70s Retro Football Fantasy Championship - DRAFT THREAD

I have a feeling I know exactly who one of them is, the other I have a very good idea on.
 
Pretty boy IQ man Frank Lampard
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Emmanuel "no I don't do porn" Petit

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Ruud was one of my all-time favourites - I had thought of picking him first, but DE picked two very good foils for him in my absence
 
Yep, I knew Lampard would be that player - I wasn't expect Petit to be the other one mind.
 
Petit was born in the 60s? Or did somebody wrongly pick him in the last draft?
 
1 Antohan: 1. ZIDANE 2. LUIS ENRIQUE 3. ZANETTI
2 DanNistelrooy: 1. RONALDO 2. LUCIO 3. CAFU
3 Rood: 1. RIVALDO 2. GUARDIOLA 3. R. CARLOS
4 TheReligion: 1. NESTA 2. PUYOL 3. RUI COSTA
5 Cal? 1. KEANE 2. BECKHAM 3. PIRES
6 Gio 1. DAVIDS 2. MENDIETA 3. VERON
7 Cling Bak 1. HENRY 2. RIQUELME 3. OVERMARS
8 Jayvin 1. VIEIRA 2. AYALA 3. F. DE BOER
9 kps88 1. SCHOLES 2. GATTUSO 3. CAMPBELL
10 Ralaks 1. NEDVED, 2. CANNAVARO 3. COCU
11 Cold Boy 1. STAM, 2. BALLACK 3. SHEVCHENKO
12 Zen 1. TOTTI, 2. THURAM 3. DECO
13 Crustanoid 1. RAÚL, 2. DEL PIERO, 3. VAN NISTELROOY
14 Brwned 1. PIRLO, 2. R.FERDINAND, 3. ZAMBROTTA
15 Team Brian 1. MAKELELE, 2. SEEDORF, 3. DROGBA
16 Snow 1. GIGGS, 2. FIGO, 3. LAMPARD, 4. PETIT
 
kps88 said:
It makes no sense having one at the end of the draft.
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I think it is necessary as you have no idea what the swings and roundabouts of laters picks will bring about, that is where teams can go seriously unbalanced. As it stands now, I look through the players list and don't see a lot of feasible trades where both parties would agree.

What can be done is to have the window and one final round of subs at the end. In that case if I see a big black hole in midfield and you have one in attack we can trade and then bench the replaced player and using the 12th round to bring on an option to the one transferred out.

The good thing here as well is that those who have picked well and are happy with their teams don't get treated unfairly. To them the sub is a reinforcement that adds options while those who traded probably end up with a dud on the bench.
 
Snow said:
I think I know who you thought I was going to pick. He was a serious candidate. I don't expect to get him now.
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I was expecting Lampard to go on the loop, it was either TB or you as he was the sort of CM you had to be looking into.

That's a decent midfield four you've pulled off there.
 
tbh, brian is on, so there shouldn't be a need for him to pm anyone.
 
I am torn right now over how to proceed, not between players but positions but I have decided to capitalise on very strong midfielders being still available to enhance my already strong midfield.

Pick No. 50 is Dejan Stankovic
 
Snow, was there a particular reason you went in for Petit?
 
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1 Antohan: 1. ZIDANE 2. LUIS ENRIQUE 3. ZANETTI
2 DanNistelrooy: 1. RONALDO 2. LUCIO 3. CAFU
3 Rood: 1. RIVALDO 2. GUARDIOLA 3. R. CARLOS
4 TheReligion: 1. NESTA 2. PUYOL 3. RUI COSTA
5 Cal? 1. KEANE 2. BECKHAM 3. PIRES
6 Gio 1. DAVIDS 2. MENDIETA 3. VERON
7 Cling Bak 1. HENRY 2. RIQUELME 3. OVERMARS
8 Jayvin 1. VIEIRA 2. AYALA 3. F. DE BOER
9 kps88 1. SCHOLES 2. GATTUSO 3. CAMPBELL
10 Ralaks 1. NEDVED, 2. CANNAVARO 3. COCU
11 Cold Boy 1. STAM, 2. BALLACK 3. SHEVCHENKO
12 Zen 1. TOTTI, 2. THURAM 3. DECO
13 Crustanoid 1. RAÚL, 2. DEL PIERO, 3. VAN NISTELROOY
14 Brwned 1. PIRLO, 2. R.FERDINAND, 3. ZAMBROTTA 4. SHEARER
15 Team Brian 1. MAKELELE, 2. SEEDORF, 3. DROGBA 4. STANKOVIC
16 Snow 1. GIGGS, 2. FIGO, 3. LAMPARD, 4. PETIT
 
Team Brian GB said:
I am torn right now over how to proceed, not between players but positions but I have decided to capitalise on very strong midfielders being still available to enhance my already strong midfield.

Pick No. 50 is Dejan Stankovic


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I did wonder about him but, quite frankly, I don't really rate him that much.

Clearly has a cannon shot, decent all-round and has something about him (he wouldn't be playing at the top level for so long otherwise) but I find him very inconsistent and flattering to deceive for the most part.

I just couldn't see myself having to sing his praises later on if I felt that non-plussed about him.
 
antohan said:
I did wonder about him but, quite frankly, I don't really rate him that much.

Clearly has a cannon shot, decent all-round and has something about him (he wouldn't be playing at the top level for so long otherwise) but I find him very inconsistent and flattering to deceive for the most part.

I just couldn't see myself having to sing his praises later on if I felt that non-plussed about him.
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A few people were saying that about Seedorf as well though once you put them together and with Makelele you create a central midfield so dominating that nobody in this game could go toe to toe with or pass through.

You'll probably have Vuc here soon enough.
 
Team Brian GB said:
Snow, was there a particular reason you went in for Petit?
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I wanted a DMC and of the ones that are left I rate him the highest. There are 3 or 4 that might have done the same job but Petit was always consistent and was a winner. I like his type.
 
Going offline for about 12 hours or more. Who can I PM picks to?
 
So what striker is Crustanoid going to take this time then?
 
antohan said:
I did wonder about him but, quite frankly, I don't really rate him that much.

Clearly has a cannon shot, decent all-round and has something about him (he wouldn't be playing at the top level for so long otherwise) but I find him very inconsistent and flattering to deceive for the most part.

I just couldn't see myself having to sing his praises later on if I felt that non-plussed about him.
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He had two great seasons in a row a few years back. Was immense in the CL. That's his prime and that's what he should be judged for. I imagine that's the reason for this pick.

That or there are about 3-5 players considered in the same talent bracket when in their prime.
 
Team Brian GB said:
A few people were saying that about Seedorf as well though once you put them together and with Makelele you create a central midfield so dominating that nobody in this game could go toe to toe with or pass through.

You'll probably have Vuc here soon enough.
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I think Gio has a better centre mid trio already come to think of it. Makelele in there's great and all but he'd still dominate the midfield, it's got plenty of balance and it's simply better man for man. IMO.
 
Brwned said:
I think Gio has a better centre mid trio already come to think of it. Makelele in there's great and all but he'd still dominate the midfield, it's got plenty of balance and it's simply better man for man. IMO.
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Stankovic gets criticised for not performing to his peak often enough but you'd praise Veron more than him? The guy who had two decent seasons at Lazio and subsequently underwhelmed in England - it isn't as if he came over after his prime following a career of esteemed service overseas like Shevchenko, he was 26 when he arrived.
 
Team Brian GB said:
A few people were saying that about Seedorf as well though once you put them together and with Makelele you create a central midfield so dominating that nobody in this game could go toe to toe with or pass through.
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Nowhere near in the same class as Seedorf. I do rate him very highly and was my "problem" as I wanted all out of Pep, Seedorf and Luis Enrique along with Zidane. I was mulling over risking Pep for another round as he had tactical implications (precisely when I was saying that about Makelele) but Seedorf + Luis Enrique would keep me fine and dandy.

Then you crushed me. And then when I recovered from that Rood crushed me again. :(

You'll probably have Vuc here soon enough.
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I know I'll get an earful, hehe.:lol:
 
1 Antohan: 1. ZIDANE 2. LUIS ENRIQUE 3. ZANETTI
2 DanNistelrooy: 1. RONALDO 2. LUCIO 3. CAFU
3 Rood: 1. RIVALDO 2. GUARDIOLA 3. R. CARLOS
4 TheReligion: 1. NESTA 2. PUYOL 3. RUI COSTA
5 Cal? 1. KEANE 2. BECKHAM 3. PIRES
6 Gio 1. DAVIDS 2. MENDIETA 3. VERON
7 Cling Bak 1. HENRY 2. RIQUELME 3. OVERMARS
8 Jayvin 1. VIEIRA 2. AYALA 3. F. DE BOER
9 kps88 1. SCHOLES 2. GATTUSO 3. CAMPBELL
10 Ralaks 1. NEDVED, 2. CANNAVARO 3. COCU
11 Cold Boy 1. STAM, 2. BALLACK 3. SHEVCHENKO
12 Zen 1. TOTTI, 2. THURAM 3. DECO
13 Crustanoid 1. RAÚL, 2. DEL PIERO, 3. VAN NISTELROOY 4. ALBERTINI
14 Brwned 1. PIRLO, 2. R.FERDINAND, 3. ZAMBROTTA 4. SHEARER
15 Team Brian 1. MAKELELE, 2. SEEDORF, 3. DROGBA 4. STANKOVIC
16 Snow 1. GIGGS, 2. FIGO, 3. LAMPARD, 4. PETIT
 
Veron was recently brilliant in Argentina, and even for the national side, was at time the one shining spot in a shower of shite when Maradona had no clue what he was doing.

His seasons in England weren't that far below those of Stankovics really, they were just insanely below those of a £30m signing for Man Utd, who were more under the score than Inter have ever been.
 
Best goalie in the 4th round when goalies are slim as hell from the 70's? Um yes plz.

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1 Antohan: 1. ZIDANE 2. LUIS ENRIQUE 3. ZANETTI
2 DanNistelrooy: 1. RONALDO 2. LUCIO 3. CAFU
3 Rood: 1. RIVALDO 2. GUARDIOLA 3. R. CARLOS
4 TheReligion: 1. NESTA 2. PUYOL 3. RUI COSTA
5 Cal? 1. KEANE 2. BECKHAM 3. PIRES
6 Gio 1. DAVIDS 2. MENDIETA 3. VERON
7 Cling Bak 1. HENRY 2. RIQUELME 3. OVERMARS
8 Jayvin 1. VIEIRA 2. AYALA 3. F. DE BOER
9 kps88 1. SCHOLES 2. GATTUSO 3. CAMPBELL
10 Ralaks 1. NEDVED, 2. CANNAVARO 3. COCU
11 Cold Boy 1. STAM, 2. BALLACK 3. SHEVCHENKO
12 Zen 1. TOTTI, 2. THURAM 3. DECO 4. BUFFON
13 Crustanoid 1. RAÚL, 2. DEL PIERO, 3. VAN NISTELROOY 4. ALBERTINI
14 Brwned 1. PIRLO, 2. R.FERDINAND, 3. ZAMBROTTA 4. SHEARER
15 Team Brian 1. MAKELELE, 2. SEEDORF, 3. DROGBA 4. STANKOVIC
16 Snow 1. GIGGS, 2. FIGO, 3. LAMPARD, 4. PETIT
 
Snow said:
Was immense in the CL. That's his prime and that's what he should be judged for. I imagine that's the reason for this pick.
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Indeed he was, I'm no Mourinho though. It was Mourinho getting the best out of him, then he went back to his former non-plussing occasional screamer self.
 
Brwned said:
I think Gio has a better centre mid trio already come to think of it. Makelele in there's great and all but he'd still dominate the midfield, it's got plenty of balance and it's simply better man for man. IMO.
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Agreed, Gio's midfield is insanely :drool:
 
Team Brian GB said:
Stankovic gets criticised for not performing to his peak often enough but you'd praise Veron more than him? The guy who had two decent seasons at Lazio and subsequently underwhelmed in England - it isn't as if he came over after his prime following a career of esteemed service overseas like Shevchenko, he was 26 when he arrived.
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Veron was widely recognised as one of the very best midfielders in the world, as was Mendieta and Davids. Makelele was widely recognised as one of the best in his position as was Seedorf (although to a lesser extent than any of the other four) but I don't think Stankovic ever got close to that. It's not about how often he was at his peak I just don't think his peak was that high. I don't think Seedorf at his peak was as high as any of the other four midfielders either, although he'd slot into virtually any midfield and improve it. I don't think Veron's form in England is relevant at all, if a player's had just one season at a high level then yes it's a bit generous to judge them as that player, but 3 seasons is more than enough. I think most people in this draft would jump at the chance to take any one of Gio's midfielders, I don't think the same could be said about Stankovic good player that he was.
 
antohan said:
I was expecting Lampard to go on the loop, it was either TB or you as he was the sort of CM you had to be looking into.

That's a decent midfield four you've pulled off there.
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He needs a DM - Lampard in a 2-man field ....ugh
 
Crustanoid said:
He needs a DM - Lampard in a 2-man field ....ugh
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When Lampard and Makelele play together in a two man midfield often in 2003/4 it didn't work that well, it was functional but not stellar.

The following season when we went to a three man midfield with the arrival of Mourinho on the otherhand...
 
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