You are getting Baggio, instead of settling with Salas and you want three? Cmon 
90's Serie A - Draft Thread
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He is, isn't he! I forgot about that. Baggio gives you a much better chance.
You are getting Baggio, instead of settling with Salas and you want three? Cmon
I know it's hard to believe, but the answer is Yes! it's only fair if you see what I'm gonna up against.
I'll swap him for Vieri/Batistuta.
Punishment for not winning your game convincingly!
Aldo made me believe that it's better to win that way. Go spank him!I sensed a conspiracy! Sporting values have gone out of the window these days!
You can't complain about Baggio though, best striker in the draft.
You can't complain about Baggio though, best striker in the draft.
Weren't you starting the next match early, Aldo?
Alright. Coming up.
1. Tell that to QPR. The bastards.
2. I'm not complaining about him (who could?). It's just not much to choose for the 2nd pick from Fergie's Gum team.
Baggio is a massive improvement on Voller and you need his keeper, Pagliuca, who is arguably the best keeper in the draft.
Cmon Isotope. You got Maldini and Albertini, while I got Boban and Salas. If anyone needs justice, it's me.
So eventually I will, sorry, could have a backline of Maldini-Cannavaro-Blanc-Thuram...
I think I'd go with Dunga over Pagliuca just to prove a point. "Worst keeper in the draft" - champion.
I think I'd go with Dunga over Pagliuca just to prove a point. "Worst keeper in the draft" - champion.
I forgot that nahealai hasn't turned up yet. So I should wait for him to submit his write up before starting the game.
I think my Gk is better than Brwned. I'm trying to figure out if I should pick Djorkaeff, or Tassotti?
Cmon Isotope. You got Maldini and Albertini, while I got Boban and Salas. If anyone needs justice, it's me.
Bah! if you pass this round, you'll have Signori and world-class CB to choose from, that's exactly what you need. Now I feel that you'd get a better deal.So eventually I will, sorry, could have a backline of Maldini-Cannavaro-Blanc-Thuram...
I think I'd go with Dunga over Pagliuca just to prove a point. "Worst keeper in the draft" - champion.
With that backline, your Gk could bring a hammock, tie it up between the goalposts, and sleep on it.
Tassotti every day of the week, with the Galli-Maldini(-Albertini-Gullit) link-up you have to have him in there.
Tassoti surely.
Till the time nahealai arrives, can you guys suggest me which set up would be best against him? These are my options :
Against this team :
There is the option of playing Seedorf for Stankovic in those teams, but I feel Stankovic offers more surety defensively and a young Seedorf is better to come off the bench. Or Caniggia can come and inject pace while chasing a game.
Till the time nahealai arrives, can you guys suggest me which set up would be best against him? These are my options :
Against this team :
There is the option of playing Seedorf for Stankovic in those teams, but I feel Stankovic offers more surety defensively and a young Seedorf is better to come off the bench. Or Caniggia can come and inject pace while chasing a game.
Apologies gents, I'll post my team and tactics here within half an hour.
Looking forward to a duel with Aldo, should be a good one.
Have to pick Tassoti over Djorkaeff.
Such a downer
Such a downer
Have to pick Tassoti over Djorkaeff.
Such a downer
Your midfield is strong already. Tassoti would improve your defense a lot.
Have you posted your line-up yet, Aldo?
Tassoti surely.
Till the time nahealai arrives, can you guys suggest me which set up would be best against him? These are my options :
Against this team :
There is the option of playing Seedorf for Stankovic in those teams, but I feel Stankovic offers more surety defensively and a young Seedorf is better to come off the bench. Or Caniggia can come and inject pace while chasing a game.
I think your light blue lineup looks the strongest, Aldo.
Aldo, because of Fortunato and Petrescu's attacking presence I think you'd have to go for the 3rd (blue) one. Your fullbacks are strong enough defensively to take them on 1v1 but leaving them with too much space is a recipe for disaster. Boban and Stankovic could certainly pull out wide to take them on but then that makes the diamond redundant.
I am still deciding it Nahealai. Do you want me to finalize it before you proceed with your write up?
Below is my flexible 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 formation:
Reserves: Massimo Crippa (DM), Alberigo Evani (LM) and Marco Simone (RM/RW/ST).
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Just a few points regarding my team and selection...
Familiarity:
With four of my back six having a common denominator in Peruzzi, and a further two in Deschamps and Conte the middle of the field playing with them also, I think this strengthens the backbone of my team greatly. Balbo and Crippa were the only ones who haven’t played with any other member of my squad at any stage of their club careers (although, Crippa played with many of my squad with the Italian national team).
Peruzzi, Baresi, Fortunato, Conte, Mancini, Signori, Crippa, Evani and Simone all played together in the national team at various points.
Goalscoring:
My front three scored 482 Serie A goals in their cumulative careers. Marco Simone, one of my reserves, scored a further 57 goals in Italy's premier division, bringing my total attack to over 500 career top-flight goals. Very few people in the draft, if any, have that at their disposal.
Leadership:
Peruzzi, Tudor, Baresi, Montero, Deschamps, Conte and Mancini are all viable and exceptional choices for the captaincy. Having these leaders on the field of play is a great asset and these players form the backbone of my team.
Playing Style/Tactics:
A flexible 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 wing-back system
Opposing Team:
Reserves: Massimo Crippa (DM), Alberigo Evani (LM) and Marco Simone (RM/RW/ST).
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Just a few points regarding my team and selection...
Familiarity:
- Peruzzi, Tudor, Montero, Deschamps and Conte were all Juventus teammates, as well as Peruzzi playing with Fortunato at Juventus earlier in the decade.
- Petrescu and Signori were teammates at Foggia
- Signori and Mancini played together at Lazio, albeit briefly.
- Baresi, Simone and Evani played together at Milan during their glory years.
With four of my back six having a common denominator in Peruzzi, and a further two in Deschamps and Conte the middle of the field playing with them also, I think this strengthens the backbone of my team greatly. Balbo and Crippa were the only ones who haven’t played with any other member of my squad at any stage of their club careers (although, Crippa played with many of my squad with the Italian national team).
Peruzzi, Baresi, Fortunato, Conte, Mancini, Signori, Crippa, Evani and Simone all played together in the national team at various points.
Goalscoring:
My front three scored 482 Serie A goals in their cumulative careers. Marco Simone, one of my reserves, scored a further 57 goals in Italy's premier division, bringing my total attack to over 500 career top-flight goals. Very few people in the draft, if any, have that at their disposal.
Leadership:
Peruzzi, Tudor, Baresi, Montero, Deschamps, Conte and Mancini are all viable and exceptional choices for the captaincy. Having these leaders on the field of play is a great asset and these players form the backbone of my team.
Playing Style/Tactics:
A flexible 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 wing-back system
- Solid defensively with the five defenders playing in their customary positions. The onus is on Fortunato and Petrescu to play their natural attacking wing-back games, supporting and giving width to the midfielders in front of them.
- Deschamps is expected to play between the halfway line and his own penalty area. His role is to break down opposition attacks and give the ball to Conte and Mancini, and his wing-backs to start counter-attacks.
- Conte has an important role in helping Deschamps with defensive duties, but to be much more expansive in attacking situations. Conte can 'double up' with Deschamps as an extra defensive midfielder when the needs arise and both of them are well-versed with each others' games and styles.
- Mancini is expected to be the pivotal link between midfield and attack, and to exploit the gaps between the opposition's midfield and defence. His vision, ball-carrying abilities and eye for goal will be a great asset in this area of the field.
- Signori and Balbo have only one directive: put the ball in the net. And there weren't many better than those two at doing just that. As previously said, not many teams in this draft can boast two 100+ career Serie A goalscorers in their sides, as well as two who scored mid-20 goals in a single season on more than one occasion each. The impish, speedy Signori will compliment the taller, goalpoacher in Balbo excellently.
Opposing Team:
- On paper, Paolo's team looks strong. The front four look particularly good. However, I would have a worry for Aldo's team that there isn't enough "out-and-out" goalscorers in his attack. All good footballers yes, but I don't think there's enough goals in them, especially against Peruzzi, Tudor, Baresi and Montero.
- I'd also be suspicious of a young Nedved and a young Seedorf being tactically aware and disciplined enough to provide cover and defence for the space behind them, that Petrescu and Fortunato will expertly exploit when given the chance.
- In Tacconi, I think it's fair to say that Aldo's 'keeper's best years were behind him, and he certainly wasn't a force in the 1990s.
- Reserves. I think I have the stronger bench to choose from in Marco Simone, a prominent member of Milan's glory side in the 1990s and Italian Footballer of the Year in 1995, Alberigo Evani, a World Cup Final goalscorer for Italy against Brazil and Massimo Crippa, who can effortlessly slot in in a defensive midfield position to add steel to my midfield if needs be.
The blue one, Aldo. Maybe switch Tacchi and Stankovic position? Fecking hell. You could get Baresi and Signori if you win this.
Nah, you're fine mate.
My line-up isn't going to change much if I'm honest. Can you post it in the general draft thread first though before our match goes live, just in case I want to make any last-minute changes?
Cheers, mate.
Go with the blue one Aldo. With him playing 3 centre halves, you only one striker, he has 2 men who become pretty redundant at the back leaving you to have extra men to control midfield.
I am also in favour of going with a 4-2-3-1. Only a couple of problems, same as last game, might be lack of goals and midfield getting overrun. Hence I was trying to incorporate both Salas and Amoroso while leaving out Seedorf. Don't you think against a solid defense like his, I need more firepower?
You got it. Will do it soon.
Franco Baresi was excellent in starting, and continuing, with counter-attacks from deep. Throw in Igor Tudor's extraordinary technical ability for a centre-back (lauded by Lippi as being more technically gifted than Marcel Desailly, and Tudor oftened played in a defensive midfield role), Aldo playing one striker allows my defence to become flexible. Montero is perfectly comfortable with man-marking Salas if Aldo decides to play him up front alone, allowing my other defenders some flexibility, which they will revel in.
Stop jinxing already.
Fine, I will start with the blue one (4-2-3-1) and see how it goes. That will certainly give me more control in midfield.
True but it's a fact that 3 at the back died away for many years because of it's lack of effectivness against teams with a lone forward who then out-numbered them in midfield. You might find youself pinned back with Mancini, Deschamps and Conte up against 5 midfielders and his excellent wing-backs pushing forward also. Having said that, this is Serie A and Italian football has always been most comfortable with a strong middle/spine and also 3 at the back.
This could prove to be a facinating tactical battle.
3-5-2 was very much en vogue in Serie A in the decade we're discussing, and even now, Conte at Juventus is utilising it to great effect. The system, when the correct personnel are incorporated, is excellent. It offers compact lines in defence and limits space to the opponent. The transition between defence and attack is also seamless, with players in ready-made positions to launch attacks, particularly the wing-backs. Pertrescu and Fortunato, both exemplary wing-backs, will be told not to be caught too far forward in order to limit the amount of times my back three will be exposed. Although with Aldo playing a lone frontman, that shouldn't be too much of a cause for concern with three differently-styled, yet complimentary, centre-backs protecting the excellent Peruzzi in goal.
I think you're over-rating your full backs slightly. Petrescu was good but not exceptional. Fortunato was supposedly as good as Maldini but sadly we never got to find out for sure. Aldo's are definitely better. I guess we should move this to the match-thread itself but what do you plan to do about being out-numbered in midfield?
I said both were exemplary wing-backs in terms of fulfilling the roles the system requires. Petrescu was a class act, assured defensively yet explosive going forward. Both wing-backs were renowned for their stamina and abilities to get up and down the field for the entirety of the game. Petrescu almost has 100 caps for his country and played in four major international tournaments in the 1990s. He's Romania's answer to Gary Neville, and see how highly Nev is regarding here.
I don't think I'm exaggerating Petrescu's capabilities at all.
Team ISOTOPE
GOALKEEPER
Giovanni Galli: Main goalkeeper during Milan success in the late 80's, this experience goalkeeper continued to be a regular starter in top division until 1994.
DEFENCE
Jurgen Kohler: A World Cup and European Cup-winning centre back. He widely considered as one of the finest stoppers or man’s marker ever in history of the game. A legendary German defender with 105 caps to his name.
Paolo Maldini: One of the all-time greatest defenders. He was voted in top ten Ballon D’or's in 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2005. Maldini was finished 10th in UEFA Jubilee Poll as the best European footballer in last 50 years. He is a modern defender with considerable technique and vision, solid defensively, quick and with excellent recuperation skills.
Vincent Candela: A World Cup and European Championship-winning France left-back. Capped 40 times for the national team, he relied a lot on his remarkable technique and dribbling accuracy when going forward.
Mauro Tassotti: A five times Serie A championships and three UEFA Champions League winners, he was the main right-back of A.C. Milan's legendary defence of the late 80's and early 90's. He was both good at attack and defence.
MIDFIELD – ATTACK
Roberto Baggio: The Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year forward, he is the only Italian player to ever to score in three World Cups. He is also one of the top 5 all-time goalscorers for the Italian National Team, in Serie A and is one of the 3 top-scoring Italians in all competitions.
Ruud Gullit: Two times World Player of the Year, European Footballer of the Year, and Ballon d'Or winners is the epitome of Total Football ethos. George Best comment about him: ".. great player by any standards… By my reckoning that's what makes him an even better player than Maradona… You just can't knock them off the ball. It was the same with Pelé, Beckenbauer and Cruijff."
Gianfranco Zola: Nicknamed Marazola, many Italian considers him as the 2nd best no.10 Italy ever had. Started to reach his prime at Parma where he scored 19 league goals in two consecutive seasons. Other than producing some magical free-kicks, his vision and eye for a pass were truly brilliant.
Wim Jonk: One of the best midfielders for the Dutch team in 1994 and 1998 World Cups. His vision, and combative - hard-working style made him a capable box to box midfielder.
Dunga: A World Cup-winning Brazil defensive midfielder with 91 caps to his name. A leader with outstanding stamina to dominate the game, and excellent distributor of the ball. Capable of pinpoint long pass that was a great tool to change the speed of the game with .
Demetrio Albertini: The Metronome, main midfielder behind AC Milan and Italy 90’s successes. With AC Milan he won the European Cup (1994), 1 European Super Cup (1995), 5 Italian leagues (1992, 1993, 1994, 1996 and 1999) and 3 Italian Super Cups (1992, 1993 and 1994). With the Italian national side, he was runner-up at the 1994 World Cup and the 2000 European Championship. He has represented the 'Azzuri' on 79 occasions.
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GOALKEEPER
Giovanni Galli: Main goalkeeper during Milan success in the late 80's, this experience goalkeeper continued to be a regular starter in top division until 1994.
DEFENCE
Jurgen Kohler: A World Cup and European Cup-winning centre back. He widely considered as one of the finest stoppers or man’s marker ever in history of the game. A legendary German defender with 105 caps to his name.
Paolo Maldini: One of the all-time greatest defenders. He was voted in top ten Ballon D’or's in 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2005. Maldini was finished 10th in UEFA Jubilee Poll as the best European footballer in last 50 years. He is a modern defender with considerable technique and vision, solid defensively, quick and with excellent recuperation skills.
Vincent Candela: A World Cup and European Championship-winning France left-back. Capped 40 times for the national team, he relied a lot on his remarkable technique and dribbling accuracy when going forward.
Mauro Tassotti: A five times Serie A championships and three UEFA Champions League winners, he was the main right-back of A.C. Milan's legendary defence of the late 80's and early 90's. He was both good at attack and defence.
MIDFIELD – ATTACK
Roberto Baggio: The Ballon d'Or and the FIFA World Player of the Year forward, he is the only Italian player to ever to score in three World Cups. He is also one of the top 5 all-time goalscorers for the Italian National Team, in Serie A and is one of the 3 top-scoring Italians in all competitions.
Ruud Gullit: Two times World Player of the Year, European Footballer of the Year, and Ballon d'Or winners is the epitome of Total Football ethos. George Best comment about him: ".. great player by any standards… By my reckoning that's what makes him an even better player than Maradona… You just can't knock them off the ball. It was the same with Pelé, Beckenbauer and Cruijff."
Gianfranco Zola: Nicknamed Marazola, many Italian considers him as the 2nd best no.10 Italy ever had. Started to reach his prime at Parma where he scored 19 league goals in two consecutive seasons. Other than producing some magical free-kicks, his vision and eye for a pass were truly brilliant.
Wim Jonk: One of the best midfielders for the Dutch team in 1994 and 1998 World Cups. His vision, and combative - hard-working style made him a capable box to box midfielder.
Dunga: A World Cup-winning Brazil defensive midfielder with 91 caps to his name. A leader with outstanding stamina to dominate the game, and excellent distributor of the ball. Capable of pinpoint long pass that was a great tool to change the speed of the game with .
Demetrio Albertini: The Metronome, main midfielder behind AC Milan and Italy 90’s successes. With AC Milan he won the European Cup (1994), 1 European Super Cup (1995), 5 Italian leagues (1992, 1993, 1994, 1996 and 1999) and 3 Italian Super Cups (1992, 1993 and 1994). With the Italian national side, he was runner-up at the 1994 World Cup and the 2000 European Championship. He has represented the 'Azzuri' on 79 occasions.
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Rudi Völler: Legendary German forward, featured in 4 World Cups, capped 90 times while scoring 47 goals for Germany. Started the 90/91 season on the back of winning FIFA World Cup 1990 (made Team of the Tournament), he lead AS Roma to win Coppa Italia and UEFA Cup runner up in 1991. Proven performer at the absolute highest level, his experience would be invaluable to his team.
Sérgio Conceição: A winger with 56 caps and 12 goals for Portugal. He’s known for his speed and strength, combined with his direct dribbling and crossing skills that give many assists to teammates, and accurate shooting. During the late 90's, he won a League title, UEFA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, Italian Supercup, and Italian Cup with Lazio.
Mark Iuliano: Regular for Italy national football team in UEFA Euro 2000 and FIFA World Cup 2002. A strong defender aided with great height and is an accomplished man-marker. During the 90’s era alone, he had 2 League titles, while reaching 2 Champions League Finals with Juventus.
Moreno Mannini: A League winner and Champions League runner-up right-back, he played 510 games in 15 years in for Sampdoria almost always as a starter. He was a very good marker, very fast and solid.
Paulo Sérgio Silvestre do Nascimento: A Brazilian winger/forward that formed an effective striking partnership with youngster Francesco Totti and Marco Delvecchio at AS Roma, scoring 22 goals in 57 league appearances. A good dribbler even at top speed, he would be a decent impact player to come off the bench.
Sérgio Conceição: A winger with 56 caps and 12 goals for Portugal. He’s known for his speed and strength, combined with his direct dribbling and crossing skills that give many assists to teammates, and accurate shooting. During the late 90's, he won a League title, UEFA Cup, UEFA Super Cup, Italian Supercup, and Italian Cup with Lazio.
Mark Iuliano: Regular for Italy national football team in UEFA Euro 2000 and FIFA World Cup 2002. A strong defender aided with great height and is an accomplished man-marker. During the 90’s era alone, he had 2 League titles, while reaching 2 Champions League Finals with Juventus.
Moreno Mannini: A League winner and Champions League runner-up right-back, he played 510 games in 15 years in for Sampdoria almost always as a starter. He was a very good marker, very fast and solid.
Paulo Sérgio Silvestre do Nascimento: A Brazilian winger/forward that formed an effective striking partnership with youngster Francesco Totti and Marco Delvecchio at AS Roma, scoring 22 goals in 57 league appearances. A good dribbler even at top speed, he would be a decent impact player to come off the bench.
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