The 'I look down on peasants' moment captured on film, unintentionally. These things are so forced. "How long have you been here?" is such a "I don't have anything to say to you peasants."
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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The 'I look down on peasants' moment captured on film, unintentionally. These things are so forced. "How long have you been here?" is such a "I don't have anything to say to you peasants."
Yes, I expect that, too. But I don't think this transition will be an easy one. They indoctrined a significant part of their voter base and personally I think the whole MAGA crowds are conditioned in a way that it will be difficult to mobilize them with "traditional" campaigns - even less so when the opportunists will continue telling those people what they want to hear because they smell the chance to take Trump's place. On the other hand, continuing what Trump started might turn out to not be suitable to gain a majority. The Republicans maneuvered themselves into this dilemma and I think even if they draw the right conclusions from it, it will take a long while until they have sorted this out.
Plus, even if they manage to stay relevant by abandoning these ultra right wing positions, it means that they are far less dangerous than right now. I definitely prefer somebody like Bush in the oval office to a lunatic and ticking timebomb like Trump.
Sort of? He did start a couple of wars that ended up directly or indirectly killing a few million people. Trump has done less damage, at least right up until the moment he goes full crypto-fascist. If he's left with one term, Bush was the worse president (in the "did the most bad" sense, not the least competent sense). If Trump gets a second term...
She absolutely killed the argument on Israel and Palestine. Whoever wrote that part of the speech deserves a brown paper bag of money, a gram of coke and a hooker
if anyone had any doubts about the democrat supporters lack of empathy for palestinian suffering....
Totally agree. For whatever reason, she was pushed aside under Biden. I think we all thought that it would be more of a partnership, where he handed over the reigns to her, but it didnt seem to happen in that way. Certainly not in the first couple of years. Some snippets seem to be coming out to suggest she has been more active in the last year - maybe that is because of Bidens decline?
I always thought that those polls that suggested she was unpopular always tallied with Bidens favorability. She just had to get out from under him.
I think the big difference with her now and in her run in 2020, was she was running to the left in 2020 and I don't think it quite fit with her bio and who she is. She seems more at home being a centrist Democrat - the prosecutor who fights for the middle class, for unions and for social issues. She showed a lot of foreign policy knowledge too.
I think she is best placed to build the coalition to beat Trump. She is the only one that could take him on in GA, NV, AZ, while also being able to hold the blue wall.
She did great. Walked the line really well.
Hate to say it, but will it be nullified by the RFK announcement today?
If he endorses Trump, it gives them license to say, "Todays Democrats are no longer the party of JFK" etc etc.
unless im missing something, she said nothing new. the same things that are being said over here by labour. hostages / ceasefire / 2 state solution.
problem is that messaging hasnt changed since last year, wheras the carnage has continued.
if she was being bold, she wouldve re-iterated their support for Israel but put a clear line between the dems and the regime of bibi and his jewish fanatics.
Don't think so, it's just not as big an issue to knock the convention from its high right now. Might get a mention buried somewhere in the broadcasts.
I only go there if absolutely necessary! Maybe to the Target. But we are getting one in Pinehurst soon.
I disagree. I think RFK will get more exposure from this announcement that he would from anything else he has done in his campaign so far - including the bear carcass!
Trump will squeeze every last drop out of it.
You think they will give him the Health Secretary position?
Right, we shouldn’t be overconfident, but Jonathan Lemire is annoying. Suddenly he’s coming up with this tweet?!! The morning after Harris’s speech?
Maybe, but im not sure how they helps any potential peace deal.
If the objective is a ceasfire, especially in the near term, then its important not to put anyone nose out of joint.
I don’t agree with this. I think they’re accurate but they’re trying to avoid over confidence
What's wrong with taking a sober look at the numbers? Harris seems to be generating a lot of positive energy, which is good, but it's honestly better to be overly cautious and keep the eye on the ball. They can't get complacent.
I agree, and I talked about this during the week. But, to tweet this a before 7:30 am the morning after the acceptance speech? Didn’t he know this yesterday? Can’t he just let us a bit more about the speech for few more hours before this tweet? C’mon, he’s like Shreeves…
I mean the guy is not some all powerful being that determines the narrative on his own. It's just one tweet.
It will be quoted left and right. Indeed, it even made it to Red Cafe in the middle of discussions about the convention. Geofff Shreeves all over again.
He could’ve waited until the afternoon and that wouldn’t matter a bit. Right? This is not “BREAKING NEWS”… annoying attitude.
A really really odd interaction, especially considering, unlike Sunak for instance, he is supposed to have grown up at least in exactly these kinds of environments.
Too much time spent with silicon valley VC/tech bros clearly.
The Trump campaign peaked too early with the assassination and all and then Biden dropped out and it changed the momentum.
Now, with the DNC over, it's still about 2 months before the election and Harris has to be careful about maintaining her momentum.
Now, with the DNC over, it's still about 2 months before the election and Harris has to be careful about maintaining her momentum.
They made such a bad call with this guy
“I’m JD Vance, I’m running for Vice President.”
“Okay.”
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Exactly what I said a couple days ago - Klein was referencing them on Tuesday. Lots of work to do, but much better than 6 weeks ago.
I am trying to understand what these right-wing idiots who snuck into the DNC in disguises etc. were doing. Just saw the clip of the "My Pillow" fraud Mike Lindell arguing with a 12 year old influencer. I mean these people are crazy. Instead of worrying about how he drove his company into the ground to bury his face up trumps rump he's yelling at little kids about conspiracies.
Lindell shaved his mustache for a couple of bucks and then got burned by a 12 yr old kid.
From what I gathered, the speech had a good dose of racism, war-mongering, and misinformation. So not different from Biden which is expected.
Agree with this. She attempted to assuage the concerns of both sides without really saying anything substantive that would be a significant departure from Biden’s policy.
Yes, it was a bit too heavy on entertainment and light on substance. Hopefully the latter comes out more in the coming weeks and months.
They made such a bad call with this guy
“I’m JD Vance, I’m running for Vice President.”
“Okay.”
It is like an scene from The Office. Cringe.
Lindell shaved his mustache for a couple of bucks and then got burned by a 12 yr old kid.
The kid destroyed him. He said "So your source is 'Trust me, bro!?".
RFK Jr is a kook, and a dangerous kook at that. His campaign was propped up by his VP’s cash infusion and GOP strategists, and little else.
Still to come: Beyoncé and Taylor Swift barnstorming voter drive support tours!
Where did you gather any of that? What parts of her speech were racist or warmongering? What was misinformation?
But the UK version.
Does this encompass all believers of any religion, or only Christians?
Ah shit here we go again
It’s so odd.
“What are your most popular flavours?”
“One glazed dozen and a mixed dozen of your choice”
Any kind of normal opener.
He’s a weird little Fcuk.
It was looking pretty bleak with Biden, i will admit that, but going back to something i've said earlier, its worth mentioning that the GOP hasn't had a single good election after 2016, not one.
They are not really that strong as a national party these days, dems don't have to be perfect in order to defeat them.
They are not really that strong as a national party these days, dems don't have to be perfect in order to defeat them.
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They didn't want someone who would make Trump look bad. So they had to choose someone who cannot even do a PR stunt right.