It goes to show it will be the Project 25 guys running the country if he wins not him.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/harr...3da6456e364/liveblog_67110899e4b0e33eefb1fb2d
Trump just pulled out of another interview with NBC. He's falling apart before our eyes and a bigger deal should be made of it. Dems shouldn't push the 'unhinged and unstable' line they are pushing, it should be 'impotent and incapable', which undercuts his strong man image.
As many were concerned, in July, Harris is a "meh" candidate.
IMO, many independents would have easily voted for Dems. with a more convincing candidate, now it's a toss-up and could go either way, that if the polls are right.
I think most people just have this impression that ‘anybody half decent would smoke Trump’ from their liberal bubble, conveniently ignoring that Democrats have an incumbent that is double digits underwater in favourables and 60% of the country think it’s heading in the wrong direction. This is a tougher environment than 12/16 yet people somehow think it’s 18/20 when fundamentals favor Dems.She’s a fine candidate. This narrative from people who just want to be proven right is tiresome. She’s run a good campaign, made no significant mistakes, and done what could be asked of her, and she has presented herself as an alternative to Trump that should appeal to most normal people. If she doesn’t win because of her skin colour or gender, or because too many Americans live in a parallel universe, it won’t be her fault.
She’s a fine candidate. This narrative from people who just want to be proven right is tiresome. She’s run a good campaign, made no significant mistakes, and done what could be asked of her, and she has presented herself as an alternative to Trump that should appeal to most normal people. If she doesn’t win because of her skin colour or gender, or because too many Americans live in a parallel universe, it won’t be her fault.
Yep and the sunbelt looks locked down for Trump so it's a worry.
She’s a fine candidate. This narrative from people who just want to be proven right is tiresome. She’s run a good campaign, made no significant mistakes, and done what could be asked of her, and she has presented herself as an alternative to Trump that should appeal to most normal people. If she doesn’t win because of her skin colour or gender, or because too many Americans live in a parallel universe, it won’t be her fault.
Possibly not, but not sure how that's relevant.Do you think she would have won in an open primary?
Absolutely. Biden’s selfishness and lack of awareness will be the main culprit if Democrats lose this.I agree, if she doesn't win, the blame she deserves is minimal, in my opinion.
Biden deserves more for trying to run again instead of dems having a primary, but more than that the people deserve blame, if people just makes up excuses for voting Trump at this point, they are just gone, and could never be reasoned with anyway.
There a couple in this very thread.Possibly not, but not sure how that's relevant.
I struggle to understand a potential democratic voter - in this election - who says: Well I would have voted for a different democratic nominee, but Harris is so bad that instead I prefer to help Trump win.
It's Biden (and his advisors/friends) fault that we didn't get a primary. Not Harris'.
It's not news, and they don't care. Russian state TV commentators literally said Tucker was doing it so obsequiously he needed to rein it in.
Starting to pick up steam now, give him the Sleepy Joe’s treatment.
But mail in ballots at this point in time doesn’t prove or show anything?R closed the return edge by a further 0.4% today but D netted 23k votes to their lead, both sides can spin it as a positive but looking pretty stable in PA so far
We can’t know who wins off VBM but we can know who’s likely to lose, let’s put it that way.But mail in ballots at this point in time doesn’t prove or show anything?
Starting to pick up steam now, give him the Sleepy Joe’s treatment.
Thank you (and others) for the input on NC.The counties that are most educated (Durham, Orange, Wake, Mecklenburg) all vote pretty heavily for Dems. The issue for NC is that the influx of younger people to the Triangle and Charlotte is offset by the older people moving to NC to retire in places like Union and Brunswick counties. Since fewer people are moving to the Triad (the third major metropolitan area in NC made up of Greensboro, High Point, and Winston-Salem), it's a more conservative area that still leans Dem.
That’s like saying we can’t know who wins off In person voting but we can know who’s likely to lose. Same thing.We can’t know who wins off VBM but we can know who’s likely to lose, let’s put it that way.
I don’t really get this attitude, 20 days are an eternity in the digital age. While most voters mind are decided, the remaining thin slice of fence sitters going to the polls thinking about his frailty can be the decisive factor in a race as close as this, especially in states with same day registration like Wisconsin.Good, but too late I feel. There's been way too little focus on Trump's age and mental acuity I think.
It’s not the same thing at all, because we have plenty of knowledge based on past elections on the partisan voting patterns. If R start not only cutting into the return edge but matching D VBM raw votes, it’s very likely that there’s an enthusiasm/turn out issue with D, given the disparity in requests.That’s like saying we can’t know who wins off In person voting but we can know who’s likely to lose. Same thing.
Possibly not, but not sure how that's relevant.
I struggle to understand a potential democratic voter - in this election - who says: Well I would have voted for a different democratic nominee, but Harris is so bad that instead I prefer to help Trump win.
It's Biden (and his advisors/friends) fault that we didn't get a primary. Not Harris'.
I don’t really get this attitude, 20 days are an eternity in the digital age. While most voters mind are decided, the remaining thin slice of fence sitters going to the polls thinking about his frailty can be the decisive factor in a race as close as this, especially in states with same day registration like Wisconsin.
She’s a fine candidate. This narrative from people who just want to be proven right is tiresome. She’s run a good campaign, made no significant mistakes, and done what could be asked of her, and she has presented herself as an alternative to Trump that should appeal to most normal people. If she doesn’t win because of her skin colour or gender, or because too many Americans live in a parallel universe, it won’t be her fault.
Couldn't throw 'em a bone huh.
She’s a fine candidate. This narrative from people who just want to be proven right is tiresome. She’s run a good campaign, made no significant mistakes, and done what could be asked of her, and she has presented herself as an alternative to Trump that should appeal to most normal people. If she doesn’t win because of her skin colour or gender, or because too many Americans live in a parallel universe, it won’t be her fault.
I don’t think anything we’ve seen these past few months suggests she wouldn’t have had a chance but no, she wouldn’t have been my favourite. That’s not the scenario we got, though, and given the circumstances I think the Dems played the best hand they had. Harris showed political nimbleness and maneuvering to shore up the party’s support (something that’s also part of being a good candidate) and has since run a solid campaign without any screw-ups along the way.Do you think she would have won in an open primary?
Also: the last time that an all-white ticket won the election for the Democrats… 1996.The elephant in the room in an open primary is, of course, the risk of alienating black voters by casting her aside. It's one thing letting her bomb out in 2019 as a lightweight first term Senator from California, when the modus operandi was 'whoever with the most chance of beating Trump', abandoning the black woman VP in favour of most likely a white man would be a fraught decision for the party.
That's why, I suspect, we didn't see any prominent Dem publicly challenge Biden or even so much as floating the idea, best case scenario he wins, worst case scenario they position themselves for a 28 run, and that's also why they quickly coalesced behind Harris, because frankly running as the Democratic candidate when the incumbent Democratic president has 55% unfavourable approval rating is a poisoned chalice.
Couldn't throw 'em a bone huh.
The elephant in the room in an open primary is, of course, the risk of alienating black voters by casting her aside. It's one thing letting her bomb out in 2019 as a lightweight first term Senator from California, when the modus operandi was 'whoever with the most chance of beating Trump', abandoning the black woman VP in favour of most likely a white man would be a fraught decision for the party.
That's why, I suspect, we didn't see any prominent Dem publicly challenge Biden or even so much as floating the idea, best case scenario he wins, worst case scenario they position themselves for a 28 run, and that's also why they quickly coalesced behind Harris, because frankly running as the Democratic candidate when the incumbent Democratic president has 55% unfavourable approval rating is a poisoned chalice.
Well that's the world utterly fecked then.Silver seems pretty confident that the election is trending in Trump's direction.
It's not over yet but yeah I'm worried. Biden fecked up by not dropping out of the race earlier, he takes a sizeable chunk of blame if Trump wins.Well that's the world utterly fecked then.
This. 100% this.Not panicking at all, until i see bad numbers from the rustbelt states, all the early signs are promising so far.
