90's Serie A - Draft Thread

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lifaboy said:
Ok, I have a couple of options now, need your help guys.

Option 1: Leave Marrochi out:
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Option 2: Leave Bergkamp out, play Di Francesco wide. Making this 4-5-1
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Option 3, Leaving Eraino/Di Francesco out, Playing 4-4-1-1 with Bergkamp.
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For me, I think option 1 is the worst, with Marrochi a forgotten player and glad I remembered with him on the 12th pick, was a very good CM playmaker, him and Berti can be wonderful duo, and I don't know wether to keep young Bergkamp as a super-sub, or dropping Eraino/Di Francesco, and then if I pick to drop one of the latter two, which one.

Thoughts??
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Option 3, though I still maintain that Bergkamp will be ineffective.
 
lifaboy said:
Ok, I have a couple of options now, need your help guys.

Option 1: Leave Marrochi out:
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Option 2: Leave Bergkamp out, play Di Francesco wide. Making this 4-5-1
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Option 3, Leaving Eraino/Di Francesco out, Playing 4-4-1-1 with Bergkamp.
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For me, I think option 1 is the worst, with Marrochi a forgotten player and glad I remembered with him on the 12th pick, was a very good CM playmaker, him and Berti can be wonderful duo, and I don't know wether to keep young Bergkamp as a super-sub, or dropping Eraino/Di Francesco, and then if I pick to drop one of the latter two, which one.

Thoughts??
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I'm not sure really. Donadoni, Berti & Van Basten are your 3 stars so you need to get a formation that brings the best out of all them. You have no out and out holding midfielder, so maybe play 3 in the midfield.

Bergkamp could still be a vote winner just because of the name, but he wasn't good in Italy. Super sub might be best.

Something like 451:

-------------Van Basten----------------
----------------------------------------
Donadoni--------------------Di Francesco
---------Eranio-Berti-Marrochi------------

One thing is sure, you have plenty of options!
 
Thisistheone said:
I'm not sure really. Donadoni, Berti & Van Basten are your 3 stars so you need to get a formation that brings the best out of all them. You have no out and out holding midfielder, so maybe play 3 in the midfield.

Bergkamp could still be a vote winner just because of the name, but he wasn't good in Italy. Super sub might be best.

Something like 451:

-------------Van Basten----------------
----------------------------------------
Donadoni--------------------Di Francesco
---------Eranio-Berti-Marrochi------------

One thing is sure, you have plenty of options!
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Eraino as CM? Not sure that's possible, maybe Di Francesco
 
lifaboy said:
Eraino as CM? Not sure that's possible, maybe Di Francesco
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Ok. I tried fitting in Donadoni on the left wing but you can move him to right wing, Eranio left with Di Francesco dropping back. If the formation seems a bit defensive, well this is Serie A. Most teams in the 90's played with at least one defensive midfielder.
 
Thisistheone said:
Ok. I tried fitting in Donadoni on the left wing but you can move him to right wing, Eranio left with Di Francesco dropping back. If the formation seems a bit defensive, well this is Serie A. Most teams in the 90's played with at least one defensive midfielder.
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So your saying playing like:

------------Berti Marrochi
Di Francesco---Donadoni---Eraino

Or

------------------Berti-------
-------Di Francesco--Marrochi
Donadoni-----------------------Eraino
 
lifaboy said:
So your saying playing like:

------------Berti Marrochi
Di Francesco---Donadoni---Eraino

Or

------------------Berti-------
-------Di Francesco--Marrochi
Donadoni-----------------------Eraino
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2nd one of those is your best bet.
 
lifaboy said:
So your saying playing like:

------------Berti Marrochi
Di Francesco---Donadoni---Eraino

Or

------------------Berti-------
-------Di Francesco--Marrochi
Donadoni-----------------------Eraino
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Thats more of what I was thinking.
 
Isotope said:
Solid back four/five and midfield, and superb players in attack. Although, I thought Asprilla is more of a no. 9 then second striker.
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No I think Asprilla would be fine there, he can play as a number 9 but would automatically drop deeper and run the channels when playing with someone like Inzaghi.

He was voted 6th best player in the world after Parma's Uefa cup win, a season in which he didn't score many but contributed much to the other aspects of the game.
 
Fergus' son said:
No I think Asprilla would be fine there, he can play as a number 9 but would automatically drop deeper and run the channels when playing with someone like Inzaghi.

He was voted 6th best player in the world after Parma's Uefa cup win, a season in which he didn't score many but contributed much to the other aspects of the game.
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Have you seen the video "Football Italia Goallllazzo!!" or something like that, with James Richardson? It shows the best players and goals from 1994-1996 and it has a special section just for Tino. Some of the goals he scored were :drool:

Edit: found this link on you tube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlapdOpgOzI

Should wet the appetite of any football connoisseur.
 
Thisistheone said:
Have you seen the video "Football Italia Goallllazzo!!" or something like that, with James Richardson? It shows the best players and goals from 1994-1996 and it has a special section just for Tino. Some of the goals he scored were :drool:

Edit: found this link on you tube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlapdOpgOzI

Should wet the appetite of any football connoisseur.
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Cheers for that mate, will check it out properly when I get a chance.

Love that it's a clip from a VHS recording!
 
Fergus' son said:
Cheers for that mate, will check it out properly when I get a chance.

Love that it's a clip from a VHS recording!
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Sadly it's not all there, only 3 parts but still brilliant to look at. Yeah, the VHS quality gives it that old school feeling. And the commentators are superb. My two favourite, Peter Brackley and Gary Bloom.

stretford kid said:
whats with people asking for help with picks? defeats the whole purpose???
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Thinks it's fine now we're almost done and only picking the 12th man.
 
Thisistheone said:
We drawing the groups today?
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Red head red hasn't been online for 4 odd days. Counting him out and considering Anderson's and Fergie's Gum's resignation, we are left with 13 teams. So I have two suggestions.

1. We have straight knockouts. There will be 6 games, and the best loser from the 6 will then face the left out team. So we will have 7 teams qualifying, then we repeat the same process, that is have 3 quarters and have the best loser of the 3 face the left out of the 7 QFinalists. And then there will be 4 SFinalists.

2. Make 4 groups, three groups of 3 and one of 4. And 2 teams qualify from all 4 groups. Kinda unfair for the teams who are drawn in the group of 4.

I prefer going for the first option. Simple and straight forward.
 
The only problem with straight knock-out is that after all this picking, people will be out after playing just one game.
 
Thisistheone said:
The only problem with straight knock-out is that after all this picking, people will be out after playing just one game.
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That's true, but I remember doing the groups ( I think it was the Premier League draft when you played as well) and got a bit of redundant. And then there is always the issue of looking at vote percentages and all if the groups finish with one win a piece for all the teams.

Having said that whatever is the consensus of the majority is, I am willing to go with that.
 
baconlars said:
I prefer the first option aswell. I think the voting interest will be worse if we do group games.
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True, in all drafts that have taken place, including the mains, there has always been more interest with knockouts. Like the Nationality one. With the teams having a lot of lesser known players, I doubt if it would be a good idea to have groups. It might go down the same path the 50s one did in the mains, with single digit votes in most fixtures.
 
True, groups might push the voters a bit too much in terms of interest. I'm easy. Any one is fine with me.
 
AldoRaine18 said:
Red head red hasn't been online for 4 odd days. Counting him out and considering Anderson's and Fergie's Gum's resignation, we are left with 13 teams. So I have two suggestions.

1. We have straight knockouts. There will be 6 games, and the best loser from the 6 will then face the left out team. So we will have 7 teams qualifying, then we repeat the same process, that is have 3 quarters and have the best loser of the 3 face the left out of the 7 QFinalists. And then there will be 4 SFinalists.

2. Make 4 groups, three groups of 3 and one of 4. And 2 teams qualify from all 4 groups. Kinda unfair for the teams who are drawn in the group of 4.

I prefer going for the first option. Simple and straight forward.
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I think best way is to draw 16 teams and give bye to the team which faces an incomplete team then we will go as usual. Making the tournament bigger lessens the voters interest.
 
I want knockouts. There has been some discontent about our amount of drafts, so making groups = more matches = more threads = not respecting.
So I think that if we want to make more drafts in the near future we should do knockouts
 
I thought making the team that lost by the least margin was fairer than giving a bye, as it also gives a second chance to a team which was strong but got drawn against another strong team.

Also, the number of games remains the same. We are basically taking a team that already played one game than having a fresh team which is ideally the case in knockouts.
 
Just browsing on Youtube and wanted to remind myself how lethal Montella, Vieri and Boksic were infront of goal...hopefully they can re-produce that form in this draft :p





 
I think we should go with normal knockout game as margins doesnot matter in knockouts anyway. I don't mind going in either way
 
AldoRaine18 said:
I don't mind regular knockouts, just that I thought would be better to play the designated game than giving a bye.
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I like the whole margin concept, but I have a question:
If its me vs you first round, you win by one and now I get a second chance against Brwned, how will you take a player from my team if I need to play again, or if there's a chance I might even win and need my team?
 
lifaboy said:
I like the whole margin concept, but I have a question:
If its me vs you first round, you win by one and now I get a second chance against Brwned, how will you take a player from my team if I need to play again, or if there's a chance I might even win and need my team?
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:D Nice question.

We can do one thing. No one picks a player from the opposition team till all 7 games are over. Then, when the guy who lost by the least margin is decided, the rest go on to pick.

Now, continuing with your example, you play Brwned and I wait for the result. If you win, I will pick a player from Brwned's team first and then you, as you lost to me. If Brwned wins, whoever defeated you with a bigger margin will pick first from your team. You think that would work?
 
AldoRaine18 said:
:D Nice question.

We can do one thing. No one picks a player from the opposition team till all 7 games are over. Then, when the guy who lost by the least margin is decided, the rest go on to pick.

Now, continuing with your example, you play Brwned and I wait for the result. If you win, I will pick a player from Brwned's team first and then you, as you lost to me. If Brwned wins, whoever defeated you with a bigger margin will pick first from your team. You think that would work?
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Fine by me. Let's just get this started :-)
 
I know, this has been far from successful :lol:

But then this has also probably taught me the most about old players than the other ones.
 
Yeah that sounds fine Aldo. Knock-out it is then! Look forward to the draw.

The Premier league draft went much smoother than this one but I've enjoyed this one more because of the unknown element of a lot of the players involved, and the array of talent that was available.
 
I guess all teams apart from mine are complete. For the last player I would go with Gianluca Festa

Strong Inter center back. Would give me an option to go with 5 at the back.

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zlatan_Ish : 1. Maldini 2. Albertini 3. D. Baggio 4. Ince 5. Mihajlovic 6. Fuser 7. di Vaio 8. F. Galli 9. Massaro 10. Carnasciali 11. Abbiati

Fergus' son : 1. Zidane 2. Zanetti 3. F. Inzaghi 4. Sensini 5. Almeyda 6. Minotti 7. Francescoli 8. Marchegiani 9. Asprilla 10. Jarni 11. Karembeu 12. Fonseca

Lifaboy : 1. Van Basten 2. Donadoni 3. C.Ferrara 4. Favalli 5. Berti 6. Bergkamp 7. Mussi 8. Negro 9. Konsel 10. di Francesco 11. Eranio 12. Marrochi

Anderson18 : 1. Ronaldo 2. Simeone 3. Totti 4. Winter 5. Panucci 6. ? 7. ? 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ? 12?

baconlars : 1. Matthäus 2. Vialli 3. Savicevic 4. Torricelli 5. Chiesa 6. Julio Cesar 7. Giannini 8. Toldo 9. Carboni 10. di Biagio 11. A.C. Zago 12. Locatelli

Fergies Gum : 1. Baggio 2. Djorkaeff 3. Pagliuca 4. Tassoti 5. Apolloni 6. Moriero 7. Careca 8. ? 9. ? 10. ? 11. ? 12?

Thisistheone : 1. Rijkaard 2.Costacurta 3. Veron 4. Klinsmann 5. Zambrotta 6. Lentini 7. Jugović 8. Taffarel 9. Ravanelli 10. Chamot 11. N'Gotty 12. Luis Oliveira

Brwned : 1. Rui Costa 2. Thuram 3. Crespo 4. P.Sousa 5. Blanc 6. Sosa 7. Angloma 8. Branco 9. Fiore 10. Alemao 11. Jorgensen 12. Ielpo

Paolo Di Canio : 1. Baresi 2. Deschamps 3. Vieri 4. Montella 5. Buffon 6. B. Laudrup 7. Katanec 8. Bokšić 9. West 10. Carrera 11. Nakata 12. Pancaro

Anointed One : 1. Batistuta 2. Desailly 3. Bergomi 4. Platt 5. Pessotto 6. Scifo 7. Recoba 8. Ferri 9. Delvecchio 10. Birindelli 11. Tommasi 12. Bucci

AldoRaine18 : 1. Nesta 2. Nedved 3. Brehme 4. Di Livio 5. Tacchinardi 6. Seedorf 7. Stankovic 8. Caniggia 9. Amoroso 10. Signorini 11. Tacconi 12. Festa

nahealai : 1. Signori 2. Mancini 3. Montero 4. Conte 5. Peruzzi 6. Balbo 7. Simone 8. Evani 9. Tudor 10. Fortunato 11. Crippa 12. Petrescu

Isotope : 1. Gullit 2. Zola 3. Kohler 4. Iuliano 5. Dunga 6. Völler 7. Candela 8. Conceição 9. Mannini 10. Jonk 11. G. Galli 12. Sergio

KM : 1. Cafu 2. Boban 3. Benarrivo 4. Hassler 5. Salas 6. Couto 7. Di Matteo 8. Zamorano 9. Schwarz 10. Cervone 11. ? 12. ?

Stretford Kid : 1. Weah 2. Davids 3. Aldair 4. Leonardo 5. Ayala 6. Lombardo 7. Zenga 8. Ortega 9. Gascoigne 10. Casriraghi 11. Porrini 12. Papin
 
Wait Zlatan and KM are left. Once they complete their teams, I would go ahead with the draw, or even better, if some neutral can volunteer to do it.
 
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