Pscholes18
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Hilarious.
Oh it's moved on to him wanting to feck dolphins, man.
A day is a long time in politics
Its not. All of that is cringe as hell.Is it any different to footballers taking a staged call from their new manager? Or when getting a call telling them they have been picked for their national team?
Could be interpreted a lot of ways, but given all his other authoritarian comments - probably should be causing alarm. Not that it will in any way cost him any voters.
He keeps telling everyone the plan, like a bond villain, and people keep ignoring it. It is quite extraordinary.
It's not even news, its a 'skit' for goodness sake, a take on how Obama held back on his support!Don't put words into quotes that he didn't say.
Fake News.
You weirdo.
It's not even my dumbest take of today
So you think the increased emphasis on popularity and looking appealing has done well for world politics? Policy has become almost entirely irrelevant in elections. You can defraud the entire working class, but put a few soundbites on Twitter with a picture of you holding a pickaxe and people will lap it up. People are being elected for the wrong reasons, because the only goal is to get as many votes as possible from whomever possible.
Obviously politicians shouldn't actively disuade people from voting, but I think if only people who cared about actual politics voted, the world would be a better place. If it's just one side doing it, it's obviously moot, since that side will just lose. Putting some sort of restrictions on voting, ike only white heterosexual male landowner as the founding fathers thought prudent, is also wrong for obvious reasons so that just leaves this. I'm also somehow wording this as if populism is new, it's not obviously.
My son is 14 in 8 years, if he says stuff like this I'd be kind of proud by the way.
Come to think of it, "Politicians should stop getting people without interest in politics to vote." is perhaps poorly worded. Politicians should stop seeing the accumulation of votes as their end goal maybe?
Politicians should stop getting people without interest in politics to vote. They know feck all about what they're voting for anyway. Might as well just try and have just the people who really care about it vote.
It's not even news, its a 'skit' for goodness sake, a take on how Obama held back on his support!
Don't know about me being a weirdo, you seem like a bit of a dumbo.
But have nice day!
People who "really care" about politics are among the most insane groups of voters. Lower turnout elections don't lead to more rational or objective results (whatever that would even mean), but to insane reactionary bullshit.So you think the increased emphasis on popularity and looking appealing has done well for world politics? Policy has become almost entirely irrelevant in elections. You can defraud the entire working class, but put a few soundbites on Twitter with a picture of you holding a pickaxe and people will lap it up. People are being elected for the wrong reasons, because the only goal is to get as many votes as possible from whomever possible.
Obviously politicians shouldn't actively disuade people from voting, but I think if only people who cared about actual politics voted, the world would be a better place. If it's just one side doing it, it's obviously moot, since that side will just lose. Putting some sort of restrictions on voting, ike only white heterosexual male landowner as the founding fathers thought prudent, is also wrong for obvious reasons so that just leaves this. I'm also somehow wording this as if populism is new, it's not obviously.
People who "really care" about politics are among the most insane groups of voters. Lower turnout elections don't lead to more rational or objective results (whatever that would even mean), but to insane reactionary bullshit.
Yeah far more likely the fascist doesn't want to implement fascism you say?Bizarre.
Could imply that he plans to implement an autocracy.
But more likely he just wants them out to vote for him because in 4 years time, he doesn't give a feck who wins, as he doesn't really care about the Republican party or the country .
Unless he loses and runs again in 2028. Which you know he will if he loses.
It's not that he doesn't want, but more that he wouldn't say it out loud.Yeah far more likely the fascist doesn't want to implement fascism you say?
He always says it out loud.It's not that he doesn't want, but more that he wouldn't say it out loud.
Yeah let’s give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, it’s the least he deserves.Bizarre.
Could imply that he plans to implement an autocracy.
But more likely he just wants them out to vote for him because in 4 years time, he doesn't give a feck who wins, as he doesn't really care about the Republican party or the country .
Unless he loses and runs again in 2028. Which you know he will if he loses.
You are of course right, and no, I don't think there should be some sort of test, or barrier to entry (as I said in my follow up) it was more me lamenting the cynical nature of modern politics and wording it poorly, rather than trying to come up with a realistic solution.Unless im missing something, the way to win an elections is to get as many voters as possible.
You don't get extra points for a voter who is "politically engaged" or has a tighter grip on the issues.
Your statement "but I think if only people who cared about actual politics voted, the world would be a better place. " is bizarre too.
You think it would be better to somehow test people first to see who "cares more" ?
And what does care more mean? There are Trump people who build their whole identity around supporting him. They care. But are they really educated on his policies and the consequences of such ? Do you want people to care, or be educated on policy in your utopian system ?
To say....
... is ridiculous. It is like saying that the only people that should watch football are those who understand the intricacies of tactics and have encyclopedic knowledge of each and every player, team and manager.
I think you give people less credit than they deserve. Do people know every line in each parties platform? No, and to be honest, nor do I. But people have a good sense of what each party and leader stand for and they vote accordingly. And maybe some vote against their own interests because the candidate makes them "feel good" - as Trump does for his supporters.
And of all things in this election to get triggered about, you chose a pretty harmless, run of the mill, endorsement video from Obama and Harris.
Democracy is not a perfect, but it is the best system we have.
Care wasnt the right word. What I was trying to say is that politicians are only doing things to become popular instead of doing things to improve society.People who "really care" about politics are among the most insane groups of voters. Lower turnout elections don't lead to more rational or objective results (whatever that would even mean), but to insane reactionary bullshit.
Bizarre.
Could imply that he plans to implement an autocracy.
But more likely he just wants them out to vote for him because in 4 years time, he doesn't give a feck who wins, as he doesn't really care about the Republican party or the country .
Unless he loses and runs again in 2028. Which you know he will if he loses.
I mostly agree, it's just that arguing about lowering turnout being a good thing is a bit of a pet peeve for me :PCare wasnt the right word. What I was trying to say is that politicians are only doing things to become popular instead of doing things to improve society.
Policy has become a distant second to looking good on Twitter. I get that getting everyone to vote for you regardless of how is how you win an election, but it would be super awesome if politicians also had an inkling on how to function after actually being elected.
Hell, I'm not sure what I was getting at anyway.
I'll just take the L
The MAGA base would be perfectly fine with a Trump dictatorship.Can we safely say that a large portion of Americans are perfectly okay with having a dictator? Because how is this cretin still ahead in the polls.