90's Serie A - Draft Thread

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AldoRaine18 said:
I guess everyone will bring his keeper up now. :lol:

I know Tacconi was a 80s guy, but he did alright for a couple of seasons I think.
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But Marchegianni definitely deserves to be on the list of top keepers from that era, I'd only have Pagluica and Peruzzi ahead of him, Toldo maybe, and Zenga was fantastic in the 80's.

The most expensive keeper in the world at one point mid 90s and started 3 games at the 94' world cup.
 
stretford kid said:
my 12th pick is papin..... dont know how he was forgotton
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Never established as a started, injured, problems adapting to the league and in general was a big disappointment.


nahealai said:
:D

Everyone is so precious about their players, aren't they? :D

Marchegianni was a good one too, but a slightly lesser goalkeeper than the others mentioned. I am not being personal with anyone at all, just stating my opinion. There are areas of my team which are far inferior to that of others and I have no problem with admitting it. Of course it's personal bias and everyone's personal choice, but I think goalkeeper is an important position in this particular draft. That's all I'm saying.

Now, any chance you'd dig out a decent right-back for me, Fergus' son? :lol:
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Not being precious, he's a great keeper and should have been mentioned in your list IMO. Started 3 games at the 94' world cup, he's a better choice than a few on your list for sure.

Not suggesting you're being personal either, just that you are wrong, mistaken, or misinformed.

I might have a RB for you, I'll PM when I get a chance.

nahealai said:
Hold your horses there, chief. You're about four goes too early there!

:lol:
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He isn't, he makes 11 and 12 together.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
He wasn't. But he never replicated his form in France in other leagues. Wouldn't be a strong pick.
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he won two serie a titles in two years and was first choice, his all round game was brilliant

your cant cant judge people on what u see on wikipedia
 
too many people on here not judging players on what they have actually seen but picking on "research"...... :nono:
 
He was not even first choice in his second season. Massaro and Savicevic started most games up front with Boban, Donadoni, Albertini and Desailly in midfield.
 
stretford kid said:
he won two serie a titles in two years and was first choice, his all round game was brilliant

your cant cant judge people on what u see on wikipedia
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I thought in general first choice players would start all the biggest games of the season, Papin didn't start the final of the champions league. That's not down to rotation or anything, not with your star signing and a player of his quality, it's because he was underwhelming.
 
zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini 2. Albertini 3. D. Baggio 4. Ince 5. Mihajlovic 6. Fuser 7. di Vaio 8. F. Galli 9. Massaro 10. Carnasciali 11. Abbiati

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane 2. Zanetti 3. F. Inzaghi 4. Sensini 5. Almeyda 6. Minotti 7. Francescoli 8. Marchegiani 9. Asprilla 10. Jarni 11. Karembeu

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten 2. Donadoni 3. C.Ferrara 4. Favalli 5. Berti 6. Bergkamp 7. Mussi 8. Negro 9. Konsel 10. di Francesco 11. Eranio

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo 2. Simeone 3. Totti 4. Winter 5. Panucci 6. ? 7. ? 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

baconlars : 1. Matthäus 2. Vialli 3. Savicevic 4. Torricelli 5. Chiesa 6. Julio Cesar 7. Giannini 8. Toldo 9. Carboni 10. di Biagio 11. A.C. Zago

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio 2. Djorkaeff 3. Pagliuca 4. Tassoti 5. Apolloni 6. Moriero 7. Careca 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard 2.Costacurta 3. Veron 4. Klinsmann 5. Zambrotta 6. Lentini 7. Jugović 8. Taffarel 9. Ravanelli 10. Chamot 11. N'Gotty

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa 2. Thuram 3. Crespo 4. P.Sousa 5. Blanc 6. Sosa 7. Angloma 8. Branco 9. Fiore 10. Alemao 11. Jorgensen

Red head red : 1. Del Piero 2. Cannavaro 3. Vierchowod 4. Bierhoff 5. Moller 6. Rossi 7. Helveg 8. Ambrosini 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

Paolo Di Canio : 1. Baresi 2. Deschamps 3. Vieri 4. Montella 5. Buffon 6. B. Laudrup 7. Katanec 8. Bokšić 9. West 10. Carrera 11. Nakata

Anointed One : 1. Batistuta 2. Desailly 3. Bergomi 4. Platt 5. Pessotto 6. Scifo 7. Recoba 8. Ferri 9. Delvecchio 10. Birindelli 11. Tommasi

AldoRaine18 : 1. Nesta 2. Nedved 3. Brehme 4. Di Livio 5. Tacchinardi 6. Seedorf 7. Stankovic 8. Caniggia 9. Amoroso 10. Signorini 11. Tacconi

nahealai : 1. Signori 2. Mancini 3. Montero 4. Conte 5. Peruzzi 6. Balbo 7. Simone 8. Evani 9. Tudor 10. Fortunato 11. Crippa 12. TBA

Isotope : 1. Gullit 2. Zola 3. Kohler 4. Iuliano 5. Dunga 6. Völler 7. Candela 8. Conceição 9. Mannini 10. Jonk 11. G. Galli 12. Sergio

KM : 1. Cafu 2. Boban 3. Benarrivo 4. Hassler 5. Salas 6. Couto 7. Di Matteo 8. Zamorano 9. Schwarz 10. Cervone 11. ? 12. ?

Stretford Kid : 1. Weah 2. Davids 3. Aldair 4. Leonardo 5. Ayala 6. Lombardo 7. Zenga 8. Ortega 9. Gascoigne 10. Casriraghi 11. Porrini 12. Papin
 
Fergus' son said:
Not being precious, he's a great keeper and should have been mentioned in your list IMO. Started 3 games at the 94' world cup, he's a better choice than a few on your list for sure.

Not suggesting you're being personal either, just that you are wrong, mistaken, or misinformed.
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I am hardly misinformed anyway. Wrong and mistaken maybe (everyone's opinion differs) but I just think he was ever so slightly inferior to the others mentioned. Still a great goalkeeper mind.

Fergus' son said:
I might have a RB for you, I'll PM when I get a chance.
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Cheers, mate.


Fergus' son said:
He isn't, he makes 11 and 12 together.
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Apologies, stretfordkid. Mind all over the shop here.
 
stretford kid said:
because they have said it!

and people have been picking a best of serie a team picking players on their 00's form and leaving out people like donadoni n moller who should def be in it
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Everyones personal criteria is different, thats why there are varying choices. Doesnt mean they are not basing it on things they have seen. Exemplified by you suggesting Moller should be in the all time team, which I find strange.

stretford kid said:
he scored 4 goals in 6 champions league games in that season il think you will find
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I thought it was 3? And why did he not make the final? Anyway Champions league doesnt really apply here, though it provides context. He was poor in the league, or atleast underwhelming. Massaro and Savievic, who were not exactly tremendously consistent, started ahead of him, says a great deal.

In general, I think most people would agree that Papins time at Milan was disappointing.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
He was not even first choice in his second season. Massaro and Savicevic started most games up front with Boban, Donadoni, Albertini and Desailly in midfield.
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savicevic wasnt a regular that year he began estabilishing himself that year
 
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Impressions? Suggestions for 12th pick?

Also, how boring does the PL 20 year draft in the mains look in comparison to this? This one has been great fun.
 
Right gents, I'm in a bit of a pickle here with regards what formation(s) to play, and a result, what player to choose for my final pick to allow me to play that formation(s). I quite like the versatility of most of my players but I'm a little apprehensive as to how best utilise them. Which one do you think is best/least shite? In no particular order:


3-5-2

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Sub: ???


3-5-2

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Sub: Simone


4-3-3

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Sub: Simone


4-1-3-2

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Sub: Balbo


I am not particularly set on any of them for certain, but I quite like the first one. Goals galore in that front five and defensively good as well, although Conte would need to be disciplined defensively, with the onus on himself and Crippa to nullify any attacking midfielders loitering in that area.

The second 3-5-2 may be preferable on the basis of an additional, purposeful defensive midfielder (I have on in mind who has played with some of my previous picks and was a fan favourite with his clubs in Serie A) but that means playing Conte slightly out of position, but I think he'd do a job out there if required.

The 4-3-3 is badly diagrammed there (midfield three can be deployed with a little more width) and I would still need a top quality right full-back (basically the right full version of Fortunato) for it to be worth considering, and I don't think there's one left out there.

The final one is probably my least favourite as it means I'm leaving a 0.5 goal per game in Serie A striker on the bench. I'm also wary of playing Beppe up front on his own and I think the partnership between himself and Balbo would be a fruitful one.

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Apologies for the extremely long-winded post gents, I'm just looking for some advice/hints/opinions is all. All criticisms are welcome so long as they are constructive! :D
 
Paolo Di Canio said:
How do you guys copy your formations from Football user to here?
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When you have your players in position on the field, just click on "save" at the bottom of the screen. The screen should reload with a few new links underneath
the image of the pitch and your players. Copy the one in the box that says "IMG CODE — COPY AND PASTE THIS TO YOUR FORUM". Then you need to paste this link address into the "Insert Image" function on the Caf (just click on "Quote" on anybody else's post on this page and the "Insert Image" function is the yellow-coloured one on the row of icons).

I'm sure somebody else could explain it better, but that's how I do it anyway.
 
You just have to save your team and right click on the image that appears and click on "Copy Image URL" or "Copy Image Location", come here, and put [ img ] and [ / img ] (without spaces) around that link and post here.
 
nahealai said:
Right gents, I'm in a bit of a pickle here with regards what formation(s) to play, and a result, what player to choose for my final pick to allow me to play that formation(s). I quite like the versatility of most of my players but I'm a little apprehensive as to how best utilise them. Which one do you think is best/least shite? In no particular order:


3-5-2

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Sub: ???


3-5-2

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Sub: Simone


4-3-3

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Sub: Simone


4-1-3-2

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Sub: Balbo


I am not particularly set on any of them for certain, but I quite like the first one. Goals galore in that front five and defensively good as well, although Conte would need to be disciplined defensively, with the onus on himself and Crippa to nullify any attacking midfielders loitering in that area.

The second 3-5-2 may be preferable on the basis of an additional, purposeful defensive midfielder (I have on in mind who has played with some of my previous picks and was a fan favourite with his clubs in Serie A) but that means playing Conte slightly out of position, but I think he'd do a job out there if required.

The 4-3-3 is badly diagrammed there (midfield three can be deployed with a little more width) and I would still need a top quality right full-back (basically the right full version of Fortunato) for it to be worth considering, and I don't think there's one left out there.

The final one is probably my least favourite as it means I'm leaving a 0.5 goal per game in Serie A striker on the bench. I'm also wary of playing Beppe up front on his own and I think the partnership between himself and Balbo would be a fruitful one.

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Apologies for the extremely long-winded post gents, I'm just looking for some advice/hints/opinions is all. All criticisms are welcome so long as they are constructive! :D
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I'd say the 3rd one.

All the rest seem a little defensively suspect to me, though you could get away with it with some good tactical descriptions.

Signori, Mancini and Balbo is going to give defenders a nightmare but I think it will be suicidal for you to go into the fixtures with only 3 defenders.


stretford kid said:
Get a cm for 12th pick to replace karenbeu
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Who would you suggest? Is Karembeu not rated highly by you guys? I always thought he was a great player, only picked him late because he ony had two seasons in Serie A.
 
Friends and foe. Should I go with this:

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Gullit up front? That's really pushing it I feel.

Edit : He would be a really good target man, but not that good on the scoring front.
 
Fergus' son said:


Impressions? Suggestions for 12th pick?

Also, how boring does the PL 20 year draft in the mains look in comparison to this? This one has been great fun.
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Solid back four/five and midfield, and superb players in attack. Although, I thought Asprilla is more of a no. 9 then second striker.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Gullit up front? That's really pushing it I feel.

Edit : He would be a really good target man, but not that good on the scoring front.
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I thought he would be good on holding the ball and bring others into the play. But, I agree he's not a typical center forward.
 
Dan Petrescu.

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After some careful consideration, and the realisation that I would indeed be very defensively suspect with three at the back (especially with Fortunato more renowned as a left wing-back), I've gone for a player who was exceptional in both defence and attack on the right (and a fantastic compliment to Fortunato). 95 international caps tells it's own story about Dan Petrescu, one of Romania's finest ever footballers. Rose to prominence in Serie A in that absolutely mental Foggia team under the tutelage of Zdeněk Zeman (Signori also played in this team), Petrescu also played for Genoa in Italy during the decade. To add to his 95 international caps, Petrescu also played in four major International tournaments during the timeframe we're discussing.



Final selection:

4-4-2 (Diamond) / 4-1-3-2

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I'm really happy with how my team turned out. I was a little apprehensive around the 7th or 8th round and worried about the direction my team was going. Two excellent wing-backs, a really solid centre-back partnership and a good defensive midfielder later, I am quite content. My midfield can either be deployed as a narrow diamond and leave lots of room for attacking wing-backs in Fortunato and Petresu, or be deployed a little wider to help out on the flanks as well. Having a winger/attacker with a 1 in 3 goal ratio in Serie A in reserve isn't a bad position to be in either.

I'm not saying my lads are terrific or anything, but I'm quietly confident my final selection would give the majority of teams in the draft a decent run for their money anyway.
 
zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini 2. Albertini 3. D. Baggio 4. Ince 5. Mihajlovic 6. Fuser 7. di Vaio 8. F. Galli 9. Massaro 10. Carnasciali 11. Abbiati

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane 2. Zanetti 3. F. Inzaghi 4. Sensini 5. Almeyda 6. Minotti 7. Francescoli 8. Marchegiani 9. Asprilla 10. Jarni 11. Karembeu

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten 2. Donadoni 3. C.Ferrara 4. Favalli 5. Berti 6. Bergkamp 7. Mussi 8. Negro 9. Konsel 10. di Francesco 11. Eranio

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo 2. Simeone 3. Totti 4. Winter 5. Panucci 6. ? 7. ? 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

baconlars : 1. Matthäus 2. Vialli 3. Savicevic 4. Torricelli 5. Chiesa 6. Julio Cesar 7. Giannini 8. Toldo 9. Carboni 10. di Biagio 11. A.C. Zago

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio 2. Djorkaeff 3. Pagliuca 4. Tassoti 5. Apolloni 6. Moriero 7. Careca 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard 2.Costacurta 3. Veron 4. Klinsmann 5. Zambrotta 6. Lentini 7. Jugović 8. Taffarel 9. Ravanelli 10. Chamot 11. N'Gotty

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa 2. Thuram 3. Crespo 4. P.Sousa 5. Blanc 6. Sosa 7. Angloma 8. Branco 9. Fiore 10. Alemao 11. Jorgensen

Red head red : 1. Del Piero 2. Cannavaro 3. Vierchowod 4. Bierhoff 5. Moller 6. Rossi 7. Helveg 8. Ambrosini 9. ? 10. ? 11. ?

Paolo Di Canio : 1. Baresi 2. Deschamps 3. Vieri 4. Montella 5. Buffon 6. B. Laudrup 7. Katanec 8. Bokšić 9. West 10. Carrera 11. Nakata

Anointed One : 1. Batistuta 2. Desailly 3. Bergomi 4. Platt 5. Pessotto 6. Scifo 7. Recoba 8. Ferri 9. Delvecchio 10. Birindelli 11. Tommasi

AldoRaine18 : 1. Nesta 2. Nedved 3. Brehme 4. Di Livio 5. Tacchinardi 6. Seedorf 7. Stankovic 8. Caniggia 9. Amoroso 10. Signorini 11. Tacconi

nahealai : 1. Signori 2. Mancini 3. Montero 4. Conte 5. Peruzzi 6. Balbo 7. Simone 8. Evani 9. Tudor 10. Fortunato 11. Crippa 12. Petrescu

Isotope : 1. Gullit 2. Zola 3. Kohler 4. Iuliano 5. Dunga 6. Völler 7. Candela 8. Conceição 9. Mannini 10. Jonk 11. G. Galli 12. Sergio

KM : 1. Cafu 2. Boban 3. Benarrivo 4. Hassler 5. Salas 6. Couto 7. Di Matteo 8. Zamorano 9. Schwarz 10. Cervone 11. ? 12. ?

Stretford Kid : 1. Weah 2. Davids 3. Aldair 4. Leonardo 5. Ayala 6. Lombardo 7. Zenga 8. Ortega 9. Gascoigne 10. Casriraghi 11. Porrini 12. Papin

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Who do you guys think i should choose for left-back between Giuseppe Pancaro and Jorg Heinrich?

Cant decide
 
Paolo Di Canio said:
Who do you guys think i should choose for left-back between Giuseppe Pancaro and Jorg Heinrich?

Cant decide
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I personally would go for Heinrich. But, Pancaro won much more than him in the Serie A 90's. Hope this would help :).
 
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