90's Serie A - Draft Thread

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So if I win, I get Baggio?

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I meant whoever beats the best loser before he faces you. You will get the players from the best loser. Same like last round, where Brwned beat the best loser (Stertford Kid), and got to pick from the incomplete team of Red Head Red, and Baconlars later picked from Stretford kid when he defeated him.
 
I meant whoever beats the best loser before he faces you. You will get the players from the best loser. Same like last round, where Brwned beat the best loser (Stertford Kid), and got to pick from the incomplete team of Red Head Red, and Baconlars later picked from Stretford kid when he defeated him.

Ah, I know, man. I was only joking.

Facing the best loser is an unenviable position really as there will surely be a very close game in this round where there's only one vote in it, and thus, the opponent will be strong whomever it may be.
 
I have PMd my team to Aldo, I will post tactics etc in the match thread so ready to start whenver Brwned is..
 
Just post it in this thread and we'll start right away.
 
Donadoni and Zanetti on the same wing = Yummy!!

Was Enzo able to play left wing? Because if you'd play Zidane AM it would make your team perfect.

They'll interchange at will but Zidane is more adept at coming in from the left IMO, though Enzo played there numerous times too. With the wing backs I have I think they'll manage to find themselves in te areas they want to be in and affect the game the most.

I have serious firepower on the bench with Inzaghi, Asprilla and Fonseca all itching to get on.
 
As you are, Aldo. When do I need to post mine? There's still about 4 hrs left on the Brwned vs Fergus'son.
 
Alright, folks. Here's mine:

Team ISOTOPE

GOALKEEPER
Giovanni Galli: Main goalkeeper during Milan success in the late 80's, this experience goalkeeper continued to be a regular starter in top division until 1994.

DEFENCE
Jurgen Kohler: A World Cup and European Cup-winning centre back. He widely considered as one of the finest stoppers or man’s marker ever in history of the game. A legendary German defender with 105 caps to his name.

Paolo Maldini: One of the all-time greatest defenders. He was voted in top ten Ballon D’or's in 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2005. Maldini was finished 10th in UEFA Jubilee Poll as the best European footballer in last 50 years. He is a modern defender with considerable technique and vision, solid defensively, quick and with excellent recuperation skills.

Vincent Candela: A World Cup and European Championship-winning France left-back. Capped 40 times for the national team, he relied a lot on his remarkable technique and dribbling accuracy when going forward.

Moreno Mannini: A League winner and Champions League runner-up right-back, he played 510 games in 15 years in top flight football for Sampdoria almost always as a starter. He was a very good marker, very fast and solid.


MIDFIELD – ATTACK
Ruud Gullit: Two times World Player of the Year, European Footballer of the Year, and Ballon d'Or winners is the epitome of Total Football ethos. George Best comment about him: ".. great player by any standards… By my reckoning that's what makes him an even better player than Maradona… You just can't knock them off the ball. It was the same with Pelé, Beckenbauer and Cruijff."

Gianfranco Zola: Nicknamed Marazola, many Italian considers him as the 2nd best no.10 Italy ever had. Started to reach his prime at Parma where he scored 19 league goals in two consecutive seasons. Other than producing some magical free-kicks, his vision and eye for a pass were truly brilliant.

Rudi Völler: Legendary German forward, featured in 4 World Cups, capped 90 times while scoring 47 goals for Germany. Started the 90/91 season on the back of winning FIFA World Cup 1990 (made Team of the Tournament), he lead AS Roma to win Coppa Italia and UEFA Cup runner up in 1991. Proven performer at the absolute highest level, his experience would be invaluable to his team.

Sérgio Conceição: A winger with 56 caps and 12 goals for Portugal. He’s known for his speed and strength, combined with his direct dribbling and crossing skills that give many assists to teammates, and accurate shooting. During the late 90's, he won a League title, UEFA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, Italian Supercup, and Italian Cup with Lazio.

Dunga: A World Cup-winning Brazil defensive midfielder with 91 caps to his name. A leader with outstanding stamina to dominate the game, and excellent distributor of the ball. Capable of pinpoint long pass that was a great tool to change the speed of the game with .

Demetrio Albertini: The Metronome, the lynchpin behind AC Milan and Italy 90’s successes. With AC Milan he won the European Cup (1994), 1 European Super Cup (1995), 5 Italian leagues (1992, 1993, 1994, 1996 and 1999) and 3 Italian Super Cups (1992, 1993 and 1994). With the Italian national side, he was runner-up at the 1994 World Cup and the 2000 European Championship. He has represented the 'Azzuri' on 79 occasions.

SUB
Mark Iuliano: Regular for Italy national football team in UEFA Euro 2000 and FIFA World Cup 2002. A strong defender aided with great height and is an accomplished man-marker. During the 90’s era alone, he had 2 League titles, while reaching 2 Champions League Finals with Juventus.

Wim Jonk: One of the best midfielders for the Dutch team in 1994 and 1998 World Cups. His pin-point passing, outstanding vision, and combative and hard-working style made him a capable defensive midfielder.

Paulo Sérgio Silvestre do Nascimento: A Brazilian winger/forward that formed an effective striking partnership with youngster Francesco Totti and Marco Delvecchio at AS Roma, scoring 22 goals in 57 league appearances. A good dribbler even at top speed, he would be a decent impact player to come off the bench.
 
Updating my player information and tactics for tonight's game.

Starting Eleven

Francesco Toldo - Size (6'5"), reflexes, handling, command of area. This guy had everything required to be a top class goalkeeper. He played for the good Fiorentina squad in all the seasons they spent in the Serie A during the 90s. Besides being a top quality goalkeeper of this era, Toldo had consistency and longevity. 32 league games was his lowest total of games throughout all his seasons for Fiorentina, in a time when the league was 34 games in total. Infact, from the 93/94 season which got Fiorentina promoted and throughout the decade, Toldo only missed 3(!) league matches!

Italy being blessed in the goalkeeping department in the 90s hindered this guy getting more appearances. But when he got his chance he performed. When Buffon got injured pre Euro 2000, Toldo got the starting role. He performed exceptionally throughout the tournament and was elected in the tournaments All Star team.

Moreno Torricelli - Moreno was adept at all roles in defense, but he excelled at right back. In my opinion, he is one of the very best right backs available in this draft. He was mainstay in the Juventus starting 11 in his time there ('92-'98) and recorded over 150 appearances. He transferred to Fiorentina in '98 and was brilliant there aswell. This player possessed a lot of grit, heart and determination, and could bomb down the wing delivering good crosses aswell.

Torricelli has won pretty much every club competition there was in the 90s (excluding the Cup Winners Cup) and he appeared for Italy in the '96 Euros and the '98 World Cup.

Aldair - Aldair is a Roma legend due to his fantastic ability as a centre back and his longevity and consistency for the club. He played for Roma from '90-'03 and recorded 415 appearances for the club. Roma retired his no. 6 jersey when he left the club, a feat he alone has accomplished for the club. Aldair was simply a complete defender. He also was undisputed first choice for Brazil throughout the whole decade, including the World Cup winning team of '94, picking up 80 caps for them.

Antônio Carlos Zago - A fantastic centre half who played for Roma in the later 90s. A.C. Zago formed a rock solid defensive partnership with Aldair and was simply known to the Roma supporters as 'Terminator'. This guy was a no-nonsense defender who possessed great tactical ability and was very good at reading the game. He collected 37 caps for Brazil, the majority in his time at Roma when he was at the top of his career.

Amedeo Carboni - This brilliant left back was the undisputed starter for AS Roma throughout his 7 year period there in the 90s. He amassed 186 league appearances for the capitol club during that time. Carboni was an excellent defender in addition to being able to bomb forward and deliver accurate crosses. He collected 17 caps for Italy, all of which were during his time at Roma, and was a starter in the '96 Euros under Sacchi.

Lothar Matthäus - This guy doesn't need much introduction. But I think I need to perhaps justify him a bit in this draft. Some of you have been a bit critical of Lothar, which I find a tad unfair. The man described by Maradona as 'the best rival I've ever had' didn't exactly have lackluster seasons for Inter Milan in his time there during the 90s. He scored a RIDICULOUS 16 goals in 31 league games in only the 90/91 season from central midfield. Some of you have also suggested that his personal accolades, even the ones from his time at Inter, as void. I am especially referring to Matthäus winning the FIFA World Player of the Year after the '90 World Cup. While it is true that a lot of this comes down to his performance in the WC, it would be ridiculous to deny his ability from this. Zidane wouldn't have won the same award after WC '98 if it hadn't been for his performances there. Anyways, I won't rant on longer for poor Lothar. Everyone knows what he is capable of, both as a box-to-box midfielder and as a sweeper.

Edgar Davids - When this guy wasn't doing steroids, he was the best thing since sliced bread. Lippi famously called him 'my one man engine room'; alongside Matthäus there will be no shortage of horse power. Davids enjoyed great success at Juve in a team which was regarded as perhaps Europe's best at the time, atleast by Gary Neville. He wasn't bad for his country either, being selected in the Team of the Tournament in both World Cup '98 and Euro 2000. Both feats that were a testament to his ability and determination as a central midfielder.

Giuseppe Giannini - Giannini is a Roma legend who spent 16 seasons for the club from '82-'96. He was regarded as the supporters club symbol before Totti emerged as the heir to his crown. Giannini was a classy, creative central midfielder with the ability to create chances out of anything. He had amazing passing ability aswell as a fantastic understanding for the game but he could also chip in with a few goals on his own. 'Il Principe', as he was known, played over 400 games for Roma, including over 150 league appearances for the club in the 90s. He collected 47 caps for Italy. This guy, is a legend.

Dejan Savicevic - Savicevic is regarded by most people as one of the most techincally gifted and talented players that played in the Serie A throughout the 90s. He was a very versatile player who could play behind the strikers or on both wings. Savicevic was capable of the magical, and could produce goals for himself and his teammates out of nothing, often from a scintillating run with the ball at his feet.

Milan bought him before the 90/91 season for a fee around 9.4 million, at a time when the world record fee was 10 million. He had some troubles in his early days for Milan due to being a Berlusconi purchase rather than a Capello one, but when he got to prove himself he shone. He was the runner-up for the Ballon d'Or in '91.

Gianluca Vialli - Vialli is perhaps best known to a lot of us newbies from his days in Chelsea, both as a player and manager, but he was banging them in for Sampdoria and Juventus during his glory days in the 90s. Pairing up with his childhood friend Mancini, they were simply known as the Goal Twins (despite having varying manes), for Sampdoria before he was sold for a world record transfer fee of 12.5 million to Juventus in '92. He was a fantastic striker, with a special eye for the spectacular. Vialli featured for Italy 59 times, but he would have featured a lot more had he not fallen out with manager Arrigio Sacchi in the '94 World Cup. After that, Vialli famously declared he would support Brazil in that tournament.

Enrico Chiesa - Chiesa is one of only few strikers to score over 20 league goals in a season during the 90s. Despite being a bit of a journeyman, Chiesa banged them in for all the clubs he played for in the Serie A. He scored consistentl at Sampdoria, Cremonese, Modena, another spell at Sampdoria, Parma and FIorentina. He is perhaps best known for his spell at Parma, which was his longest one-club stay during the decade from '96-'99 where he formed a formidable strike partnership with Crespo. It was at Parma he became known as one of the best Italian strikers at the time. He featured for Italy 22 times scoring 7 goals.


On The Bench

Júlio César da Silva - No, I am not playing the QPR goalie as a centre half. Júlio César played for Juventus from '90-'94, from he was 26 until he was 31. In addition to fantastic physical and defensive abilities, he was a very good overall footballer. He possessed attacking talent aswell, and was often instigating attacks either by clever passing or by carrying the ball forward. This guy was widely considered as one of Brazil's best defenders in the early 90s and late 80s. In his first World Cup ('86), at the tender age of 23 he received the award for "Best Central Defender" for the tournament.

Luigi di Biagio - In addition to being the most fearsome looking player in this tournament, this guy was a warrior on the pitch. He was the engine room of the inspiring Foggia side of the early 90s before he went to Roma in '95 were he collected 126 appearances before transferring to Inter Milan in '99. di Biagio had everything you'd want in a midfielder. He collected 31 caps for Italy and featured in World Cups 1998 and 2002, aswell as in Euro 2000. He was a key member in the '98 WC where he started every match for Italy.

Tomas Locatelli - Locatelli was a versatile midfielder who has featured over 200 times in the Serie A. He could play both in the middle of the park or as a left winger. He was most prolific in the 90s during his spell for Udinese, where he featured 93 times. Locatelli featured twice for Italy in the 99/00 season.

Formation
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I will feature in a 4-3-1-2 formation. Width will be provided by my brilliant fullbacks, aswell as the roaming Savicevic who employs a free-role allowing him to wreak havoc on my opposition's defense.

My team is very well balanced, with players that have complementary styles both in defence, midfield and attack. In addition, with versatile players, such as Matthäus and Savicevic, I can easily deploy various formations if the situation will need it. Such as the 3-5-2, 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or a 4-1-2-1-2.

Because most of tactics involves how you will play to exploit/stop a specific opponent, will I write a matchup report in my match thread when it is created and I know who my opposition is. (Alike to some of the posts I've made in other match threads)

Familiarites

  • The brazilian centre back pairing of Zago and Aldair will be able to communicate well and function superbly as a unit. Zago played together with Aldair in his entire Roma career.
  • Toldo and Torricelli played together in Fiorentina.
  • Giannini(82-96), Aldair ('90-'03), di Biagio(95-99), Carboni(90-97) and Zago(97/98-02) all played together at Roma. (Zago and Giannini times didn't overlap).
  • Júlio César, Torricelli and Vialli played together at Juventus. Torricelli and Davids also played a season together there.
  • Chiesa was a young player at Sampdoria when Vialli was at his prime there, perhaps Vialli tutored Chiesa? :rolleyes:
 
Question. Since I'm looking like going through, what do you all think about picking Matthaus and using him in the back 4 alongside Costacurta? Or would it be a waste not having him in midfield? Being one of the best box-to-box players ever, I feel he should play more advanced yet maybe he'd be more of an improvement over Chamot than he would say Jugovic?

I believe he played at the back in the '86 world cup marking Maradona? Diego called him his toughest opponent saying: "he is the best rival I've ever had. I guess that's enough to define him"
 
I had the same dilemma with him aswell, thisistheone. I think no-one will deny his ability to play there, but he is perhaps best suited as a sweeper/roaming defender in a 5 back line. I decided to play him in midfield mainly due to his excellent goalscoring record for Inter. But like you, I'm very interested in hearing of what others think of him as a CB in a back line of 4.
 
Question. Since I'm looking like going through, what do you all think about picking Matthaus and using him in the back 4 alongside Costacurta? Or would it be a waste not having him in midfield? Being one of the best box-to-box players ever, I feel he should play more advanced yet maybe he'd be more of an improvement over Chamot than he would say Jugovic?

I believe he played at the back in the '86 world cup marking Maradona? Diego called him his toughest opponent saying: "he is the best rival I've ever had. I guess that's enough to define him"

I'd take Matthaus and Savicevic, the latter will win you more votes than Lentini. If not then take Aldair.

I'd stick with Matthaus in the centre, with him and Rijkaard there would be no CMs out there that could get the better of them, they would be perfectly fitting in an all time draft winning team IMO.
 
Interesting Fergus'son. Didn't really consider Savicevic, wonderful player that he was. Maybe it would be wise to remove Lentini, who's not getting much love at all. Play Dejan who is more versatile behind Batistuta?

I rate Aldair very highly Bacon, just toyed with the idea of Matthaus at the back instead. Even though Lother played for Inter in midfield, would he be looked upon as a better centre half than Aldair? I'm favouring Matthaus in midfield though, for the reasons Fergus'son makes.
 
Interesting Fergus'son. Didn't really consider Savicevic, wonderful player that he was. Maybe it would be wise to remove Lentini, who's not getting much love at all. Play Dejan who is more versatile behind Batistuta?

I rate Aldair very highly Bacon, just toyed with the idea of Matthaus at the back instead. Even though Lother played for Inter in midfield, would he be looked upon as a better centre half than Aldair? I'm favouring Matthaus in midfield though, for the reasons Fergus'son makes.

Put Savicevic on the inside right, with Jugovic on the opposite side and the formidable Veron, Mattahus and Rijkaard in the middle.
 
So something like this?

--------Batistuta
Jugovic-----------Savecevic
--Veron-Matthaus-Rijkaard

Who do I play in the next round? I'll need to consider that as well.
 
So something like this?

--------Batistuta
Jugovic-----------Savecevic
--Veron-Matthaus-Rijkaard

Who do I play in the next round? I'll need to consider that as well.

Yeah, like that but I'd put Veron as an AM, as that's what he used to play in Italy. They you would have Kilinsmann as a great option off the bench and Oliviera who could come on as a wide player if you're chasing the game.

Looks like you will play either Nahelai or Aldo, if I had to put money on it I'd say Nahelai.
 
Aldair is a better centre back than Matthaus, if you want to play him as a sweeper/man-marker as he was against Maradona then he's the better option. I'd go for Aldair and Matthaus personally.

I've decided on this team:

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Plenty to ponder ahead of the next round then.

Brwned, I'm glad I'm not playing you! Del Piero, Rui Costa, Zidane, V.Basten...
 
Brwned is gonna sweep this one I believe. That attack with Blanc, Cannavaro and Thuram in defense.

Also, if the current game is almost done with a big margin with a couple of hours to go, could I start the next game earlier than usual? The last 3 games have been started very late in the day and could hamper the total outcome of votes,
 
:lol: fecking hell, guys. I was just messing up. I do also think that Brwned's team is class. But my team has this small time mentality. Only playing great against better team, and play shit against minnows. That sums up my recent wins.
 
Also, in balance that I can only pick players from a first round team (Fergie's Gum), I should be able to pick three, instead of two, players. Justice for Isotope!
 
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