2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Barely qualified, but intensely loyal national intelligence director, AG (not as unqualified to be fair), DHS and sec def. I wonder what he could use that for...
The GOP only have a slender majority in the House, they lose these special elections they could lose control - not saying it'll happen - but the more House members Trump appoints the better the chance that the Dems can pick up some seats - a Dem house can block some of what Trump attempts to do - wishful thinking perhaps but I'm sure there's some Republicans are horrified at the thought of Gaetz being AG and a TV show host as Sec Def and will rebel or just not vote
The Dems should fire the large majority of their advisors apparently bc they're more out of touch than those on the other side. Hate or love her but people like AOC actually seem to get it. But that would require the Clintons and co to relinquish their control of the party.
Then again the article right above also shows there is a deeper issue that allows the Trumps of the world to amplify toxic masculinity. And I say that as a man. We don't need more frat boys. We need men who aren't self indulgent little cnuts.
Jennifer Palmieri was in the Hillary inner circle that lost in 2016. She should have become a hermit and been seen in public again.
Really? That is it? The whole story? Are you sure?
Equalish in development terms but girls tend to go through puberty earlier and males brains' are also effected differently by the flood of testosterone, which is why girls are a couple of years more mentally mature until boys/men catch up in their late teens or even early 20's. This is not caused by education.
Huh? Do you mean that there are more female teacher, particularly in primary schools?
What? I used to be a teacher and know lots of teachers, and this is nonsense.
WTF are you on about? Are you suggesting that it is bad thing to engage kids in sport for a variety of reasons? It is a great idea and complements education rather than the opposite. That last part of your sentence is outright weird.
Won't anyone think of the the neglected white males? White males still on average have huge advantages over others. The idea that white males are some discriminated against minority is outright nonsense.
They really don't. Not the sane ones who haven't drunk the Fox News/MAGA type coolaid.
Men have always been underrepresented in primary education, largely because it pays less plus the perception that it is a female occupation. No real change has occurred in my lifetime so it is irrelevant. And attracting good teacher who will stay will alwasy a challenge when we don't pay or value teacher properly.
More utter nonsense. Single sex schools almost ensures that idiotic, socially clueless and often toxic male behavior will occur. We all live together for life and kids of each sex need to interact and learn how to interact and socialise with each other. School is the perfect place for this to happen as education and the social aspects of life are equally important for all.
So men who spend lots of time alone, mainly with other men, and don't socialise or interact with women are a bigger problem? Maybe if they had gone to a coed school they would have more social skill?
The terms gender war and woke are idiotic, and designed to try to justify people's bigotry, or at least avoid calling it what it is.
Your whole post reads like a "woe is me. Women are victimising me and others".
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Great responses - I was just too lazy to type up this sort of postReally? That is it? The whole story? Are you sure?
Equalish in development terms but girls tend to go through puberty earlier and males brains' are also effected differently by the flood of testosterone, which is why girls are a couple of years more mentally mature until boys/men catch up in their late teens or even early 20's. This is not caused by education.
Huh? Do you mean that there are more female teacher, particularly in primary schools?
What? I used to be a teacher and know lots of teachers, and this is nonsense.
WTF are you on about? Are you suggesting that it is bad thing to engage kids in sport for a variety of reasons? It is a great idea and complements education rather than the opposite. That last part of your sentence is outright weird.
Won't anyone think of the the neglected white males? White males still on average have huge advantages over others. The idea that white males are some discriminated against minority is outright nonsense.
They really don't. Not the sane ones who haven't drunk the Fox News/MAGA type coolaid.
Men have always been underrepresented in primary education, largely because it pays less plus the perception that it is a female obligation. No real change has occurred in my lifetime so it is irrelevant. And attracting good teacher who will stay will alwasy a challenge when we don't pay or value teacher properly.
More utter nonsense. Single sex schools almost ensures that idiotic, socially clueless and often toxic male behavior will occur. We all live together for life and kids of each sex need to interact and learn how to interact and socialise with each other. School is the perfect place for this to happen as education and the social aspects of life are equally important for all.
So men who spend lots of time alone, mainly with other men, and don't socialise or interact with women are a bigger problem? Maybe if they had gone to a coed school they would have more social skill?
The terms gender war and woke are idiotic, and designed to try to justify people's bigotry, or at least avoid calling it what it is.
Your whole post reads like a "woe is me" women are victimising me and others.
Yep, the entire Obama/Hillary/Biden mafia need to go. In this case, Jen Palmieri is a Hillary staffer who was sobbing in live tv after Trump beat her. All of them need to be replaced.
I mean… Newton died a virgin, right?
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I've read about concerns regarding the voting machines. If that's true why isn't the democratic party demanding recounts. After 2020 you would think that a basic audit or recount would be standard.
Because it's a conspiracy theory and they know it, I've not seen anything about voting machines this time around, albeit I'm not on X ot any other social media where this carp is peddled so I wouldn't have likely seen it
There's a sub Reddit that's growing fast called Somethingiswrong2024, where they're trying hard to find hard evidence that this election has been stolen.
Myself, I don't like staying into conspiracy theories, however I can think of about a dozen reasons why something just seems very odd about the way he so quickly and effortlessly won while taking all swing states.
On the other hand, there are a few reasons to argue why the result was predictable & legitimate.
Basically, I just don't know, but I will say I was very concerned about Musk's involvement from the very start.
It's pretty simple why he won
Trump's total vote number were down slightly from 2020, around a million or so
Harris's total number of votes was down compared to Biden's 2020 numbers by more than 10 million
The simple truth is that Trump maintained his vote numbers and 10 million odd people who voted for Biden in 2020 didn't vote in 2024
It's entirely possible (very likely, even) that many of the people who did not vote for Biden in 2020 simply voted for Trump this time.
I think some could be overestimating the young people turning to the right
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Twitter has always been the nerdiest form of social media, those graphs aren't that surprising I suppose.
Makes sense that people vote right, considering the fact that YT is a right-wing hellhole, and has been for years.
Left-wing channels exists, but they don't make much noise, let alone compete.
I can attest to this. I spend way too much time on YT as i find a lot of stuff I enjoy on there but I'm constantly bombarded by more right-wing suggested videos than anything else.
It looks like the massive crackdown om Campuses’ anti-genocide protesters didn’t help the Dems.
Perhaps at some point you've watched a few, I also spend a lot of time on YT and have never come across these suggestions, probably because I've never watched one, I have watched a few of the channels that openly riducule MAGA so I gtt suggestions for similar videos
Think the problem is that there is far more active far right content out there that it takes a while to "break" the algorithm. I have noticed the same thing as him before until I started subscribing and liking and briefly watching so many progressive channels it seems to finally break in the other direction. I don't intend to watch all those channels but at least it keeps some of the crazy shit out of my list of recommendations.
I guess the lesson to be learned is to never click on one in the first place
What a fecking shit response. You do not defeat the far-right by pivoting to the centre, adopting their rhetoric, and trying to play the higher ground. Good grief.
Before this election I would have totally agreed with you..after this election I've become to seriously doubt that strategy. Yes - a lot of it is amplified by then right to make it seem like the left is completely unhinged which is obviously all sorts of fecked up. However, the rise of right wing populism in other Western nations as well means to me that at least on the surface the messaging has to be more restrained. Use their strategy in a way and push harder to the progressive side once you have the power.
I still haven't seen enough to believe most people honestly are that concerned all that much about LGBTQ, etc. - the data appears to support the majority has become more open minded when the issues are being presented to them in an isolated fashion by means of ballot proposals. But the way the left has opened the door for being portrayed as pushing it to the extreme is a bit of a self inflicted wound.
They’re moving right because of economics and Trump. Those who protested weren’t likely reliable Dem voters anyway.
We can expect a lot more of this from MSNBC over the next few years. It is after all their main way to draw ratings.
Poor lil Destiny vs the vast majority of US news media, radio, podcast, twitter and the Russian troll farms.
Its a bit of a stacked deck, I chuckle when anyone says Dems are "bad at messaging". Well... until they start playing the same game the GOP does, putting everything into buying out every media platform they can get their hands on, they always will be.
The sheer fact that Trump was the candidate most considered strong on the economy, well after he started talking about tariffs, is utterly fecking mental. Propaganda works, always has.
Yeh i dont' remember the last time I had anything right-wing in my YT feed and i'm always on it.
Are we absolutely sure the answer to extremism isn't extremism though? Fight fire with fire, etc? Because America seems to be out of any other fecking option.
Name calling doesn’t work for Dems. It does work more for Rs because their audience is less prone to civility.
That's exactly it. Dems just alienate a part of their voters by name calling while republicans don't care about their people being called names anyway.
R's have effectively defeated truth. Matt Gaetz can sell women live on TV. It's just fake news to them.
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Woohoo! More Rachel Maddow nothing burger reveals!