The vibes election is in full effect
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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This, along with the border, are the two main selling points for republicans, if they can't even win on the economy, its not looking good for them.
Worth cautioning here that it’s very likely an outlier. Trump usually leads on the economy by 8-10 points so 3 weeks of vibes probably aren’t enough to make up that gap.
Speaking of polls: lots of blue on average in swing states:
https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/
https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/
I think this is like the third poll in the last week or so, that shows a close race on the economy, so maybe it isn't an outlier.
Being devils advocate. What proof there is about the couch, and if there is none, why both things cant equate? The thing is that everybody on the D camp merrily accepted the couch story no questions ask (if internet says it is true) and so the R camp might accept what they are doing with walz
You can sort of imagine an "american pie" type situation happening to a frisky, lonely, experimenting teenager. You can't really imagine the same person guzzling a litre of horse jizz.
Anyway I think it was in a first draft*of Hillbilly elegy that got leaked. It didn't actually make it to the bookshop shelf
*This is a complete lie
The couch thing, while obviously untrue, lies between the border of absurdity and something that would fit into what Vance describes the community like in Hillbilly Elegy. This new attack on Walz is just gross, homophobic and doesn't even really link to something about Walz' character. The couch story also originated organically, while this is deeply desperate.
Also, no-one ever truly believed the couch story for more than maybe five minutes. It's just a meme. But I agree in principle that if the right could have come up with something clever, it would have been the same. They just can't.
You decide what you want to imagine. Specially depending how politically you lean. A MAGAloon will decide what to imagine. I personally dont believe neither
Not that Vance needs the couch story to see that is a deplorable man anyway and that Walz, so far, seems as decent you can get at top politics level
Again. The memes are there for both, so certainly there is political bias. The magaloons im sure they find it hilarious
Like Ubik said, it's missing the point.
The JD Vance couch story is "funny" because it plays into the idea that he's a bit of a loser, and that Republicans who are so concerned about sex usually have weird hangups.
The Walz thing isn't really playing into anything. It's incoherent. It's a 'Cards Against Humanity' level joke and more likely to be considered 'distasteful.'
I am not sure about that particular station, but most major markets have the 4 main networks (ABC,CBS,NBC,FOX) who each have their own news divisions. In my experience the local news teams (unless the station is owned by Sinclair) are pretty down the middle, while the reporters themselves may lean either way.
As for why the candidates would go on those stations to debate? Well, again from my experience, there is usually one station in each market that is the most trusted/viewed station for local news, so maybe that is the case here.
Yeah, I guess I'm just describing why it won't be successful. I'm sure the couch thing reached people that don't really follow politics that closely, and it helped in defining Vance in the days after he became the VP pick. The MAGA world can have at it with their disgusting memes all they like, of course, but it won't reach the mainstream.
Hey, me and J.D. Vance agree on something. This seems like a first though. Normally they'd tip-toe around something like that, and Trump has even had dinner with him. Interesting how this goes.
The odds of Fuentes getting anywhere close to even Marjorie Taylor-Greene these days is minimal!
He's completely done. From what I heard around that time the Trump meal with him was due to incompetence by the way, Trump held a lunch meeting with Kanye West (just before he announced he was running for president again) and Milo Yiannopoulis who became Ye's campaign manager, apparently snuck him in there.
Christ, what a way to ruin good food to be in that kind of company
If it was Trump's dinner it was probably cremated steak and ketchup.The odds of Fuentes getting anywhere close to even Marjorie Taylor-Greene these days is minimal!
He's completely done. From what I heard around that time the Trump meal with him was due to incompetence by the way, Trump held a lunch meeting with Kanye West (just before he announced he was running for president again) and Milo Yiannopoulis who became Ye's campaign manager, apparently snuck him in there.
Christ, what a way to ruin good food to be in that kind of company
I'd forgotten about that
Has Walz ever claimed that he's some decorated war hero? This is such a weird line of attack for me, especially considering Vance also served in the military as a......journalist.
It's so weak. Essentially just one veteran going after another, which is a bad look.
This stuff is par for the course when one works for Donald Trump.
Let Vance go. If I was the democrats I would just dig dirt on his military career and leak it quietly to the press. Considering he fecked a couch, he must have done something stupid and embarrassing in the army.
He didn't feck a couch.
Do you think that all the R sexism, homofobia and racism is less distateful? They play to its base, nothing else. Again, is political leaning and humor differences, nothing more. Both lies, both sex jokes and the point missing is him thinking that they are better on a sex joke when he should be speaking about policies
And again, Vance and Walz doesnt need a second grade joke comoetition to see which is better
Vance can keep doing all the interviews he wants. He still sounds dumb as hell in them. And the taunting of Kamala/Waltz is desperate "please we need them to say or do something that we can spin" to halt their momentum.
Same with Trump
Same with Trump
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We don't have evidence that he did, not the same as he didn't.
Hopefully, this fantasy some dems have of flipping Florida comes to an end, this isn't 2012 anymore, and they don't need the state anyway.
But perhaps @wr8_utd did?
Is this because of boomers moving to Florida or have Florida Reps outplayed the Dems?
Posted a few days ago. His name calling polemics aside, he’s generally more accurate than not when describing the Dem party of the present.
Probably both, from what i've gathered, the national dem party in Florida is something of a joke as well.
The disparity is because MAGA has gradually become more entrenched throughout the red parts of the state, and more importantly because Trump has solidified Republican votes in the state's three biggest Dem counties of Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach , particularly among Dade Cubans who although historically Republican, had been drifting more Dem due to a new generation of Cubans with different attitudes coming up. Trump appears to have turned that back around. More broadly, he out performed himself in each of the three counties from 2016 to 2020 and will probably very well again in them this time.
He has good and bad moments.
Finkelstein is great.
Trump has to have a Grifting Czar...
It's always projection / confession with this lot...