A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

I love him - I think he is a fantastic manager and the best I've seen at Spurs in decades but he is lacking a true win at all costs mentality - the mentality that gets Jose those wins. Whether he can develop than I don't know but I really hope he can and I really hope he does it with Spurs.
 
Had no answer when United went 2-1 up. The same thing happened in the Champions League against Juventus.

He needs to win something soon or his moment with this group of players will have passed. How often does a player like Kane come along?
 
Had no answer when United went 2-1 up. The same thing happened in the Champions League against Juventus.

He needs to win something soon or his moment with this group of players will have passed. How often does a player like Kane come along?
This. Next season without a trophy and he'll leave or his best players. Or both. Kane is Madrid bound next summer imo.
 
Him and spurs are a match made in heaven. The almost coach and the almost club.
 
Pochettino sends his teams out to be aggressive in the first 60 minutes and tail off towards the end. Yet Mourinho, who manages the game better and doesn't want us to press like madmen, gets criticised. The same thing happened to Spurs in their second game against Juve: they stopped pressing and immediately conceded 2 goals.

Exactly. Allegri and Mourinho both just have more experience in how to run the games and divide it into several transitions, not just pressing early and end up by the end of the game have nothing more to do.
 
He said prematch that this wasn't an important game for Spurs' overall development. Yes I know he was telling lies to play it down and keep his players calm etc but coming out with things like that just sounds weak and pathetic. I certainly would not want to hear a United manager say anything like that as every semifinal is extremely important and a privilege to be part of.

Spurs need to win something/anything more than almost every club.
 
I do enjoy the way his team players at times but you have to think he should be doing better with his players he has.

Dembele, Eriksen, Kane, Vertonghen, Alderweireld & Lorris walk into nearly every team in Europe.
 
Had no answer when United went 2-1 up. The same thing happened in the Champions League against Juventus.

He needs to win something soon or his moment with this group of players will have passed. How often does a player like Kane come along?

The same thing has happened in a lot of big games Spurs have had under him. Just look at the FA Cup semi final last season.

After we came back into it Spurs shrank, once we went ahead I never really felt they'd score. We were comfortable and none of his changes effected the game. Even had the ref played to 100 minutes we still looked good value to win.

Until Pochettino can demonstrate that he can change big games that are going against him I'll remain unconvinced. Yes Spurs play lovely football at times. So did Newcastle two decades back. I wouldn't have wanted Keegan in charge of my team.
 
He was too slow taking Son off who was having a fairly average game imo.

Think they need to address their LB position as well because Davies is pretty damn average for a club trying to win trophies. They had very little width at times which used to be a strength of theirs with Rose and Walker.
 
Poch is a good manager, but he lacks that little bit of big-game cynicism that other coaches have, not to mention the ability to grind out wins before his teams hit the post-Christmas surge.
 
The same doubts remain. Too many losses when it really matters. He is doing a good job, but not the one that makes you think he will have it easy stepping to the next level.

The man also does have some class compared to that absolute clown managing Liverpool, so he is not so bad in my book.
 
Yet again, we don't need to update Poch's Wikipedia managerial "Honours" page?


Based on the above, using logic, we have this...

Just a question, can we sign him if he's under contract?

Fire a serial winner and hire a man who has never won a trophy.
We previously hired a man who never won a trophy, in 2013 and that was an absolute disaster. So, hopefully, Woodward understands more about football than some on here and sticks with Jose for the foreseeable future.
Poch is currently at the correct club for him. If he ever wins a trophy, then he should certainly look to move to a better club, but until then, he should stick with Spurs.
 
The same doubts remain. Too many losses when it really matters. He is doing a good job, but not the one that makes you think he will have it easy stepping to the next level.

The man also does have some class compared to that absolute clown managing Liverpool, so he is not so bad in my book.

Class doesn't win you games, mate.
The main quality needed from a manager and player at MUFC, is the ability to win matches/trophies.
Herrera has no class, but he is my favourite players. Why? Because he knows how to win and is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done.
If I had a choice between Klopp or Poch - I'd go Klopp. Neither of them will win any trophies, but I prefer Klopp's brand of gung-ho football.
 
Class doesn't win you games, mate.
The main quality needed from a manager and player at MUFC, is the ability to win matches/trophies.
Herrera has no class, but he is my favourite players. Why? Because he knows how to win and is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done.
If I had a choice between Klopp or Poch - I'd go Klopp. Neither of them will win any trophies, but I prefer Klopp's brand of gung-ho football.

Klopp actually built a fantastic Dortmund team, that retained the bundesliga and won a cup.

A far better manager than Pochettino.
 
Class doesn't win you games, mate.
The main quality needed from a manager and player at MUFC, is the ability to win matches/trophies.
Herrera has no class, but he is my favourite players. Why? Because he knows how to win and is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done.
If I had a choice between Klopp or Poch - I'd go Klopp. Neither of them will win any trophies, but I prefer Klopp's brand of gung-ho football.

The comment doesn't have absolutely anything with managing United, mate, so I don't know why you even went on that route.
 
He was too slow taking Son off who was having a fairly average game imo.

Think they need to address their LB position as well because Davies is pretty damn average for a club trying to win trophies. They had very little width at times which used to be a strength of theirs with Rose and Walker.
Mate we’ve got Young at left back. It’s nothing to do with playing staff. It’s mentality and tactics.
 
Gets his team playing nice football, but doesn't seem tactically astute. When something goes wrong in the middle of a big game, he rarely manages to adjust appropriately or quickly enough.
 
Klopp actually built a fantastic Dortmund team, that retained the bundesliga and won a cup.

A far better manager than Pochettino.

Also reached CL final. Even though Klopp is a real cnut, his period with BVB was phenomenal from all perspectives, not just play style only as Poch. He did won leagues, cups and reached CL final.
 
I really rate him but his pre match comments were really odd.
 
His teams don't have the grit and determination to turn around a big match. The way they lost today and against Juventus, without even putting up a fight after going behind, doesn't bode well. I don't really see his lack of trophies as a big issue. But, as long as he is not delivering when it truly matters, I'll have my doubts about him as a potential managerial candidate for a top club.
 
I really rate him but his pre match comments were really odd.

It's his standard answer before League cup and FA cup, it's odd for a coach to downplay any trophies, even more so for a coach who haven't won anything.
 
Pochettino didn't seem to have any answer to the tactics being used by Jose in today's FA Cup SF.
When it went to 1-1, Poch was completely out of ideas.
He has one way of playing and when that Plan A does not work, he shrugs his shoulders, scratches his head and watches as the clock goes to 90. He did exactly the same thing against Juve.
Tactically, he just isn't very good and has a lot to learn.
 
He isn't going to get sacked so why is he bringing that up?

He isn't going to get sacked, but perhaps for the first time he's considering his own future. Realistically, are Spurs going to get any closer to winning the league, given the ascendancy of City, United and Liverpool? And they have a ceiling in Europe too. I wonder whether he fancies a new challenge elsewhere, with more resources at his disposal.
 
His attitude towards winning things is weird, even if you want to pull away pressure from your squad. I am not sure can he enforce his ways on squad filled with stars, players who won more then him etc. He can do that on young players because its easier to convince them to believe in what you are trying to do.
 
He isn't going to get sacked so why is he bringing that up?

Because he’s getting frustrated at spurs and wondering if he can actually take them where he wants to. Builds a team, loses a player or two and knows it’s going to happen again. That’s not progress squad wise.
 
He is, until he wins a trophy, just a charlatan. I mean, come on, its' all well and good to say he spent little to no money to assemble a solid team, but the thing is, once you have assembled the solid team, you have the resources to win domestic cups, don't you? His approach to the FA Cup, being defensive by saying "its not important" and now his post-match comments all seem really bad in terms of mentality and motivation.

Jardim has won a league. Tuchel won a German cup and competed fairly well against a machine like Bayern side. Pochettino does not belong even in the Tier 2 managers like these two. Tier 3 until he wins a trophy, which is quite possible with clubs the size of Southampton or Tottenham (will give Espanyol a pass).

As twitter pointed out, David fecking Moyes has won more trophies than him -- a community shield with us, half a trophy there.:lol:
 
They're clearly a very good footballing side, but Spurs are such big bottlers. Heard before the game they've lost their last 7 FA Cup semi finals.

Poch has done a good job, but he needs to do it when it counts.
 
I do enjoy the way his team players at times but you have to think he should be doing better with his players he has.

Dembele, Eriksen, Kane, Vertonghen, Alderweireld & Lorris walk into nearly every team in Europe.

Agree with many comments on here about his deficiencies but in fairness, a number of these players he’s developed and weren’t the players they are prior to him joining.