2024 UEFA Champions League final — Borussia Dortmund vs Real Madrid — Wembley, Sat 1 June 20:00 BST

Interesting how Carlo was 'finished' in 2021 at Everton on the Caf. Guy is still as good as ever. And still plays to win in any way possible.
 
¡ La decimoquinta ! Congratulations to Borussia fans on a very good final. It will be another time.
Who equals Gento? Carvajal,Nacho and Kroos?
Edit: Modric too of course
 
Early in the 2nd half, when RM were penned back and had no answers, they still kept their composure in DM and at the back.
Camavinga was their best player tonight, IMHO.
We talk about young Kobbie’s maturity and composure for his age.
Camavinga is in the same mould, but a few years older, more robust, mobile and much quicker.
He was the one running the show, not Bellingham.
 
The celebrations from the RM players is ridiculously subdued. They've won it so many times it feels like just another game. Giving me City vibes but I'll take it. Well run club, a team of world class players and a rich rich history. Truly the greatest ever football club.
 
Twice as many in the last 11 years as we've won in our entire existence. Bloody hell.

Yeah, but we didn't have a monopoly on TV rights allowing us to brute force our way into Europe every single season for almost two decades at the expense of the likes of Valencia, Betis, Deportivo and Atletico who couldn't build on their successes.

No one ever mentions this disparity and how important it has been for the Real machine to be an ever present fixture in the Champions League.
 
Kroos bowing out with his 6th CL in the pocket. Way to end your club career.
 
I don't buy this. Real were the CL champions at the time with legends of the game in that team already. Why would he ever have even considered joining us.
Kroos himself admitted it
 
@BenitoSTARR

And people were saying it was Ronaldo. It's Real Madrid and UCL. They don't have to be the best to win it; other teams do (apart from Chelsea).

Honestly, Bellingham has nothing in his game to suggest he is indispensable. I'd bench

Terrible choice. Devalues the award.
What an odd thing to do tonight?

Real Madrid have a team full of world class players with a world class set up around them in a league not as competitive as the PL.

They are amazing. Doesn’t mean we can compare to them. We’re nowhere close recently.
 
In an alternate timeline, Kroos comes here and wastes a few seasons of his career under Moyes, LVG and possibly Jose, meanwhile Real don't get him. Do Real win as much as they have done in the last decade without Kroos?

They'd have signed some other midfield stud and at some point Kroos would have been fed up with United's dysfunction and moved there anyhow.
 
He would be the worst winner ever.
if England are to win it all, it won't be thanks to Jude as there are other better players but France has no other choice other than Mbappe at his best to win
@BenitoSTARR

And people were saying it was Ronaldo. It's Real Madrid and UCL. They don't have to be the best to win it; other teams do (apart from Chelsea).

Honestly, Bellingham has nothing in his game to suggest he is indispensable. I'd bench

Terrible choice. Devalues the award.
Not saying he would deserve it but I can see it happening.
 
The weird thing is even as we basically didn't even show up for the first half, I never truly felt we could possibly not win this in the end

It really feels like just a Saturday right now :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Yeah, but we didn't have a monopoly on TV rights allowing us to brute force our way into Europe every single season for almost two decades at the expense of the likes of Valencia, Betis, Deportivo and Atletico who couldn't build on their successes.

No one ever mentions this disparity and how important it has been for the Real machine to be an ever present fixture in the Champions League.
By that logic, Barca, Bayern, and some of the other giants should be up there with them.

But no. They have more than twice as many titles as the next most successful club.
 
Just like Schweinsteiger, Kroos's brother is a massive United fan.