick on other than actually winning something?
Top 4?
Semi final of champions league?
To top this season he'll have to win something , or be in a tight race with the big boys, something i dont see him pulling. He had that one chance in the blue moon against leicester and he blew it off.
Ashton's article - not that Chelsea might not want him - is total nonsense from a bitter journo who hates THFC after his good mate Sherwood was sacked. For starter's the article mentions Poch's agent will meet Chelsea this week - Poch doesn't have an agent as mentioned in his book.
Poch has already ruled etrernally ruled out the Barcelona job - a considerably bigger/better one than Chelsea - because he managed Espanyol over 5 years ago now. How likely that he switches from Spurs to bitter rivals Chelsea in the same summer.
And finally, the days of Chelsea's big spending are done. Sure they've got deeper pockets than we have but Roman knows he can't compete with Qatari money and is looking at a far more balanced spending model now. Poch would still well behind the pulling power of the Manchester clubs there
Poch has already ruled etrernally ruled out the Barcelona job - a considerably bigger/better one than Chelsea - because he managed Espanyol over 5 years ago now. How likely that he switches from Spurs to bitter rivals Chelsea in the same summer.
And finally, the days of Chelsea's big spending are done. Sure they've got deeper pockets than we have but Roman knows he can't compete with Qatari money and is looking at a far more balanced spending model now. Poch would still well behind the pulling power of the Manchester clubs there
Good grief ... this tired old excuse has been trotted out for each and every one of the last three seasons.
2015-16: "It's only because United and Chelsea underperformed"
2016-17: "It's only because United and Arsenal underperformed"
2017-18: "Spurs got lucky this year with Chelsea and Arsenal being so off the pace"
Sooner or later some folk on here will start to acknowledge that Spurs finishing in the top 3 for each of the last 3 seasons is (a) not a fluke; (b) not because other teams "under-performed"; and (c) not because Spurs "over-performed".
The league table never lies .... except when it comes to "lucky" Spurs apparently.
Back to Chelsea and Pochettino: quite apart from EL football, I strongly doubt he'd want a seat on the managerial merry-go-round at Chelsea, nor to join a club that will soon have to play two (or maybe even three) seasons away from home (not just one, like Spurs) whilst their new stadium is built.
I dont see it either tbh, I think it's more a step sideways than upwards. Chelsea is the very definition of managerial merry go round.
Spurs are in the CL, moving into the new stadium which im sure was part of 'the project' when he signed on. Stay on, win something or a couple of things with Spurs, then lets talk big clubs like the RM's and Juventus' a real step up to European elite.
He's the manager? What's he going to do, bench him and hire another one?
Just refuse to release him from his contract.
Chelsea? Patient?
We hear this every year, Spurs got lucky because other teams did poorly. Do you realise how ridiculous that is? It makes no sense. Spurs have finished 3rd, 2nd, 3rd the last three seasons. Have they only done that because other teams are crap? Give me a break. Spurs have been consistently excellent in the league under Poch. Start giving the side and manager credit rather than making rubbish excuses. I suppose United only finished 2nd because other teams were crap, you got so lucky....see how stupid that sounds?
Mate it's never happening in a million years. I mean seriously, Poch - Spurs manager leaving to go to Chelsea?
Southampton to Spurs is a bigger step up than Spurs to United thank you very much. You only have to look at the league table the past 5 - 10 years to make that logical conclusion.
By the way, Spurs will spend big this summer. Bar the Manchester clubs, Spurs will be going for top quality talent and will spend ALOT of money.
They're in a pretty dire state and playing out of CL next season, with a shite squad. Roman is also not willing to spend much so I think he'll be a little bit patient on the next manager as long as he secures top 4.
He's a top manager around and the next manager to get a move to a top team, the only obstacle is Levy and his contract at Spurs. Doubt he would go to Chelsea, they are not an elite club anymore, They have more money but maybe not enough to take him out of Spurs and they play Europa League. I think Poch will end up in Real, Barca or United if we are any sensible to at least try for him. He plays entertaining football with some good and some average players, now ending in TOP4 regularly for few years, he promotes a lot of young players and can paly with them in a distinguishe style, none of his players are underperforming, seems to raise every player's game, we are all lacking in that, except we have the winner. NOW there will be the argument of not winning anything, he's got more managerial experience than Guardiola, Tito Villanova, Zidane and others before they got their first top job, so I think he will eventually start winning the trophies, with better players and budget and a bit of luck he would have been there..
But move to Chelsea would be a sideways move, stay in Spurs and move to United next year, McKenna and Carrick as assisstents, I think that would work.. ratehr than getting another "old guaranteed success of a manager".
But move to Chelsea would be a sideways move, stay in Spurs and move to United next year, McKenna and Carrick as assisstents, I think that would work.. ratehr than getting another "old guaranteed success of a manager".
Haha you wrote Ibrimovich meaning Abramovich and I just changed it to Ibrahimovic jokingly.
And not many would get in Spurs starting 11, I was just pointing out that Conte was backed financially. They just invested the money badly.
I dont doubt, there will be quite a few outs at Spurs id imagine, Alderweireld, Rose, N'Koudou, Onomah, Janssen, Sissoko, so what around 110 mil? Thats a decent start for Pochettino to do some xfer business.
Problem is, this is a short summer particularly due to the World Cup. So they have to sell all those players and then start buying giving their competitors a head start. Can’t see Liverpool or Chelsea messing about.
True but Pochettino is short CB's, they cannot go into a season competing on 4 fronts with Vertonghen, Sanchez, Foyth and Dier. Sanchez is young but did well for a 21 y/o in his first season, Foyth has barely played and Dier is a utility player who can play CB in a pinch.
They may move for a young up and comer like De Ligt from Ajax who fits the Pochettino profile. And id imagine an established premier league CB like a Mawson, provided he recovers in time, or Tarkowski. Who could do a job for them as squad rotation players.
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