Clearly a sizeable number of non MAGA people don't give a feck either.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Probably Kelly or Walz. I think Shapiro won't be it.
Right up until it started enacting the measures laid out in Project2025. Right now they believe the bad things will only come for their “enemies”, but just wait till Social Security is stripped, Medicare is defunded, and federal dollars propping up red states disappear.
Hoping it's Walz, Kelly is fine, but he is kind of an uninspiring speaker tbh, and Walz has an excellent record when it comes to labor-related issues.
Electorally, should be Shapiro, then Kelly
Andy Beshear would have been an excellent choice imo.
Walz is the best talker out of all of them, which counts for a lot. Plus he comes across as a docile, obedient grandpa who wouldn't upstage Harris in anyway. Whereas the likes of Shapiro would definitely leave people scratching their heads as to why he isn't the Presidential candidate.
Another vote for Walz here. Much more affable and relatable character than the others (from what I've seen). Good mid-west governor, solid track record - like Raoul says has the gift of the gab.
I'd have Buttigieg as my second. Have a feeling Shapiro will be a bit of a divisive choice.
I'd have Buttigieg as my second. Have a feeling Shapiro will be a bit of a divisive choice.
Trump-Vance 2024
Seen a couple of interviews with him, seems really likeable as well as a good talker.
"Affable" is a fantastic word btw!
Surprised Beshear is not on the list. Twice elected in a red state, a good talker and likeable but with a bite. Seems like an obvious choice.
It’s Trump’s fault for selecting a VP based on the recommendation of his coke head son.
Vance called Trump Hitler, now he is doing his patriotic duty to sabotage the election to prevent him from getting power - would be an interesting reality to live in.
Yeah, looks like it was a very narrow circle that decided on Vance, rather than extensive consideration of stuff like which voter profiles Trump wasn't convincing for. All this crap just serves to consolidate a base that was already all-in anyway.
Inside job!
"No, I swear they're 18, Donnie!"
Shapiro would be a divisive choice given his pro Israel leaning.
Beshear, Kelly and Walz are all dependable choices.
Probably a bit too exotic, but Whitmer would have been a good choice too. All women ticket!
Beshear, Kelly and Walz are all dependable choices.
Probably a bit too exotic, but Whitmer would have been a good choice too. All women ticket!
They're all going to be pro-Israel. The only reason Shapiro is being scrutinized is because he himself is Jewish, and that might be a bridge to far to have a POTUS with both Jewish husband and VP. At the end of the day it won't affect policy since all Dems are going to be pro-Israel.
I think he has been the most vocal about this issue of the lot. Probably as you say, will get the most flak too.
Agree that the others would be better choices.
I don't think Schumer would be happy opening up the AZ Senate seat. So it's likely to be Walz (or Beshear if he's still in the mix)
I'm liking Walz more each day. Seems like a pretty grounded guy who tells it as it is.
Momentum seems to grow for Walz too.
That's a really good point, @Raoul ! It's why everyone opposed to him would also oppose a potential VP Bernie. And why they are also pouring this scorn on JB Pritzker. It couldn't possibly be him comparing student protestors to the KKK and signing a bill punishing colleges from divesting from Israel. Or the contrast between his statements and, say, Walz's approach to the uncommitted vote in the primary.
My preferences given my reading of the situation (and what I’m hearing):
1. Walz~ Beshear> Kelly
2. Shapiro
1. Walz~ Beshear> Kelly
2. Shapiro
this dude will legit n-word somebody by the end of the campaign. Has to be a grand wizard or whatever that shit the triple K had as a rank.He's such a trainwreck of a VP pick.
His contempt for his fans produces so many great moments.
Walz, Kelly and then Shapiro out of those 3.
Trump must be fuming at this point. Vance is terrible in front of the camera and seems to have been relegated to right wing channels for fear he would be humiliated by proper journos.
Now this is an instance of Trump being funny. His contempt for his voters.
Did Vance say “White Supremacists”???
The end is near, folks!
The end is near, folks!
Did he give peach folio a shout out?
So the strategy is now, ha! JD Vance says weird contradictory things!
Surely at some point the democrats will realise that the republican cult simply doesn't care? They'll just say nuh-uh and move on.
Surely at some point the democrats will realise that the republican cult simply doesn't care? They'll just say nuh-uh and move on.
You never go full MAGA, surely every opportunist knows this.
I don't have any words to describe how pathetic Vance is.
"I am without speech" - Jerry Seinfeld
It's more for swing voters / independents.
Since Trump is 300 years old it's good to remind people his VP has said a bunch of ultra-conservative and weird things.
He needs these voters, so he's gotta be careful about his tone.What a pathetic, cowardly beta